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Drink-Mix Man posted:I still think they look good on Enterprise, just in the sense that it made the ship feel like a futuristic version of a 2000's space program. Oh agreed, but they do look a little silly with how you can tell they just glued keyboard keys around the bezels.
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Aces High posted:hey, why don't we do something fun, let's speculate: what could be some other "George Costanza, his penis shrivelled" = drat, it's cold out. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
It can work, but you have to go all-in on making it a deliberate design decision. 
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It definitely worked on Enterprise because they were obviously showing the monitors as monitors. Space Monitors, sure, but still monitors. It was a million times better as a design choice than the increasingly poor work on the TNG films.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Costanza, his penis shrivelled threaaaaad title
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Nemesis was so incredibly ugly Ugh.  Not to mention they used each of those little screens like once. Before Nemesis it looked like this:  (render, but accurate) And what they would've done on TNG is just composite in an animation of the buttons wiping away and the display showing what they needed. Which would've looked so much better, and for one shot would have to have been cheaper than rebuilding the consoles with LCDs built in and setting them up with driving computers. (Also, god, how much better does that purple and gold LCARS color scheme match up with the burgundy bridge than the nemesis ALL COMPUTERS ARE BLUE IN SCI-FI FUTURES look. If it didn't have the whole unstructured layout problem the Enterprise-E bridge might be my favourite just on that ambience) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Aug 22, 2021 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Oh agreed, but they do look a little silly with how you can tell they just glued keyboard keys around the bezels. Also they had this circle divot at the top of all the screens that I think was meant to be a camera maybe?  But really just made it look like an upside down Dell 
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they did successfully predict the embedding of cameras into every display in existence though e: ok the keyboard keys glued to the edge are silly but what really kills it for me is the green power LED (and possibly the monitor adjustment buttons underneath)
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Roadie posted:It definitely worked on Enterprise because they were obviously showing the monitors as monitors. Space Monitors, sure, but still monitors. It was a million times better as a design choice than the increasingly poor work on the TNG films. I looked up Nemesis's director and lord, what possessed the studio to think this guy could direct a Star Trek movie.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I looked up Nemesis's director and lord, what possessed the studio to think this guy could direct a Star Trek movie. They promised him a high profile movie directing opportunity as a payoff for him helping save a mission impossible in the edit, and then didn't really want to do they flogged him off on Nemesis, which pissed him off, so he didn't give much of a poo poo, and screwed the movie at the same time.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:they did successfully predict the embedding of cameras into every display in existence though "Mr Shoe, return fire to the Klingons and engage evasive manoeuvres beta-6!" "I'm trying captain, but it keeps asking me if I want a receipt and if I want to do another transaction." 
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5 episodes into Discovery and I hope the cinematographer or the cameramen or both die.
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8one6 posted:5 episodes into Discovery and I hope the cinematographer or the cameramen or both die. Sadly, they don't die. It does kind of calm down in season two though. Except I think season two has the ready room scene that literally made me motion sick.
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8one6 posted:5 episodes into Discovery and I hope the cinematographer or the cameramen or both die. No but see like there's no down in space so there's no down for our camera WHEEEEE
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Yeah I don't know who thought talking in a meeting could be jazzed up with a helical pan, but gently caress it's awful
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I like the camera spinny poo poo. Jangle those keys in front me, go nuts.
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primaltrash fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Aug 23, 2021 |
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Aug 23, 2021 00:27
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Oh god next week's episode is called "We’ll Always Have Tom Paris"
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I really like how this is a show made by people who love Star Trek. Boymler's little speech about how he likes that Riker plays the Trombone was so fun :3
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One thing I'm surprised lower decks hasn't done is bring back the skant.
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Ok, after 9 episodes I'm upgrading most of the characters from "I actively hate everyone" to "I don't care if they die".
