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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Kreeblah posted:

That looks like one hell of a superspreader event.

Not at all? You have pretty decent distancing and it's outside?

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Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Tzen posted:

https://twitter.com/Vietgal1/status/1429713684960464896
lol what is this government action??
gently caress off gimme some of this

Look at these weaksauce losers for not playing CoD in a fortified firebase or not minigunning down fleeing civilians from a helicopter

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset




Quick take, Luna Oi! is cool as gently caress and you should check out her youtube channel.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


lol about Japan
We got caught up in the after affects of a typhoon at the end of our holiday there. It had affected the Tokyo area and we were down in Osaka but were flying back to Tokyo Narita airport to get our flight back to Australia. Our flight from Osaka was delayed but still went ahead and we landed to absolute chaos at Narita. All flights out delayed, public transport all cancelled, no taxis etc. So we sat around watching the board for info on our flight and trying in vain to find get any info beyond ‘your flight is delayed’. Hours passed, our original flight time had long gone and other flights had been cancelled while a handful including ours were still ‘delayed’ until it got to 9pm and all remaining flights were suddenly cancelled. We had to grab a random employees of the airline to find out where our bags were and get them back (they were in a random unlit corridor lol) and then found out that we weren’t being automatically rebooked onto another flight but would have to do that ourselves. As was everyone else, you could see the seats disappearing as you tried to book them. We very luckily got seats for a flight to Sydney via Brisbane but it was 24 hours away. We couldn’t leave the airport, the shops and restaurants except for MacDonalds were out of food and we had nowhere to sleep. And still flights had been landing during this time and a trickle of taxis and buses were arriving with people who had been in them for hours and hours stuck in traffic trying to get to the airport.
Eventually the airport staff handed out sleeping bags and some crackers and bottles of water and we slept on the concourse floor next to check in counter. Everyone pulled out their plug adapters and charged stuff behind the desks and tried to sleep.
Twenty four hours later we got on our flight and made it home. That was the last time we were on a plane too as it was September 2019 and a few months later the pandemic hit lmao.
Anyway, that was how we found out that Japan wasn’t super organised and pretended that disasters weren’t happening as they happened.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

genericnick posted:

Some years ago I went to a talk by that one Tokyo University professor that got briefly famous for posting Fukushima updates. And the one point that really stuck in my memory was how much the government had to be dragged kicking and screaming into measuring anything. Apparently if you don't look it can't be your fault. Apparently they apply the same philosophy to the pandemic and testing.

Let's not give the media here, which sometimes makes the US media look good by proxy, a free pass either.
I mean look at this just LOOK at this headline.

Asahi Shitbun posted:

Tokyo logs 2,447 new COVID-19 cases, down 515 from week ago
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14424069

Maybe it's because we're not testing (11k tests a day LOL I was WRONG - 2.5k LMAO)... nah... nah CASES ARE DOWN!



From here:
https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

VomitOnLino fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Aug 24, 2021

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1429961680084209681

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Just a little late night thought that the United States went so crazy from having a black guy get elected president that we have people eating horse medicine willingly now. Maybe not a straight line from Obama to ivermectin but it's all connected.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

net work error posted:

Just a little late night thought that the United States went so crazy from having a black guy get elected president that we have people eating horse medicine willingly now. Maybe not a straight line from Obama to ivermectin but it's all connected.

wrong: more accurately you could say it's a straight-line from jimmy carter's "malaise" speech telling americans they need to stop consuming so much because its unsustainable and then throwing a temper tantrum in a 48-state blowout for reagan immediately after.

really though it's more declining material conditions for the past 45+ years and intentional obfuscation of the fact that as material conditions continue to decline and alienation continuing to rise people get driven more insane. liberals being vile feckless monsters and conservatives doing the same and each trying to rally the rubes around impotent sideshows while propping up the neoliberal status quo and each pretending like the house isn't on fire.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

I just realized: Trump had the virus then got the vaccine. He's probably got big titers now.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

when I wake up the virus will be over thank you

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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genericnick posted:

Some years ago I went to a talk by that one Tokyo University professor that got briefly famous for posting Fukushima updates. And the one point that really stuck in my memory was how much the government had to be dragged kicking and screaming into measuring anything. Apparently if you don't look it can't be your fault. Apparently they apply the same philosophy to the pandemic and testing.

