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I been I am now counting calories hardcore (~1750/day target gonna try and do it for 60 days and see what happens), what should I expect? Maybe some little baby gains still? To have to fight like hell not to lose strength? To lose a lot of strength? I figure if I was super jacked I'd lose a ton of strength over the next 60 days or so but since I'm still a noob maybe it won't be that bad.
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No one knows when it comes to newbies People new to lifting can gain muscle almost no matter what they do, but usually only up to a certain point
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Aug 20, 2021 13:48
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bird with big dick posted:I been Are you obese or just a bit overweight? The main thing you will probably notice is just lower energy (motivation) during training and maybe feeling more fatigue. But I wouldn't expect to you losing strength or losing muscle. Chances are, you will probably still put on muscle (just a bit slower) and be able to get stronger due to becoming more proficient with the lifts itself.
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Aug 20, 2021 13:56
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bird with big dick posted:I been I've been on a 1k deficit for 5 months and started lifting from being completely sedentary my whole life about 3 months ago. On days/weeks where I eat at maintenance or overeat by accident, I do way better in the gym. That may be all in my head though. Either way, I'm still making pretty consistent progress on Greyskull LP. Things are starting to slow down, but I imagine that's just from hitting the end of the LP. Maybe I could go longer on the LP if I was bulking during it, but I imagine that when I'm done dieting in a year and start hypertrophy training to fill out loose skin, I'll probably make those gains then. Basically I don't feel like I'm permanently missing out on anything. As far as muscle loss, research shows three things. First, resistance training preserves muscle extremely well during a cut. Second, any muscle lost will probably come right back. Your body kinda remembers how much muscle it had and it becomes easier to regain it. Third, if you're new you can build muscle in a cut. It's probably not a ton and most strength gains are just CNS improvements. I have no facts on this but my guess is it's probably because resistance training is a totally new stressor on the body so it feels like it has to adapt way more intensely to it.
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Aug 20, 2021 14:36
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Jinh posted:
To build up on this, a lot of studies that say you lose muscle on a cut use lean mass % to determine how much was lost. Thats all fine and dandy until you realize that lean mass also includes organs and skin and poo poo. So really, the only time when you can really worry about losing noticeable muscle mass is probably when you are getting stage ready shredded for a bodybuilding comp.
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Aug 20, 2021 14:44
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Didn't Thrall lose like 30+ pounds of mass but only like a pound and a half of lean mass? He's about as strong as he's ever been, too.
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Aug 20, 2021 14:58
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1750 calories seems like quite a steep deficit to jump into, how much did you typically eat before all of this?
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Aug 20, 2021 15:03
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Just make sure you're sleeping & doing recovery stuff that you like (stretching/yoga/massage/cold/warm therapy/whatever the gently caress makes your brain feel good) if you're gonna push on a cut No use in fighting multiple front wars at the same time. If you're not sleeping you're hosed
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Aug 20, 2021 15:26
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I've always heard to prioritize protein calories during a cut to ensure that you minimize muscle loss, or at least retain the possibility of gaining muscle. Focus on meeting your protein goal every day and cut calories from carbs and fat.
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Aug 20, 2021 15:53
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Omnikin posted:Just make sure you're sleeping & doing recovery stuff that you like (stretching/yoga/massage/cold/warm therapy/whatever the gently caress makes your brain feel good) if you're gonna push on a cut Yeah 100% Sleep is absolutely necessary, you need that recovery Fitzy Fitz posted:I've always heard to prioritize protein calories during a cut to ensure that you minimize muscle loss, or at least retain the possibility of gaining muscle. Focus on meeting your protein goal every day and cut calories from carbs and fat. And yup. Side note, I heard this on the barbell medicine podcast the other day and it's a neat trick: If you're really overweight, use your height in cm to determine how many grams per day you need, no reason to eat like 300g/day if you're a fat bastard like me, it's just a waste of money. The cm to grams thing scales pretty well for a rough estimate. I'm 5'10 so about 177 grams of protein a day. That's about 45% of my total daily calories on 1600 a day.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:08
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Concatenation posted:1750 calories seems like quite a steep deficit to jump into, how much did you typically eat before all of this? Only the chinese buffet knows for sure.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:15
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I'd guess 3500ish.
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bird with big dick posted:Only the chinese buffet knows for sure. man I was way overdue for a chinese buffet visit pre-COVID and sure as poo poo haven't been back since. I'm gonna plan an entire bulking cycle (lol if I ever can lose weight) around weekly buffet visits
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Aug 20, 2021 16:20
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Helios Grime posted:Are you obese or just a bit overweight? I'm NFL O-line size in both height and weight if the O-lineman retired from the NFL and started a career of eating cheesy mashed potatoes. I'm on day 5. Going alright so far. Definitely feel a bit low energy but still been doing my normal workouts. 1750 isn't super strict either, yesterday I was 2100, day before was 1773, day before that was 2049. Maybe target 2,000 is closer.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:22
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Omnikin posted:man I was way overdue for a chinese buffet visit pre-COVID and sure as poo poo haven't been back since. I'm gonna plan an entire bulking cycle (lol if I ever can lose weight) around weekly buffet visits Yeah I miss it. There's this little one near me that was small but good quality. Not 4 huge buffet lines of poo poo like a lot of chinese buffets but 1 counter of stuff that's actually good. That's one of the things that kinda bummed me out, I started working from home and quit going to that place every other week and quit going to burger king for lunch twice a week or whatever and started going for walks and riding my exercise bike pretty regular and I didn't really lose much weight. I didn't gain like a lot of people, but didn't lose much either. Started lifting weights, lost a little more, definitely have traded some fat for muscle, but still not really the progress I was looking. So now doing what I really knew all along I needed to do but was pretending I could avoid: counting calories. Also added 30 minutes of cardio every day.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:30
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<2k is super low if you're a big dude, lifting multiple times a week, and get any type of cardio and will likely catch up to you even if you feel fine now. I've done 1k deficits and lost ~2 lbs a week for decent stretches but even that was like 2500 given my size and activity level.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:37
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Yeah, might be a little extreme. Maybe do it for a week or two to get a jump start and then ease off a bit?
