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i'll chain probe shrike if someone gives me buttons in this thread >=)
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Lib and let die posted:i'll chain probe shrike if someone gives me buttons in this thread >=)
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I love when they call out Dual Loyalist warmongers like Schiff. https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1422406369559334922 Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 15:58 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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shrike82 posted:did michael brooks do stuff outside of the sam seder show he co-hosted? i find it weird how people eulogized him as a political figure post-humously when he seemed like a random podcaster. He had his own youtube show that was quite popular. I watched it right up until he told people to vote for Biden, which was shortly before he died. Not that I'm suggesting there was a connection between the two....
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Crowsbeak posted:I love when they call out Dual Loyalist warmongers like Schiff.
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Crowsbeak posted:I love when they call out Dual Loyalist warmongers like Schiff. lol cori bush shaking hands with Adam schiff in that video
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MLSM posted:lol cori bush shaking hands with Adam schiff in that video To paraphrase Lenin. “Don’t trust the Democrats they will betray you.”
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Falstaff posted:He had his own youtube show that was quite popular. I watched it right up until he told people to vote for Biden, which was shortly before he died. Not that I'm suggesting there was a connection between the two.... he had information that would lead to the election of joseph biden
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https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1423003329865605120?s=20 Oh word?
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gradenko_2000 posted:as far as talking to the people here on CSPAM, whether or not you support Force The Vote is neither here nor there in isolation, but it's incredibly galling that The Squad is willing to do "Force the Vote" on issues BESIDES M4A, and especially when AOC, when she was still campaigning, said that she believed in the need to hold a vote on M4A, even if it wasn't going to pass https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1339282755474042882 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1337619814744006659 FacelessVoid posted:To be fair, it's not that the squad don't want to bring the bill to the floor even if it fails. It's the fact that: 1) it's not their bill so they can't technically do it. It's Jayapal's bill. 2) They also need Pelosi to allow it to come to the floor. FTV people wanted the squad to leverage votes over Pelosi's speakership when she was going to be reinstated. This could force Pelosi to allow it. But they refused to do so. the squad has already demonstrated that they have the numbers and are painfully aware of this with the kabuki theater they did recently with the narrow passage for billions in funding to israel and d.c. cops. they are willing to vote tactically and coordinate there. on top of that, they've explicitly tweeted out that they understand this basic parliamentary principle https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1342213063618011136
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comedyblissoption posted:the squad has already demonstrated that they have the numbers and are painfully aware of this with the kabuki theater they did recently with the narrow passage for billions in funding to israel and d.c. cops. they are willing to vote tactically and coordinate there. This is really the most damning thing, because there's no explanation for it other than "they deliberately coordinated to pass this bill while preserving the reputation of some of them." And it happened not only once, but twice (with both the cop funding and the israel funding, as you mention). It basically proves that they know exactly what they're doing.
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I had heard Gloria Estefan's dad was at the Bay of Pigs & captured by his own cousin. What I didn't know is that he volunteered for Vietnam and was poisoned with agent orange. So thanks Max, for that funny tidbit.
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comedyblissoption posted:FTV applies to any major legislation. the progressive caucus or the squad or any small number of house members could use their numbers in the slim house majority as leverage for concessions on issues like a m4a floor vote. it doesnt have to be a m4a floor vote. it can be...anything at all whatsoever Yes, they are willing to leverage their votes in some situation but not in others like crossing the speaker of the house. Or Israel in your example. D.C. cops bill wasn't close at all IIRC? But anyway, that's exactly my point. They clearly don't think it's worth the risk of angering other democrats. And that's not completely unjustified since they can fund rival candidates and crush you as we saw with Nina Turner. The democratic party is full of petty, vindictive people that will totally rat gently caress you for even the smallest perceived slight. I don't know if it's actually worth the risk or not. I don't suspect this is a cynical, calculated move like others suggest. That gives the squad too much credit. I think it's motivated purely by fear. It's evidence to me at least, that a small number of progressives can't do anything and only a massive, bottom-up movement can change anything. Parliamentary tactics aren't going to work.
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FacelessVoid posted:D.C. cops bill wasn't close at all IIRC? https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1395873788131172359 FacelessVoid posted:Yes, they are willing to leverage their votes in some situation but not in others like crossing the speaker of the house. Or Israel in your example. D.C. cops bill wasn't close at all IIRC? FacelessVoid posted:But anyway, that's exactly my point. They clearly don't think it's worth the risk of angering other democrats. And that's not completely unjustified since they can fund rival candidates and crush you as we saw with Nina Turner. The democratic party is full of petty, vindictive people that will totally rat gently caress you for even the smallest perceived slight. aoc is now making arguments why a m4a vote hurts m4a (during a pandemic) when before she was promoting a m4a vote when no one was pressing her on it. pelosi used to be publicly for single payer. it is clear she was not sincere. politicians can lie and convince their base of their lies. the parliamentary tactic that should be adopted is demanding popular Good things and then exposing the bougie parliament and its members as the corporate stooges they are to disillusion people. sawant wrote a good essay explaining this here: https://www.socialistalternative.org/2021/01/14/forcethevote-far-right-attacks-and-a-strategy-for-the-left/ the squad's current parliamentary tactic is to sheepdog their supporters into incrementalism for Mama Bear, The Most Progressive [rapist] President Since FDR, and literal child concentration camps.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I had heard Gloria Estefan's dad was at the Bay of Pigs & captured by his own cousin. What I didn't know is that he volunteered for Vietnam and was poisoned with agent orange. So thanks Max, for that funny tidbit. Lmao he went to vietnam because he thought helping the US empire would make them help him invade cuba. What a loving loser.
