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Pioneer42 posted:Remember, “good” and “bad” have more to do with parse comparisons than “enjoyment” in this super-casual game with trivial, repetitive content.
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Fair! And DPS is a valid play-style goal. Just don’t let min-max inefficiency get in the way of your favorite ship, because in the end the differences are reconcilable.
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thats pretty reassuring that i can just look the way i want and it wont matter much. tbh, i forgot how the content is basically there for show in this game. never understood what they had against a hard mode, even if it rewarded the same some people would enjoy the challenge or need to synergize E: so with the dominion do you ultimately pick a side like romulan or how is that handled? E2: nvm, figured that might be in the OP and it was Worf fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Aug 19, 2021 03:26
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Eimi posted:Sadly the Legendary Excelsior, which is a good ship, is locked in the single worst bundle and you should never buy it. It's a drat shame. The normal fleet Excelsior is...usable. Branching out into the command abilities help. Concentrate Firepower 3 is incredible for toprs, Overwhelm Emitters is decent filler, and Call Emergency Artillery is solid now I believe.
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I'm giving this game a try again. I want to do the Science Space Wizard thing but looks like a lot of it is locked behind lobi and lockboxes. Trying to get things together for this build sutherland t6 discount sci ulti Had some Zen leftover so bought the New Genesis Bundle. Grinding out reps, Admiralty, and R&D for now. Any chance I could get a fleet invite? Handle is jocasta@khhsdude RescueFreak fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Statutory Ape posted:I like excelsiors and galaxies and nebulas and defiants pretty much. I understand this is probably boring or whatever
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RescueFreak posted:
EDIT: Ditched the last slash on the one in your post, and edited mine. I'd probably run it with a torpedo focus, instead of beams. Gravimetric, Particle Emission, and Dark Matter up front, with the Chronometric Calculations weapons on aft. Could throw a normal Polaron omni-beam on back as well, and go with the tactical consoles of Chronometric, Lorca, Fek'ihri Torment Engine. Room enough to do what you want with the Engineering and Science consoles. Lorak fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Eimi posted:As for the Galaxy...yeah no the devs have something against it. It's just bad. Nothing is so bad it's unusable, but it's just not a great ship. The only okay ones are the horrible All Good Things 3 nacelle monstrosity. It's locked in that area where the devs are like 'we think that large slow-turning basic cruisers should be viable all on their own!' without actually doing anything to make them viable.
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MikeJF posted:It's locked in that area where the devs are like 'we think that large slow-turning basic cruisers should be viable all on their own!' without actually doing anything to make them viable. They were kind of viable ten years ago because everything was slow turning back then. I think the idea now is you grind out 100 endevour levels first to make your brick turn like a slightly lighter brick.
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The problem really is the cat's been out of the bag for a while now. Why bother with some plodding 5-6 turn cruiser thing with the inertia of a brick when you can get something thats basically identical but also has 8+ turn, better inertia, and probably a hangar bay or something too? And of course beams have been nerfed to hell and back making an immobile buoy boat even more unappealing.
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DancingShade posted:They were kind of viable ten years ago because everything was slow turning back then. I think the idea now is you grind out 100 endevour levels first to make your brick turn like a slightly lighter brick. I fly the Galaxy and hey look what I hit the other day  Definitely priority numero uno.
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RescueFreak posted:I'm giving this game a try again. If you want a cheap space wizard build, look here. It's an extremely budget build (56k ec and 40k dil) that will do enough DPS to handle normal and many advanced TFOs, and it's very easy to start upgrading it without compromising the build. The (simplified) boff abilities in it can be used without change on the Sutherland.
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g0del posted:Oh wow, how old is that build? It's got plasmonic leech, which got nerfed into the ground ages ago. It's also got a horrible mix of beam boat and sci abilities that won't synergize at all, and the mix means neither the beams nor the sci will be good. It also doesn't list any duty officers, which is a pretty good sign that a build isn't serious. Oh, and it goes for the sci ultimate in the skill tree which is a trap option and should be avoided at all costs. Thanks for the feedback. That was very helpful. Going to give that a shot and see how I like things before investing in the more meta build. My priority should be getting all the gear and then upgrading it, right? The Red Alert event has been great for farming marks and no one seems to roll on gear so been vendoring it all for EC. Key prices are crazy, they are around 10mil now, I remember them being 3mil.
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New ship. https://twitter.com/ShipTalkingPod/status/1428139710615011332 https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1428386487213694978
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eeewwww Man, to think when I thought the disco ships were kinda ugly. They're some top-tier ship design compared to the 32nd century garbage.
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Cyrano4747 posted:eeewwww I kinda wanna fly one of the earth defense fleet skyscaper ships, just because of how silly it'll look in-game 
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Aug 19, 2021 18:04
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Cyrano4747 posted:eeewwww Hey, at least they're all promo box garbage so they can be safely ignored.