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Aug 20, 2021 16:50
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if you do get super low energy and lethargic and can't get through your day, definitely up the calories by a couple hundred But also, if it works great and you make progress, then just keep doing it
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Aug 20, 2021 17:00
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I also do 15 minutes a day of Iron Neck.
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Aug 20, 2021 17:11
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RP actually just put up two videos that are pretty relevant to counting calories while lifting (plus lots of their older dieting videos) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88z36xmf42Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aChRmrU6C1c e: maybe this one is the most direct response to your question though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QpjX2K-JY0 Fitzy Fitz fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 17:33
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Is this what all you kettlebell maniacs do all day? https://i.imgur.com/khiVqNe.mp4
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yes but without that harness.
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Aug 21, 2021 19:02
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Pee is stored in the kettlebell.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Is this what all you kettlebell maniacs do all day? Finally, a functional way to train carrying my huge dick n balls around
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Finally, a functional way to train carrying my huge dick n balls around That is his dick and balls now, it’s a cyborg implant, he’s a cyborg. 
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My latest workout: bodybuilding style isolation exercises, hitting each and every body part that I know of. Super long sets, super low weight, moving each rep super slowly, pausing at the top, pausing at the bottom, and never going to failure. Like, I'll hop on the machine bicep curl, put it at 15 lbs, and move that thing slowly back and forth for 2 and a half minutes straight while listening to a history podcast on my headphones. And it's been great! I have muscles bulging out of everywhere and I think I'm stronger too. Maybe it's just working so well because it's so different from what I've always done in the past, but whatever it is, I'm going to stick with it for 3 months or so and see it I keep making progress.
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Stealth Tiger posted:My latest workout: bodybuilding style isolation exercises, hitting each and every body part that I know of. Super long sets, super low weight, moving each rep super slowly, pausing at the top, pausing at the bottom, and never going to failure. Like, I'll hop on the machine bicep curl, put it at 15 lbs, and move that thing slowly back and forth for 2 and a half minutes straight while listening to a history podcast on my headphones. Hell yeah! I'm a slowbro myself. Ratcheted back the resistance and have been focusing on getting good form, doing sets of 8-12 reps. Definitely good for a pump, and I spend more time at the gym as a result. Good luck with your progress!
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On the opposite end of the spectrum, I'm planning to start learning how to power snatch for real next week.
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I do all my lifts like I'm jerkin off dicks and getting paid per liter of jizz. Just fuckin frantic.
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I moved a shop full of machine equipment with a forklift but a significant portion of that meant lifting and shoving 2000-lb-plus tools around by hand last week My arms have never felt like this and they don’t feel like they’re recovering
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bird with big dick posted:I do all my lifts like I'm jerkin off dicks and getting paid per liter of jizz. Just fuckin frantic. That one Silicon Valley scene where they try to calculate how to most efficiently jerk off a room full of dudes. E: 
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Aug 22, 2021 23:57
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bird with big dick posted:I been Week one in the books. Adjusted my target to 2000-2250. Lost 9.4 pounds but I know a good chunk of that was water. Will be interesting to see what happens week two.
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bird with big dick posted:Week one in the books. Adjusted my target to 2000-2250. Lost 9.4 pounds but I know a good chunk of that was water. Will be interesting to see what happens week two. Good LORD, that's a lot of weight for one week!
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Batterypowered7 posted:Good LORD, that's a lot of weight for one week! It's pretty feasible. Especially if there was a drop in carb intake. If it doesn't flatten out within a few weeks then that's probably too much a deficit.
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Aug 23, 2021 18:05
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Yeah I think it's gonna flatten out a lot. I'm guessing this week will be like 4 pounds.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:21
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any time I've tried to cut the first week was somewhere between 8 and 10 lbs. Then maybe 5 the next week then normal 1-2 until I give up.
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Does DEET give you cancer? 'cause I've been spraying myself down with some 25% DEET, Off! Deep Woods before every workout in an attempt to keep these mosquitos at bay.
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Aug 23, 2021 22:31
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If you think about it cancer is just cell gains.
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Aug 24, 2021 01:28
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Click here for batterypowerd7’s secret to massive, cellular level gains.
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I got some scratches on one of my bars does anyone know if they will repair this under warranty can I send it somewhere and have it recoated
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