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Scratch Monkey posted:Some Catholics are upset that fetal stem cell lines were used to make the vaccine. Of course those cell lines are used to make lots of other medicines and vaccines, so...
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The problem with these idiots getting themselves deathly ill isn't really the fact they are getting sick. They made a dumbass choice and are suffering the consequences. I'd rather nobody get sick. But when it's directly because you chose to ignore rational thinking and science, that's on you. The awful thing is the family members, friends, co-workers, neighbors, and everyone else in their path who gets the plague because of them. It's not really a Boomer Remover when each one of them is likely getting a bunch of folks sick. Folks who didn't make the same ignorant choices.
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Aug 23, 2021 19:55
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oh god not the loving fetal tissue poo poo again (i have personal and frustrating experience with these rationales from cut off former friends and it still just makes me mad)
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Aug 23, 2021 20:00
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NecroBob posted:Semi-related question: This is unfortunately one of the things that varies state to state and even varies on lesser government levels. Sometimes it's difficult, most of the time you just say "my religion says no" and it's fine.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:00
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Sanguinia posted:and remember that their poo poo is endangering total innocents, and even if it wasn't its still not right to be PLEASED that they're dying. What? Of course it is. No more endangering total innocents. Every time I read about one of these people dying, it honestly brightens my day.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:00
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quote:Natural immunity surpasses this concoction these money grubbers came up with hands down. Gods creation is beyond our comprehension ...seriously stop and think what our bodies do every minute of every day . Well our bodies are pretty bad at fighting polio, tetanus and rabies without help from vaccines.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:01
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Twelve by Pies posted:Well our bodies are pretty bad at fighting polio, tetanus and rabies without help from vaccines. Wait until you hear about smallpox!
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Aug 23, 2021 20:05
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Scratch Monkey posted:Some Catholics are upset that fetal stem cell lines were used to make the vaccine. Of course those cell lines are used to make lots of other medicines and vaccines, so... Thing is, the mRNA vaccines weren't made using fetal stem cell lines. (The only connection they have is that a test used to validate the vaccines was originally developed using fetal stem cell lines.) Only the J&J shot was made using fetal stem cell lines, which makes it similar to the rubella shot (which the Catholic church has long encouraged administering to children, in spite of this objection). The Vatican, the US Conference of Bishops, and many various figures throughout the American Catholic church have made it clear that getting a COVID shot is not only permissible, it's arguably a moral obligation. Of course, this does not stop the many American Catholics who still make Facebook posts screaming about ground-up fetuses getting put in the shots and various Catholic bishops being in on a massive dead-baby coverup at the behest of the communist Pope Francis who was installed by the illuminati or some poo poo. I imagine it should stop Catholics from being able to claim a religious exemption, though.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:20
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Can Francis just sit on the Magic Pope Chair and declare that Vaccine Is Good under that "If the pope says it on the chair its the word of god," rule? That'd be nice.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:44
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Captain Log posted:The problem with these idiots getting themselves deathly ill isn't really the fact they are getting sick. They made a dumbass choice and are suffering the consequences. I'd rather nobody get sick. But when it's directly because you chose to ignore rational thinking and science, that's on you. And they are taking up space in hospitals, blocking access for people who took every precaution or have some other condition completely. Like by their own logic on women getting abortions they should be denied access to care.
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Aug 23, 2021 20:49
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Sanguinia posted:Can Francis just sit on the Magic Pope Chair and declare that Vaccine Is Good under that "If the pope says it on the chair its the word of god," rule? That'd be nice. Technically yes but papal bulls are kind of like the Queen of England.
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Aug 23, 2021 21:27
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They secretly run the world and are also lizards.
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Aug 23, 2021 21:30
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Xiahou Dun posted:Technically yes but papal bulls are kind of like the Queen of England. They had a lot more authority back when the pope commanded an army
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*in the most monotone voice possible (aka Ben Stein or Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka "No, don't")* wow, I am totally shocked that they went this way. it is so unexpected. whoever could possibly see this coming VitalSigns posted:Nobody is telling anybody to shoot themselves up with horse drugs; please stop spreading medical misinformation. Heh, Mississippi, shocker there.