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https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1424794374576218115?s=20 muh institutions
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https://twitter.com/LuisAFigueroa75/status/1422462745627275288?s=19 Hell yes what a chad
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Aug 19, 2021 16:38
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Has someone posted him yelling at Adam Schiff yet
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/LuisAFigueroa75/status/1422462745627275288?s=19 stop wars shirt person owns
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lately max has been posting a lot of pro covid poo poo, which is annoying. it's like it jumped from greenwald to him.
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Mirello posted:lately max has been posting a lot of pro covid poo poo, which is annoying. it's like it jumped from greenwald to him. this was touched on in the Epstein thread, but people who are on the edge of anti-government discourse can quickly fall into anti-lockdown poo poo because it can both be true that COVID is real and that governments are managing COVID cack-handedly and that part of the cack-handed response is because they want to implement intrusions on civil liberties that don't have anything to do with epidemiologically controlling COVID being able to thread that needle of acknowledging that the CDC is bullshit and sucks, while also still understanding that it's necessary to keep people away from each other during an airborne respiratory pandemic, is probably a better measure of someone's grasp of the issues than stuff like "he claims to be anti-imperialist yet he defends China/Putin/Assad???!!!"
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It would be one thing if he was just going after the CDC for their incompetent and contradictory response, but for some reason he's also attacking NZ and Australia for their response despite it being much more effective and much more similar to China's response. https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1427679508954497028?s=19 https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1429671269331574788?s=19
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Not So Fast posted:It would be one thing if he was just going after the CDC for their incompetent and contradictory response, but for some reason he's also attacking NZ and Australia for their response despite it being much more effective and much more similar to China's response. yeah, I should have written explicitly that I saw that he was tweeting about Australia also and that I didn't agree with it, and I'm saying that now
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Those protests in this Commonwealth country (Canada) consist of suburban and rural cranks driving in to yell at black and brown people living downtown. I used to live by Yonge and Dundas. Having some half drunk bitch yell at me I should go back to my home country was truly an expression of freedom of speech Anti lockdown protests are far right riots
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Not So Fast posted:It would be one thing if he was just going after the CDC for their incompetent and contradictory response, but for some reason he's also attacking NZ and Australia for their response despite it being much more effective and much more similar to China's response. Lol Max, what are you doin
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I kindve get it. I mean the grayzone and modern leftist media analysis in general is all about not trusting the official narrative. He's just totally off base here. Just like how a lot of left media figures I support (thomas frank being chief among them) bought into the lab leak conspiracy poo poo. My view is nobody's perfect. I still appreciate him on foreign news. I hope he doesn't let this poo poo take over his entire personality, like greenwald seemingly has.
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This is the left wing media version of when scientists act like experts in fields they have no experience with.
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I think max is saying the wrong poo poo for the right reasons. Antilockdown stuff is almost universally reactionary, like just a pressure valve for the worst elements in society. You can be critical to liberal responses to the situation but really the angle to attack from should be liberal governments accepting ridiculous proposals like "herd immunity". As they would prefer for mass death over their profit margins stagnating.
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anti-lockdown protests are the closest we're gonna get to color revolution stuff in anglosphere countries
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Of course there's always the terrifying possibility that Max is an op intended to discredit anti-imperialist positions OwO
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max being dumb as hell here. and he’s only talking about the Australian and New Zealand. why not mention Vietnam which has put Ho Chi Minh city under a strict lockdown? for the record I think the lockdowns are good.
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https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1428929882617114625 you hate to see it, folks
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drat how will the grayzone recover from their star columnist Jimmy Dore making a bad tweet
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1428929882617114625 The replies are all cursed as gently caress liberals, so I'm now got a better opinion of the horse drug that doesn't do anything.
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As long as he's not recommending people take the version of Ivermectin made for horses it's fine. Ivermectin at this point needs more research but has become as politicised as masks.
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really queer Christmas posted:The replies are all cursed as gently caress liberals, so I'm now got a better opinion of the horse drug that doesn't do anything. It can do something alright
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Not So Fast posted:As long as he's not recommending people take the version of Ivermectin made for horses it's fine. Ivermectin at this point needs more research but has become as politicised as masks. You're right, it's totally OK to talk up the version of Ivermectin made for dogs before the science has been done. 
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Not So Fast posted:As long as he's not recommending people take the version of Ivermectin made for horses it's fine. Ivermectin at this point needs more research but has become as politicised as masks. The whole problem is that whatever utility ivermectin may have in treating covid, it's not going to be as effective as taking the drat shot, which is free. Plus everybody taking it is essentially self-dosing and a bunch of them are poisoning themselves in the process. Just take the drat shot.
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