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Was looking for how they can excuse doing normal lunches in schools and found this article and holy lmao https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-kids-school-return-parents-questions
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:04 |
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Nodelphi posted:Also the caution number where the nurse on the line will send someone to the ER and the threshold you need to meet to get admitted to the hospital are different and those goalposts move a bit depending on how full the hospital is.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:04 |
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Thoguh posted:You don't have to do anything new and drastic to get almost everybody vaxxed, our system already has a bunch of situations where technically you aren't required to do something, but that you have to do if you want to participate in society in a meaningful way. Hell, just making being vaxxed a precondition to fly would go a long way. Mandatory for certain activities (flying, major employers, etc.) + Paid incentives would get a large number vaccinated. I think the stick side is also fair for hospitals to deprioritize for treatment and as much as I hate them… for insurers to drop or massively increase cost of coverage. I do think the people who imagine that if the military did try to administer it that there would be some sort of armed rebellion have too much faith in Americans to actually stand up to poo poo. We all saw Jan 6. The chuds might be able to do stupid poo poo as a mob. However, they are super disorganized and start back peddling at real consequences. They are armchair rebels. It’s cool to talk with you buds over your beers about how you’d fight the gubment, but they will absolutely fold.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:07 |
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The US already had forced vaccinations during the 1900s smallpox epidemic. Some places only fined you for refusal but in others police "virus squads" physically held you down while a medic injected you. One pastor said the vaccine might be more dangerous than smallpox. His was put on trial and his case escalated to the Supreme Court where he lost and the precedent still stands. There is absolutely no legal obstacle to forced vaccination other than proving the situation is sufficiently dire to warrant it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts The actual practical obstacle is that most of our police and a substantial number of troops are insane chuds who would refuse to repeat the 1900s programs. Also, we haven't even tried voluntary door-to-door vaccination coupled with guaranteed paid time off.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:08 |
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Lawlicaust posted:Mandatory for certain activities (flying, major employers, etc.) + Paid incentives would get a large number vaccinated. I think the stick side is also fair for hospitals to deprioritize for treatment and as much as I hate them… for insurers to drop or massively increase cost of coverage. paid incentives + mandatory allowed paid leave for side effects would help alot for working poor and poc.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:10 |
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Shere posted:It's the primary excuse, not reason, and the thing about excuses is that it's excuses all the way down. I posted about a friend who refuses to get vaccinated and it is this in his case. He was talking about ivermectin the other day. He's going to keep googling to justify his decision not to get the vaccine.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:11 |
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BIG HORNY COW posted:Both my parents got taken from school in buses to an airbase hangar and given the polio vaccine. They said nobody seemed to have a problem with it back then and my mom wondered why they don't just do this now. I told her because people will shoot at them if they even think it's going to happen. the modern army's solution would be to rendition anyone with memory of the polio vaccine scheme to military bases, and then torture them until they believe in the benefits of public private partnerships.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:12 |
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:Today lamo at pa being a bastion
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:14 |
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my favorite stupid thing is all these cops posting vague allusions to the storm is coming and cops are gonna hafta shoot people or w/e and at the same time they're all turning their lungs into swiss cheese because they refuse to get vaccinated. truly, cops are the dumbest of us.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:14 |
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i'm the thin blue line between order and chaos *cough cough*
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:14 |
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Schnorkles posted:likely not a bad reading. you want to take an o2 reading sort of randomly at rest, when you think about it you can consciously try to breathe and will raise your resting number Low 90s sats aren’t physiologically taxing. The data for supplemental oxygen really only shows benefits for cutoffs of 88-89% depending on your underlying conditions. Shrugging at 93% has been a long running thing.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:15 |
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let’s just hire some private military contractors to administer the vaccines, then they’ll just shoot everyone for being antivaxxers because it’s cheaper than actually vaccinating people and when people start running away when they come to town that’s proof that they are antivaxxers and deserved it
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:16 |
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inferis posted:let’s just hire some private military contractors to administer the vaccines, then they’ll just shoot everyone for being antivaxxers because it’s cheaper than actually vaccinating people and when people start running away when they come to town that’s proof that they are antivaxxers and deserved it
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:19 |
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Thoguh posted:I do think that the full FDA approval will lead to many more employers and schools deciding they can mandate the vaccine. And pretty much every case we've seen where the vaccine was mandated the number of people that actually quit or got fired vs getting jabs has been very small. So while I'm sure that the anti-vaxxers will move to another excuse, I do think that full approval is a major step. I agree that it should just be approved, even if only for this reason. It's stupid that it's not approved, they couldn't possibly not approve it at this point. I'm simply saying on an individual basis that anyone using the FDA as an excuse not to get the vaccine is full of poo poo for all the same reasons. If this leads to more localized mandates, great. The FDA approval in and of itself isn't going to convince any appreciable amount of holdouts to get it unless that happens.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:20 |
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Outdoor wedding, cough cough
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:21 |
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inferis posted:let’s just hire some private military contractors to administer the vaccines, then they’ll just shoot everyone for being antivaxxers because it’s cheaper than actually vaccinating people and when people start running away when they come to town that’s proof that they are antivaxxers and deserved it Nisour Square, but with vaccines
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:22 |
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Steve Yun posted:
i would be very interested to know the percentage of those 9 that are asymptomatic or near-asymptomatic
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:22 |
