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RoboChrist 9000 posted:So I know the origin of HQC was that one study that suggested it might be efficacious as a therapeutic and then Trump and the rest of the Fox News Cinematic Universe signal-boosted it. But how did horse medication become the new go-to miracle cure for COVID - which also doesn't need a cure anyway because it's both not real and if it is real it's only as bad as the flu. In the early days of the epidemic, clinicians were trying everything that had some kind of anti-viral or anti-inflammatory effect to treat severe covid, including ivermectin. There may be something to it, but the data sits right on the edge of significance in the believable studies and is all over the place in the lovely ones.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:HQC is at least people-medicine so I can kind of get why they were experimenting with it, but why the gently caress were scientists even testing horse anti-parasite medication on COVID in the first place? There was a TWIV episode a long time ago last year where they were talking about exploratory ivermectin research. The big takeaway was that even if there was a therapeutic benefit, it'd be in doses much, much, much higher than any human would ever be prescribed or tolerate.
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If you’ve had covid and had Low O2 stats did you continue to treat at home and ‘wait it out’? Hubby is on day 11 and says he is fine. Stats staying around 90-93 but will drop In the 80’s with any exertion. I’m a nervous mess and he is over here not concerned.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:These Facebook groups are a goldmine of content "In the end, it never even matter.........". But fo real tho, I wonder how these peeps gonna deal with their employers mandating vaccines and poo poo because that's where I see the most turnaround. Sometimes people are just plain lazy and if they meet a force so over powering, they will change their mind just because it's easier. Right now, denialism is still a loving easy stance to take and live with.
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just putting this out there for you child havers https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1429810670586011648?s=21
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can someone do me a favor and quote business gorilla's last post itt i have wfh computer toucher jobs he can add to his list
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HiHo ChiRho posted:These Facebook groups are a goldmine of content I think the Sleepy Joe whitehouse thinking FDA BLA turning around vaccination rates around is really optimistic given how dumb the US has gotten over the last 20 years.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:HQC is at least people-medicine so I can kind of get why they were experimenting with it, but why the gently caress were scientists even testing horse anti-parasite medication on COVID in the first place? It’s also an anti-inflammatory
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Spikevax should come in a container like this
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HiHo ChiRho posted:If you’ve had covid and had My O2 sats have never seriously recovered lol
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:HQC is at least people-medicine so I can kind of get why they were experimenting with it, but why the gently caress were scientists even testing horse anti-parasite medication on COVID in the first place? ivermectin is legitimately used on people, too. but the answer is they threw everything at the wall to see what stuck
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Otter_Sauce posted:"In the end, it never even matter.........". But fo real tho, I wonder how these peeps gonna deal with their employers mandating vaccines and poo poo because that's where I see the most turnaround. Sometimes people are just plain lazy and if they meet a force so over powering, they will change their mind just because it's easier. Right now, denialism is still a loving easy stance to take and live with. I could see DeSantis and other chud governors pulling a "no u" and saying they'll subsidize wages of anyone fired for refusing the vaccine
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McNugget Buddy posted:Hahahahahaha OPEN THE VAXXGATES
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:HQC is at least people-medicine so I can kind of get why they were experimenting with it, but why the gently caress were scientists even testing horse anti-parasite medication on COVID in the first place? its similar mentality to whatever pfizer anti-viral is speeding towards phase 2 clinicial trials right now people are dusting off a bunch of molecules (both approved and experimental) with various anti-viral properties or COVID-specific inhibitions and testing them against the virus in vitro. Good stuff moves forward, occasionally pre-print invitro studies leak and its a currently in use drug for something else (ivermectin) and people go insane. please note, we have cured nearly every disease known to man in vitro and in animals. human studies are wildly different and why you should treat any data pre-clinical with a grain of salt.
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obviously the answer is to never try to understand a chud with brain worms, but it is literally insane to think they are convinced taking an animal dewormer is an any way more legitimate than an FDA approved vaccine given to like hundreds of millions of people.
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Crazyweasel posted:obviously the answer is to never try to understand a chud with brain worms, but it is literally insane to think they are convinced taking an animal dewormer is an any way more legitimate than an FDA approved vaccine given to like hundreds of millions of people. This is nothing new, my dad was an old school off-the-grid 1970s hippie who believed real medicine was fake and you could be healed through a grains-only diet, colloidal silver, and kombucha. (he died at 46 from a treatable brain tumor lol)
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Crazyweasel posted:obviously the answer is to never try to understand a chud with brain worms, but it is literally insane to think they are convinced taking an animal dewormer is an any way more legitimate than an FDA approved vaccine given to like hundreds of millions of people. Someone from Church me about it...