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I am curious how the never-ending lock trajectory will play out for escorts.
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MikeJF posted:I kinda wanna fly one of the earth defense fleet skyscaper ships, just because of how silly it'll look Oh I certainly get that. That temporal cruiser with the gently caress-off huge an annoying saucer is fun to be obnoxious with in ESD. I'm 100% on board for anything that's giant and silly and maybe has hilarious synergies with existing modules etc that add an obnoxious visual effect. At that point being obnoxious and ugly is the whole reason you have it.
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At least they're gating all these hideous 32nd century ships behind promos and lockboxes. I never have to see them or consider spending EC. Maybe I'd consider the vegan rainforest donut.
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Cythereal posted:Hey, at least they're all promo box garbage so they can be safely ignored. This. I've seen a total of one courage-class flying toilet so far. Ever.
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DancingShade posted:This. I've seen a total of one courage-class flying toilet so far. Ever. I've seen one or two Janeways and that's all I can think of.
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RescueFreak posted:Thanks for the feedback. That was very helpful. Going to give that a shot and see how I like things before investing in the more meta build. I would focus on putting together the build as linked (it should be very cheap, but does require running some missions for gear). Then play around with it to see if you enjoy the playstyle. If you do, then you can start planning out a final build. Look at the end section of the guide I linked for better gear you can get, and maybe also look through the DPS League science guide for some more tips. Once you decide what your long-term gear is going to be, then you can work on getting that gear and upgrading it. Upgrades are generally too expensive to waste on gear that you'll be replacing as soon as you have access to better rep/fleet/lockbox gear. One exception is probably the secondary deflector. A lot of your damage comes from a deteriorating secondary deflector, and the higher mark/quality it is, the better. Luckily the meta secdef is just a plain crafted one (so it's dirt cheap), so when you do want to try upgrading, try it on the secdef.
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Tell you what would get me to actually consider buyuing promo ship gamble boxes - that half transparent wierdo skycraper ship that orbited the planet where Wesley was nearly put to death by the half naked hot people for falling into some flower garden by accident. Fake edit - looked it up, episode was "justice" and it was the "edo god ship". Looks like some corporate business park complex only in space.
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MikeJF posted:I kinda wanna fly one of the earth defense fleet skyscaper ships, just because of how silly it'll look in-game This tooth-shaped ship looks like it'd be piloted by tooth fairies which were aliens all along
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galenanorth posted:This tooth-shaped ship looks like it'd be piloted by tooth fairies which were aliens all along Soon I will have enough teeth to repair my tooth ship and return home to my enamel condo on Tooth Planet.
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Asimo posted:A little belated, but nah the weekend/five day version of the event just gives the tech upgrade and spec point, which admittedly is still pretty nice for the zero effort it takes. They save the ship upgrade for the two week "oh poo poo we need a filler before the next event/mission is ready" version. Ah bollocks. I guess its sort of understandable, but one would expect Cryptic to update information on their main f**ing loading screen for the event. 
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Next meta event starts next week. It's No Win Scenario.
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Cythereal posted:Next meta event starts next week. It's No Win Scenario. Yeah but what’s the event
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Der Kyhe posted:Ah bollocks. I guess its sort of understandable, but one would expect Cryptic to update information on their main f**ing loading screen for the event.
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They made maybe an even bigger mistake in the No Win Scenario announcement where it said you could earn the Kobayashi Maru freighter instead of the whatever ground module. 
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for those of you who have never done these two queues before I recommend the ground one (Arena of Sompek), its more fun and arguably faster, the space one can have some really annyoning modifiers like always zooming around at max speed making cannon ships useless without Lock Trajectory
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Teron D Amun posted:for those of you who have never done these two queues before I recommend the ground one (Arena of Sompek), Agreed. Sompek is actually fun ground combat (IMO). greasythepirate fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 21, 2021 |
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Is Sompek more fun with any particular career?
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science with any of the area damage kits will wipe the floor with anything it throws at you but apart from that just bring what you will
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Infected: The Conduit on advanced in less than 20 seconds.  Those steamrollers made the Borg TFO endeavor a breeze.
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So since the final annual event is coming up and I'll actually have Lobi to spend; what's the typical largest discount they give? Do they ever have 30% off at the Lobi store around Black Friday/Christmas or is it 25%?
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OGS-Remix posted:So since the final annual event is coming up and I'll actually have Lobi to spend; what's the typical largest discount they give? 25% is probably the highest, which is enough to get 2 ships with the lobi prize. I've found myself suddenly questioning my initial choice of ship. I was going to get the Vaadwaur Juggernaut, but then I considered getting a nice temporal ship for my temporal operative when that comes along, but the only one that I like to look of has objectively horrible seating because its one of the original Temporal ships and only even has 4 Boff seats.
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