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I think I just realized that I never thought about lentils as anything other than sprouts. Like I'm pretty sure I thought lentil soup would just be some clover looking things in some broth.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:23 |
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Schnorkles posted:i would be very interested to know the percentage of those 9 that are asymptomatic or near-asymptomatic added another screenshot. she herself is “very” symptomatic now
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:23 |
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BIG HORNY COW posted:Both my parents got taken from school in buses to an airbase hangar and given the polio vaccine. They said nobody seemed to have a problem with it back then and my mom wondered why they don't just do this now. I told her because people will shoot at them if they even think it's going to happen. They are lots of similar stories how the military went all over the USA / even after church services to make sure no town didn't get the Salk vaccine.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:24 |
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Schnorkles posted:i would be very interested to know the percentage of those 9 that are asymptomatic or near-asymptomatic From personal experience my Texas patients who are sick sick have been 1 vaccinated with j and j (went home in good shape) and around 50 unvaccinated with 6 deaths in the past month. Seen breakthrough cases abound but mostly incidentals from preop testing.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:25 |
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Steve Yun posted:
Outdoor wedding. Likely with an indoor dinner and drinks the night before and brunch the day after.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:26 |
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Mr. Pizza posted:is this 'bad cold' stuff a real thing or is it just covid? I have a family member trying to visit another family member in a nursing home. The visitor has 'been dealing with a cold for a couple days' featuring runny nose, a little sneezing and coughing last night. 'Probably a vapers cough.' 100% this morning but now they have a sinus headache. grats on the rona, get a test
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:27 |
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Lovelyn posted:so anyway, behold my beans/lentils
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:27 |
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Lmao https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1429554084948975618?s=21
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:28 |
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Pillowpants posted:I’m SO mad. Why do they care what you think exactly? And no, you aren’t. I’d be hoping they were all hospitalized or worse. lol
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:28 |
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kids are with their families you loving dork
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:28 |
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Spoondick posted:get screenshots before it immediately goes sideways on them and the cowards delete it yeah do this
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:30 |
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deathbysnusnu posted:From personal experience my Texas patients who are sick sick have been 1 vaccinated with j and j (went home in good shape) and around 50 unvaccinated with 6 deaths in the past month. Seen breakthrough cases abound but mostly incidentals from preop testing. as we're in anecdotal experience land, how many young kids have you seen? (or are aware of if that doesn't directly correspond with what you do) I'm mostly unworried about getting lethal illness. I'm terrified about passing COVID to my son while asymptomatic.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:30 |
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Schnorkles posted:
there ain’t much you can do to prevent this expect being in lockdown . delta kind of sucks
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:31 |
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Insanite posted:latest death panel podcast feels simpatico with this thread: This is a great podcast. These people are on crack-ping number twenty seven, it sounds like. Very cspam, very covid thread approved.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:32 |
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euphronius posted:there ain’t much you can do to prevent this expect being in lockdown . delta kind of sucks am mostly in lockdown tbh.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:33 |
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Lovelyn posted:Me too! I e-mailed one of our reps and essentially stated that the best thing our union could do to keep its members safe is to not oppose the mandate. They responded SHOCKED and said I was the ONLY person who had e-mailed anything positive about the mandate, and they promised they won't fight it but rather would ensure people could take their PTO if they choose to leave. Good riddance, fuckers! Good for you! The anti-vaxxers are loud and suck up a lot of attention. Their appeals about their rights being trampled by a rapacious employer seem like the kind of thing a union needs to fight at first glance, but the people who quietly got their vaccine voluntarily are members who deserve protection too, even if it's from their own irresponsible coworkers. I understand the awkward position it puts union officers in, but sometimes what the employer suggests is actually the right course of action, and the union's course is to make sure it is handled fairly. Take for instance a response like this: Toronto Star posted:While unions representing Toronto’s more than 37,000 municipal employees made no sign Thursday they would oppose the city’s vaccine mandate, Amalgamated Transit Union Local 113, which represents about 12,000 TTC workers, was swift to condemn the move. Some of these points are fair, but I really don't think a transit union president should be describing vaccination as a "personal health matter." How much of that is personal conviction and how much is a union official playing politics to appease his members is hard to say.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:33 |
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my wife has to teach in class and I have to go into offices so .. we wear out masks but kind of at the wim of others
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:34 |
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Schnorkles posted:as we're in anecdotal experience land, how many young kids have you seen? (or are aware of if that doesn't directly correspond with what you do) No pediatrics in my field so no anecdotes there. I’m a hospitalist so I’m seeing inpatient adults and my work is mostly the covid mines right now. Adult deaths got me spooked on a personal level. Delta is ripping through 30 year olds I’m seeing faster than alpha went through 80 year olds.
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:34 |
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Mr. Pizza posted:is this 'bad cold' stuff a real thing or is it just covid? I have a family member trying to visit another family member in a nursing home. The visitor has 'been dealing with a cold for a couple days' featuring runny nose, a little sneezing and coughing last night. 'Probably a vapers cough.' 100% this morning but now they have a sinus headache. ask the one who wants to visit why they literally want to kill the person they are visiting and do not love or care about them. it is a real and valid question
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:36 |
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okay we all now know why nate silver couldnt handle physics 101
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:36 |
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Stevie Lee posted:you can only lmao so much death and misery away. false. watch this
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# ? Aug 22, 2021 22:37 |
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Ruggan posted:Why do they care what you think exactly? because they’re like ignorant schoolyard bullies who found Q
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