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Aug 23, 2021 21:35
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Both of them have an unfortunate history with child sex crimes.
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Sanguinia posted:Can Francis just sit on the Magic Pope Chair and declare that Vaccine Is Good under that "If the pope says it on the chair its the word of god," rule? That'd be nice. Francis has already been as vocally pro-vaccine as he could be short of climbing into the magic chair with his magic stick to say the magic words in his magic hat, and even if he did, it wouldn't do a drat thing to get more shots in arms, at least not in the US. On the Venn diagram of American Catholics, the anti-vaxx/"not putting ground-up fetuses in MY body!" circle is almost entirely inside the anti-Francis/"not MY pope!" circle. The True Catholics who are sharing Facebook posts about dead babies in the vaccines are also the ones forwarding chain emails to each other about how this Marxist pope is ruining the church, and if you catch them doing this and try to point out that it seems they now find themselves a part of a long religious tradition founded on protestanting the pope, you're gonna get a slack-jawed stare as the irony sails right over their head. Let's see what the freepers have said lately about the pope. Who knows if these folks are Catholic, but speaking from experience, these sentiments are not hard to find among the hard-right and anti-vaxx populations in the American Catholic church. quote:Posted on 8/18/2021, 9:07:00 AM by Enlightened1 quote:To: Enlightened1 quote:To: Safrguns quote:To: Enlightened1 quote:To: Enlightened1 quote:To: Enlightened1 quote:To: Enlightened1
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I know their only real knowledge of nazis is "stock villain from war movie," but it's hilarious how often they talk about the Fourth Reich and the Holocaust and poo poo. Considering these are the people who'd be cheering on Zombie Hitler if Look Who's Back was real
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SocketWrench posted:*in the most monotone voice possible (aka Ben Stein or Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka "No, don't")* wow, I am totally shocked that they went this way. it is so unexpected. whoever could possibly see this coming Because of course taking medication for livestock is completely sane and rational. Unlike taking medications for humans. I'm sure none of this ivory tower big Pharma devil science went into creating those medications, either.
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Captain Log posted:Because of course taking medication for livestock is completely sane and rational. Unlike taking medications for humans. All big Pharma devils always test all animal medications on humans fully to make sure they are safe for human use they just don't license them to use on humans for "reasons". Oh I know, it's so they can charge more for other things or something. But capitalism is actually a good thing, and any restraint we put on these companies that are harboring life saving cures is bad. pseudanonymous fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I know their only real knowledge of nazis is "stock villain from war movie," but it's hilarious how often they talk about the Fourth Reich and the Holocaust and poo poo. Considering these are the people who'd be cheering on Zombie Hitler if Look Who's Back was real No, whats hilarious is when they talk about the Nazis In South America thing but they also love Bolsonaro, South America's biggest Nazi, because he's Trump's buddy
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Aug 24, 2021 00:08
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Twelve by Pies posted:Well our bodies are pretty bad at fighting polio, tetanus and rabies without help from vaccines. I mean, your body is amazing at fighting those things, you just have to get it fired up to do so first. Which is exactly what a vaccine does: it activates your body's natural defense mechanisms (that God made, I suppose).
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Aug 24, 2021 00:10
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Sanguinia posted:No, whats hilarious is when they talk about the Nazis In South America thing but they also love Bolsonaro, South America's biggest Nazi, because
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Aug 24, 2021 00:52
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Scratch Monkey posted:Some Catholics are upset that fetal stem cell lines were used to make the vaccine. Of course those cell lines are used to make lots of other medicines and vaccines, so... Pope tole them to suck it up so that's out.
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Aug 24, 2021 01:01
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The chuds are taking the Cyber Ninjas getting covid with dignity and class.  