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gradenko_2000 posted:OPEN THE VAXXGATES
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Crazyweasel posted:obviously the answer is to never try to understand a chud with brain worms, but it is literally insane to think they are convinced taking an animal dewormer is an any way more legitimate than an FDA approved vaccine given to like hundreds of millions of people. Government bad, my Facebook feed good
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:This is nothing new, my dad was an old school off-the-grid 1970s hippie who believed real medicine was fake and you could be healed through a grains-only diet, colloidal silver, and kombucha. ur dad was steve jobs lol
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Crazyweasel posted:obviously the answer is to never try to understand a chud with brain worms, but it is literally insane to think they are convinced taking an animal dewormer is an any way more legitimate than an FDA approved vaccine given to like hundreds of millions of people. Just got off of a 3 day ban. Question-with ivermectin getting more popular and getting harder to find, I’m looking for alternatives. I recently purchased a nebulizer and HP 3%, and I brew colloidal silver. My plan is to use it in the desktop machine when Me and kids get sick. I’ve never used any of this stuff before. Never had any need. I also take vitamin D, zinc, melatonin, magnesium, quercitin, and a liquid multi vitamin. I’ve also started drinking flat tonic water with quinine. Bleh.. lol. I’ve also gone back to my childhood and picked up a jump rope, getting my heart rate up and feeling good. Will this be enough? I’m built pretty strong naturally so just curious. What else do I need if ivy is removed from the shelves? Also, has anyone seen the autopsy out of Singapore recommending Aspirin as the main treatment for Covid? Thoughts? Goes without saying, but I’m not a doctor, just looking for opinions.
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Long and short there was an old book called Back to Eden that advocated ignoring modern medicine and doing fruitarian diets and poo poo that got super popular and the late sixties / seventies and spawned generations of anti-vax / anti-medicine loonies.
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every loving story about "IS A NEW MOLECULE ABOUT TO CURE ALZHEIMERS???" is about invitro poo poo that is literally meaningless and there to juice stock prices hth
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the Communists are trying to scare us into another shutdown with all these outrageous stats, but the rebellion continues and is stronger than ever - fight back!
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euphronius posted:ur dad was steve jobs lol probably got his poo poo from the same place jerbs did
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fair point about that things can dramatically change in human studies, but it's pretty disingenuous to compare the pfizer protease inhibitor to HCQ. that inhibitor is like the full force of pfizer medchem designing against the SARS protease
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fuckin great https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1429796257493553162?s=19
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even if it was "rushed" what does that mean lol when you have to poop you sometimes rush to the bathroom. does that mean you didnt have to poop???>?
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I dont know her but i am assuming horrible liberal?
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Big pharma is hiding the truth and just trying to make more money with less effective experimental drugs
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All naty mf!
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Otter_Sauce posted:"In the end, it never even matter.........". But fo real tho, I wonder how these peeps gonna deal with their employers mandating vaccines and poo poo because that's where I see the most turnaround. Sometimes people are just plain lazy and if they meet a force so over powering, they will change their mind just because it's easier. Right now, denialism is still a loving easy stance to take and live with. Yeah, what I'll be watching for this week is how many organizations and employers announce they'll be mandating vaccination now that at least one shot has full FDA approval.
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if I had a kid under 12 right now I would 100% be doctor shopping to find someone willing to jab them off label
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:HQC is at least people-medicine so I can kind of get why they were experimenting with it, but why the gently caress were scientists even testing horse anti-parasite medication on COVID in the first place? Ivermectin is also people medicine given to millions of people in low doses just fine. The problem is a ton of people are buying the horse version instead of getting a doctor to prescribe them a safe, low dose just in case it helps , because they think going way higher on dose makes it a cure Imagine if bcg was at the farm store and you used a 100x sized shot for a horse and people were like hell, why not
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Crunchy Black posted:My O2 sats have never seriously recovered lol wtf
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Good Citizen posted:if I had a kid under 12 right now I would 100% be doctor shopping to find someone willing to jab them off label I'm calling my pediatrician right now
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euphronius posted:I dont know her but i am assuming horrible liberal? listen, she's saved hundreds, maybe thousansds of lives, by analyzing the connection between evidence of policy or whatever
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ahhhhhhh there it is. was a DoD push.
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