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MikeJF posted:Oh god next week's episode is called "We’ll Always Have Tom Paris" MikeJF posted:One thing I'm surprised lower decks hasn't done is bring back the skant.  Let me reiterate MikeJF posted:Tom Paris MikeJF posted:skant.
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https://twitter.com/michelleparadis/status/1429837570381385729
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This reads goodbye-ish? Please don't pull an ENT on us
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Was season 3 worth watching at all?
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One of the writers already mentioned returning to the writer’s room for season 5 soon a few weeks ago, so it’s almost certainly just a “see you next season” thing.
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Arglebargle III posted:Was season 3 worth watching at all? It starts out ok but goes nowhere. Basically goes from “we are all alone in an all new timeframe and must rebuild the ideals of the shattered galactic community” to “ok time to whack a crime boss”
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Erulisse posted:This reads goodbye-ish? Or swerve…Discovery because Star Trek Titan
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Arglebargle III posted:Was season 3 worth watching at all? Its ok right up until the last couple of episodes, at which point it becomes the worst star trek. Including all of Voyager.
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barely made it through the first ep of Disco S03. why does the camera want me to puke so much?? why does every moment have to be so high intensity??? two people having a soft conversation doesnt need to have vamping music and shakey cam jesus
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punishedkissinger posted:barely made it through the first ep of Disco S03. why does the camera want me to puke so much?? why does every moment have to be so high intensity??? two people having a soft conversation doesnt need to have vamping music and shakey cam jesus They are compensating for a LOT of shortcomings Well, trying to
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Well it's not like the ambient sounds of Star Trek vessels are highly recognizable and universally beloved or anything, what are they gonna do
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they make all these whitenoise machines but none of them match up star trek ambient ship noise 12 hours youtube
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Arglebargle III posted:Was season 3 worth watching at all? Kind of yeah. As usual the overall plot never really lands but you can see good elements buried inside of the "really this is what you decided?" Like others have said, it works better on binging.
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Voyager: Author, Author is a pretty weird version of TNG: Data's Big Day At Trial or whatever. Holographic people don't have federation rights and the coward g-man at the end wasn't ready to make the inevitable, obvious conclusion. Instead they declared that the Doctor qualifies as an artist, but not a person. Which also means under Federation law, artists are no longer necessarily people, which may be some kind of weird self-burn to all those involved in writing Voyager? I really hope that if humanity ever gets to the point of making true AI via holograms and robots we immediately recognize how the obviously-people should be treated like people, since we've all grown up with media that continually brings up settled "debates" about the personhood of people. Then again, all of human history and also all of everything right now still fails to recognize people as being people when the only potential people to consider are basically genetically identical copies of the same human species.
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He's already an EMH, later an ECH, if he also became an LLC, then he could have the same rights a person. Problem solved.
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It's so odd the way they insist on quibbling about the physical form of various non biological life forms Oh Data is a person? Ok Exocomps are people too.... Ok fine. Holograms? Let's do this again... They're all just "computer programs", hasn't the proof of concept already been done? Why does it always seem to matter what shape housing you put them in
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Like, I know it's writers wanting to tell basically the same story over again and/or a lesson about spacism But ... C'mon Chief O'Brien and Worf serve with Data, know Lore, met exocomps, Moriarty, Lal... But Vic? He's "just a hologram"
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The Bloop posted:It's so odd the way they insist on quibbling about the physical form of various non biological life forms I guess my question about the whole "Oh, we have to recognize androids/exocomps/hologram personhood and give them the same rights we give everybody else." thing, putting aside ethical and moral questions, is why make them? If we want to make people who have full rights, there's a way to do it that's a lot more fun than programming. I mean, you're making holograms and robots and whatever as tools (unless you're Dr. Soong, I guess, who was just odd and really liked robots). Giving them rights seems to get in the way of that. As good as Measure of a Man was, it seems like the answer to Picard's accusation of "You want to build a race of slaves!" is just "Well, yes. Exactly. You've uncovered our not very secret plan. I mean, that's what 'robot' means."
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