It's sheer luck Fukushima remained unscathed until 2011 with its paltry 5 meter tsunami barrier and diesel backup generators located below sea level

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Helith posted:

lol about Japan
We got caught up in the after affects of a typhoon at the end of our holiday there. It had affected the Tokyo area and we were down in Osaka but were flying back to Tokyo Narita airport to get our flight back to Australia. Our flight from Osaka was delayed but still went ahead and we landed to absolute chaos at Narita. All flights out delayed, public transport all cancelled, no taxis etc. So we sat around watching the board for info on our flight and trying in vain to find get any info beyond ‘your flight is delayed’. Hours passed, our original flight time had long gone and other flights had been cancelled while a handful including ours were still ‘delayed’ until it got to 9pm and all remaining flights were suddenly cancelled. We had to grab a random employees of the airline to find out where our bags were and get them back (they were in a random unlit corridor lol) and then found out that we weren’t being automatically rebooked onto another flight but would have to do that ourselves. As was everyone else, you could see the seats disappearing as you tried to book them. We very luckily got seats for a flight to Sydney via Brisbane but it was 24 hours away. We couldn’t leave the airport, the shops and restaurants except for MacDonalds were out of food and we had nowhere to sleep. And still flights had been landing during this time and a trickle of taxis and buses were arriving with people who had been in them for hours and hours stuck in traffic trying to get to the airport.
Eventually the airport staff handed out sleeping bags and some crackers and bottles of water and we slept on the concourse floor next to check in counter. Everyone pulled out their plug adapters and charged stuff behind the desks and tried to sleep.
Twenty four hours later we got on our flight and made it home. That was the last time we were on a plane too as it was September 2019 and a few months later the pandemic hit lmao.
Anyway, that was how we found out that Japan wasn’t super organised and pretended that disasters weren’t happening as they happened.

I mean in all fairness they did manage to get sleeping bags to people during a natural disaster. Doesn't sound like a high bar to clear, but I'm curious how many western countries would manage that.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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genericnick posted:

Not at all? You have pretty decent distancing and it's outside?

You're not going to have air conditioners blowing COVID around, but we already know that the Modi variant can spread from just passing by an infected person on the street (which is far less exposure than standing where an infected person just was in line). Australia already proved that.

I did miss the masks the first time I watched it, though, so that might keep it from seriously popping off. The whole thing still seems like it's exposing people to a lot more risk than it should, though.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1430044320090845185

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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VomitOnLino posted:

Let's not give the media here, which sometimes makes the US media look good by proxy, a free pass either.
I mean look at this just LOOK at this headline.

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14424069

Maybe it's because we're not testing (11k tests a day LOL I was WRONG - 2.5k LMAO)... nah... nah CASES ARE DOWN!



From here:
https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

That says "Tests conducted at medical institutions : 2,490 cases". Does that mean it ended up being 2,490 positive results? Because if that really is the total number of tests, and the number of positives was 2,447, that's one hell of a positivity rate, and Japan is gigafucked. Like, I can't think of anywhere else that has actually hit upper 90s for positivity.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Kreeblah posted:

That says "Tests conducted at medical institutions : 2,490 cases". Does that mean it ended up being 2,490 positive results? Because if that really is the total number of tests, and the number of positives was 2,447, that's one hell of a positivity rate, and Japan is gigafucked. Like, I can't think of anywhere else that has actually hit upper 90s for positivity.

That’s the official number of tests. I checked the Japanese. The English translation is a bit off.
I guess it should be noted that there’s also private tests which may or may not add to the infection total. Nobody knows for sure as the system is mega opaque.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

I don't think positivity rate is a relevant indicator when you are doing effectively zero testing

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
lol


lmao

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Solarin posted:

I don't think positivity rate is a relevant indicator when you are doing effectively zero testing

No, look how wrong you are.

Basically no tests are getting wasted on the healthy!
You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like!

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Kreeblah posted:

You're not going to have air conditioners blowing COVID around, but we already know that the Modi variant can spread from just passing by an infected person on the street (which is far less exposure than standing where an infected person just was in line). Australia already proved that.

I did miss the masks the first time I watched it, though, so that might keep it from seriously popping off. The whole thing still seems like it's exposing people to a lot more risk than it should, though.

I mean it's about as risky as going out to do your chores in any European city. Not without any risk of course, but still not that worrisome.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
my state is 71.5% vaccinated, if you ignore the folks who can't get vaccinated to calculate that percentage. certainly that means we can just go ahead and open schools, right? it should be safe with a high vaccination rate.
that makes total sense, seeing how schools are basically those folks we just ignored in our 71.5% vax rate mixing households like mad.

i could probably qualify for a BA in economics, i think. next week should be great.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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VomitOnLino posted:

That’s the official number of tests. I checked the Japanese. The English translation is a bit off.
I guess it should be noted that there’s also private tests which may or may not add to the infection total. Nobody knows for sure as the system is mega opaque.