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Hmm...the people we count on to get to the bottom of all the corruption we claim is happening end up being grifters. Could it be that we're gullible idiots? No, it's the DEEP STATE that's wrong!
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How do you know enough LotR to use it as a reference but not know loving Gandalf's name
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I'm loving how antifa became the new communism for them. Just assign whatever evil attributes to it without knowing what it is Sanguinia posted:No, whats hilarious is when they talk about the Nazis In South America thing but they also love Bolsonaro, South America's biggest Nazi, because he's Trump's buddy They'll never admit openly to it, but they love fascism. If it came to america in full force, so long as it was their guy in charge, they'd embrace it wholeheartedly without batting an eye. Kind of ironic given that most of their parents were the ones that had to stomp out fascism, there's no real generational gap that separates them
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SocketWrench posted:They'll never admit openly to it, but they love fascism. If it came to america in full force, so long as it was their guy in charge, they'd embrace it wholeheartedly without batting an eye. Kind of ironic given that most of their parents were the ones that had to stomp out fascism, there's no real generational gap that separates them If you think about it, it's the ultimate rebellion against your parents.
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Uh, fascism is already here and the Right has been solidly fascist for a number of years. Fascism is psychological as much as it is political and the current GOP openly rejected the concept of free and fair elections when they all voted to invalidate the election.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Pope tole them to suck it up so that's out. https://y.yarn.co/20ca4c23-e44c-4843-b1bb-84e11004dfde.mp4
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pseudanonymous posted:And they are taking up space in hospitals, blocking access for people who took every precaution or have some other condition completely. I don't agree that anyone sould be outright denied medical care, no matter how much of a bull-headed selfish piece of poo poo they are. I do, however, think that they should be put right at the back of the queue for resources that, if denied to them due to scarcity that comes as a result of their own actions in not getting the vaccine/wearing a mask etc, would then become a direct consequence of their own actions and not that of a mandate. As for how much or how little glee a person might feel watching them suffer those consequences, well, that's just an individual personal choice that no-one else has any business moralising over. I personally agree with the attitude of "gently caress 'em"
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Conditioning medical care on "personal responsibility" rather than need is unethical and I really wish I could stop hearing it from progressives.
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VitalSigns posted:Conditioning medical care on "personal responsibility" rather than need is unethical and I really wish I could stop hearing it from progressives. Sure, but so is these people going into a hospital after this, unless they're paying out of their own pocket. It's just less unethical than the alternative, and personal instead of societal. So it is better, but I am still allowed to be mad at those fucks for not just dying at home.
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VitalSigns posted:Conditioning medical care on "personal responsibility" rather than need is unethical and I really wish I could stop hearing it from progressives. I wish I'd stop hearing about how people "love all life" and "all lives matter" while actively trying to infect my sick father-in-law and kindergartner because we're leftist.
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VitalSigns posted:Conditioning medical care on "personal responsibility" rather than need is unethical and I really wish I could stop hearing it from progressives. There is a difference between more or less intentionally spreading a communicable disease that kills people who are unable to be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons and overloads the hospital capacity so that people who'd have a lower survival chance for other diseases are triaged into death and say getting heart disease because you're obese and haven't managed your caloric intake.
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DarkCrawler posted:Sure, but so is these people going into a hospital after this, unless they're paying out of their own pocket. It's just less unethical than the alternative, and personal instead of societal. So it is better, but I am still allowed to be mad at those fucks for not just dying at home. Yeah your personal emotional opinion is spot on. But in reality, even these heinous spiteful fuckos deserve to be triaged according to necessity. A sane healthcare system in a sane country doesn't have political or scientific opinion as a qualifier for who gets healthcare. e: now more than ever, what we really need is Fever Dream Leftist Obama and his breakdancing bodyguards forcibly hauling the antivaxxers in for their shots Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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I didn't mean to start a whole thing: let me reassure you all that hating the purposely unvaccinated people for being stupid assholes is not unethical.
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