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Thoguh posted:Plus with testing being in the dumpster and people in general being less inclined to worry about non-severe symptoms I bet we are catching a way lower portion of mild COVID cases as well. yeah, the idea that the vaccine takes something dangerous a lot of the time for non immunocompromised people and turns it into something that could feel like bad allergies for a few days is not actually a heartening statistic.
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well, it is in the sense that less death and suffering are good, but it also isn't in that person is not going to think "I have Covid" and going to stay home or get tested or whatever.
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Thoguh posted:I think there are two things happening. The first is the same as we saw last summer - places where people go inside for air conditioning get hit harder and faster than places where the weather allows for more outside activities. I think that we're seeing a repeat of that this year. The second is that I think more vaccinated areas probably have a lower effective R_0 value so it takes them longer to hit the vertical part of the exponential curve. This pretty much lines up with what I was thinking. The vaccines do help reduce how bad things are, even though they're not the magic bullet that our rear end in a top hat CDC has been pitching them as, but anything that encourages people to be inside together (especially with recirculating air with garbage filtration systems) is going to ramp that poo poo up. It's probably a question of where the tipping point is between how vaccinated an area is (and how much time has elapsed since folks were vaccinated), and how much time they're spending inside together. This also means winter's gonna be some seriously bad news unless we end up like India with almost everybody having had COVID (in which case, we delay the next wave of mass sickness for an extra couple of months, maybe).
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fosborb posted:good lord Unironic Roll Tears, jfc
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Glumwheels posted:My work just said return to office is now January 2022 lmao, yeah ok. lol every other month another "ok maybe not this time lets push it a bit further out"
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Kreeblah posted:This pretty much lines up with what I was thinking. The vaccines do help reduce how bad things are, even though they're not the magic bullet that our rear end in a top hat CDC has been pitching them as, but anything that encourages people to be inside together (especially with recirculating air with garbage filtration systems) is going to ramp that poo poo up. It's probably a question of where the tipping point is between how vaccinated an area is (and how much time has elapsed since folks were vaccinated), and how much time they're spending inside together. The winter concerns are going to be primarily about a new, more dangerous variant. Delta moves too quickly for it to take that long to hit the peak.
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Thoguh posted:Plus with testing being in the dumpster and people in general being less inclined to worry about non-severe symptoms I bet we are catching a way lower portion of mild COVID cases as well. Yeah the cfr is pretty much the same as always, look at the goon tracker matching curves so easily regardless of variant Means we aren't catching barely any asymptomatic vaccinated cases
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Schnorkles posted:well, it is in the sense that less death and suffering are good, but it also isn't in that person is not going to think "I have Covid" and going to stay home or get tested or whatever. Exactly. Delta changing Covid symptom presentation to more closely resemble colds/allergies was a 
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Trip report third Pfizer dose, at my local Kroger pharmacy. Told them I was on remicade for my Crohn's which is one of the TNF inhibitors they opened it up for. They were confused at first but pharmacist looked it up and now I have slut juice coursing through my veins.
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lol they're definitely doing the "winnow the weak from the strong" poo poo and they're not being particularly subtle about it either
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SKULL.GIF posted:you WILL spread covid Maybe Desantis is actually a secret Nurgle Cultist?
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Jon Irenicus posted:the question is: why isn't it exploding yet in places like PA, NY, MA, and MI yet? I assume Delta got a firm grip on the unvaccinated in the greater south, but Open Biden happened everywhere MI case numbers are 6x or greater what they were at the end of June. aside from that, most schools dont open for another couple weeks here.
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Glumwheels posted:My work just said return to office is now January 2022 lmao, yeah ok. They just pushed our date to late October. For now.
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Aug 20, 2021 17:04
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My neighbors company just said gently caress it and went remote permanently. He's going to wfh from a beach in Mexico.
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etalian posted:Maybe Desantis is actually a secret Nurgle Cultist? He literally gets money every time someone needs regeneron
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T-Paine posted:https://twitter.com/youngestwoman/status/1428720287382654977 Denying care for gender therapy, birth control, STDs, and abortions still cool though.
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i have little hope that oster's credibility and career will ever be bludgeoned and buried by the shovels of mass shaming over this incitement to murder 
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gently caress man. Why does reality got to be Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I went to Costco last night to do a final stock-up before poo poo gets really dire and cold weather sets in and you wouldn't know anything was wrong. Piles of non-masked folks, full parking lots at the restaurants, people shopping without a care in the world. And this is one of the better areas for pandemic hygiene and vaccination. See I see this argument but like what if these people never panic. Like poo poo, the first time that we lockdown people didn't have their minds consumed by politics and they didn't know what to expect from covid. But now, they have Donald trump as their shield or they have open Biden or whatever the gently caress. Like I feel like the responsible thing to do is take it seriously, but we have learned that over time, people just don't have the patience to care atm, like at all. I mean I still stocked up though, in case I'm wrong. 
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lol remote learning is outlawed
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I wish some anti-abortionists would find out Regeneron is made of fetus stem cells and go protest these stupid clinics
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Der Meister posted:man im like, feeling really sad today moderna 3 will enlarge your heart the way you wan
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zegermans posted:waking up every morning googling to see if Cardinal Burke is dead I didn't realize this ghoul had COVID.
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will it be this week? Next week? Im ready to get this show on the road here
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Atrocious Joe posted:I didn't realize this ghoul had COVID. Bidens will absolutely attend his funeral
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Mr. Pizza posted:will it be this week? Next week? Im ready to get this show on the road here 2nd week of September will be incredibly bad
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Otter_Sauce posted:gently caress man. Why does reality got to be the images coming out of India during peak delta were really, really hard to handle sometimes.
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space chandeliers posted:i have little hope that oster's credibility and career will ever be bludgeoned and buried by the shovels of mass shaming over this incitement to murder The idiot economics PhD holder is trying to walk away from her masks are useless for kids “study” now that kids are dying in Florida? gently caress her
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Birdsite is starting to get more and more chatter screaming for a national teacher strike.
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Biowarfare posted:lol every other month another "ok maybe not this time lets push it a bit further out" That's how my work does it. They wait until the very last minute and then say, "one more month" We just started WFH again this week, so I'm good until the week of Labor Day. Of course this is all entirely based on the CDC using a red color for the county, when it drops back down to orange, it's time for opener up again.
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my friends with young kids are split between the families trying to con the school into letting their child attend class remotely, and the families happy to take photos of their maskless preschooler in class with a bunch of other maskless preschoolers.
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I am still operating on a 30 day remote work policy instituted 17 months ago.
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Why the gently caress hasn't Biden issued SOME sort of order for masks or vaccinations in the schools. He should threaten any school district with a withdrawal of federal funds that doesn't require it - and frankly the DOJ should file charges against school board members who vote to let children die.
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Iron Crowned posted:That's how my work does it. They wait until the very last minute and then say, "one more month" 6 quarters in a row of cancelling our return date and we still have hour long meetings and mandatory trainings about what it will be like to go back. "When we return to the office in $month here's what you can expect"
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AwesomeDude posted:This might be a dumb question and the answer is probably “just buy more” (or get a respirator which I did do), but is there any reason I couldn’t use one of those UV disinfection boxes for phones on a used K94 mask? I think you could but you could also just leave it out in the sun for a bit. And I don't think you really need to bother with either if you're rotating through like five of them or something.
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Iron Crowned posted:That's how my work does it. They wait until the very last minute and then say, "one more month" in an ideal world i'd like it to be illegal or at least extreme negligence/manslaughter-tier liability if you have a job that can be done remotely in any way and still being forced to come in for no reason during a pandemic
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