Well . . . poo poo.

Solarin posted:

I don't think positivity rate is a relevant indicator when you are doing effectively zero testing

Possibly not when it's that hilariously low, no. A high positivity rate can indicate when you're severely loving up by not testing enough (since you'd normally have people who get a cold wanting to make sure they don't have COVID), but if you only have records of testing 2,500 people in loving Tokyo . . . yeah.

Loki Kunti
Mar 31, 2010

Please don't wear your mask for years. Take a new one if necessary. Thank you.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Delta-Wye posted:

my state is 71.5% vaccinated, if you ignore the folks who can't get vaccinated to calculate that percentage. certainly that means we can just go ahead and open schools, right? it should be safe with a high vaccination rate.
that makes total sense, seeing how schools are basically those folks we just ignored in our 71.5% vax rate mixing households like mad.

i could probably qualify for a BA in economics, i think. next week should be great.

Now, here's your 6-digit salary job for letting people die

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

And we sink
And we drown
And what is lost can never be found
Well, these arms did swim until the lungs pulled in
The panic was lost in a deep understanding
That you will see what is wrong with everything
What is wrong with you and me
They make all the right reasons to gently caress it up
You're gonna gently caress it up


WOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHJJJJJ

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Palladium posted:

Now, here's your 6-digit salary job for letting people die

i lmao everytime i think about how obvious it is the prc knows how bad this virus is for you and have continuously stamped it out, while we all go sterile.

owns

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

https://twitter.com/kath_krueger/status/1429972974493388808

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/rhinosoros/status/1430024004606234629

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


https://twitter.com/bridiewitton/status/1429579392741646337

sounds like a good time

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

how do i make my cat wear a mask too

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nclSVtSfIfM

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
positivity rate is a metric for whether you're doing enough testing. according to WHO advice, if more than 5% of your tests conducted are positive, then you need to do more testing

also, it doesn't work for purely reactive testing: people get exposed, or they manifest symptoms, and they get tested. Some of these people are going to be negative just from being exposed and actually having dodged COVID, while others are going to be negative because they don't have COVID despite similar symptoms, but if all your testing is voluntary, then you're almost certainly going to get more than a 5% positivity rate

so hitting the 5% mark also means you need to testing people regularly, and you need to be going out and testing people proactively, in order to get ahead of outbreaks, especially since asymptomatic spread is a thing

less than 3,000 tests for a city the size of Tokyo? that seems real bad

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


gradenko_2000 posted:

positivity rate is a metric for whether you're doing enough testing. according to WHO advice, if more than 5% of your tests conducted are positive, then you need to do more testing

also, it doesn't work for purely reactive testing: people get exposed, or they manifest symptoms, and they get tested. Some of these people are going to be negative just from being exposed and actually having dodged COVID, while others are going to be negative because they don't have COVID despite similar symptoms, but if all your testing is voluntary, then you're almost certainly going to get more than a 5% positivity rate

so hitting the 5% mark also means you need to testing people regularly, and you need to be going out and testing people proactively, in order to get ahead of outbreaks, especially since asymptomatic spread is a thing

less than 3,000 tests for a city the size of Tokyo? that seems real bad

yeah NSW which is 8 million people did 138,472 tests in the last 24 hours and we've been well over 100,000 tests a day for weeks now.
Our positivity rate yesterday was 0.55%

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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I doubt even Musk can replicate the feat of speedrunning Wuhan's COVID hospitals if he spends all his (mostly fictitious) wealth right now

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Trash Ops posted:

how do i make my cat wear a mask too

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Helith posted:

yeah NSW which is 8 million people did 138,472 tests in the last 24 hours and we've been well over 100,000 tests a day for weeks now.
Our positivity rate yesterday was 0.55%

let's see how the Philippines is doing:

* 12,067 new cases today
* 45,593 tests conducted
* 24.9% positivity

one-third as many tests as New Zealand, for a population that's over 12 times the size?

cool cool

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

HiHo ChiRho posted:

And we sink
And we drown
And what is lost can never be found
Well, these arms did swim until the lungs pulled in
The panic was lost in a deep understanding
That you will see what is wrong with everything
What is wrong with you and me
They make all the right reasons to gently caress it up
You're gonna gently caress it up


WOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHJJJJJ

Figure I'll also share the video where the song is performed in front of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping with a Rudy Giuliani cutout crowd surfing the crowd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXntnZLAGws

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

gonna have to try this with an Air Queen

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