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Firebert posted:Did I miss something about GotG Vol. 3 not following up on their post-credit scene from 2? Seems like that's where they were heading. It did, I'm just not hopeful on them following up on it. But I would love to be wrong! 
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Firebert posted:Did I miss something about GotG Vol. 3 not following up on their post-credit scene from 2? Seems like that's where they were heading. I think there was a tweet from Gunn at some point saying that was just a throw-in and wasn't the direction he was planning on taking Vol. 3. But who knows.
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When the multiverse gets in full swing, will the main universe be called the MCU and the multiverse something different like MCMU? I guess typically Marvel uses numbers for universe names.
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Aug 24, 2021 20:46
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AndyElusive posted:What If...Joss Whedon never directed The Avengers? Please, don't threaten me with a good time. New clip! I haven't checked but is Frank Grillo doing his voice acting? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSggmnmLYc
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Aug 24, 2021 21:07
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Rappaport posted:It did, I'm just not hopeful on them following up on it. But I would love to be wrong! Is there much point in bringing Him into a post-infinity stone MCU, though? I like the character fine, but I really think that window has closed.
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Aug 24, 2021 21:10
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Yakmouth posted:Is there much point in bringing Him into a post-infinity stone MCU, though? I like the character fine, but I really think that window has closed. Let's be real here. Him, meh. But the FULL SPLENDOR AND GLORY OF DOOM? I want that injected straight into my veins. And purple horned Galactus, well, I would really want to see that adapted to the MCU in a way where he isn't climate change or whatever personified.
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Aug 24, 2021 21:25
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Desperado Bones posted:Please, don't threaten me with a good time. Yeah, Grillo is supposedly in a couple episodes this season.
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Aug 24, 2021 21:39
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Yakmouth posted:Is there much point in bringing Him into a post-infinity stone MCU, though? I like the character fine, but I really think that window has closed. I don't think we're really "post infinity stones". WandaVision kinda heavily hinted that the energy of the stones is still out there, Loki showed us there's a bunch around, and Eternals seems like its got Cellestials. I dunno if they're gonna be a major plot point or if there's anything for Warlock to do but I don't think Endgame takes them out of the equation by itself. But I also assume he was mostly an easter egg so I have no idea if Gunn has any future plans for him and I'm pretty confident there's not larger MCU plans for him.
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STAC Goat posted:I don't think we're really "post infinity stones". WandaVision kinda heavily hinted that the energy of the stones is still out there, Loki showed us there's a bunch around, and Eternals seems like its got Cellestials. I dunno if they're gonna be a major plot point or if there's anything for Warlock to do but I don't think Endgame takes them out of the equation by itself. I thought the energy of the stones would coalesce again at some point (probably somewhere convenient to a future movie, if/when they want to revisit them). Since each "element" is intrinsic to the universe, if they were truly gone the universe would unravel, at least that's what I vaguely remember from what the Ancient One and Banner were talking about. Thanos destroyed them "down to their last atoms" but he didn't destroy their energy. Or I'm talking out of my butt and when Loki returns to the movies he'll have a couple of them tucked in his pockets.
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I forgot that Thanos crushed the Eye of Agamotto to get the stone out of it. I wonder what's the deal with that being back. I get that it doesn't light up green ever in the trailer, but still... And yeah, there are lots of stones out there now that the multiverse is a thing.
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As Nero Danced posted:I thought the energy of the stones would coalesce again at some point (probably somewhere convenient to a future movie, if/when they want to revisit them). Since each "element" is intrinsic to the universe, if they were truly gone the universe would unravel, at least that's what I vaguely remember from what the Ancient One and Banner were talking about. Thanos destroyed them "down to their last atoms" but he didn't destroy their energy. Yeah. Like I can see it becoming a thing where like the energy is all loose now. Wanda's got too much of it, Vision's "soul" is all wrapped up in some of it, maybe Captain Marvel has a hassle with hers. And maybe like the resolution is that Strange or the Eternals or someone has to recreate the stones (or just grab some from Loki's desk) to contain the energy or something. But I dunno. I also am talking out of my butt.
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Jerusalem posted:My favorite part of that Spider-Man trailer (aside from ALFRED MOLINA IS BACK It ain't called the "Parker luck" for nothin'
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mutata posted:I forgot that Thanos crushed the Eye of Agamotto to get the stone out of it. I wonder what's the deal with that being back. I get that it doesn't light up green ever in the trailer, but still... I don't know if this is a thing in the MCU, but it's very much a point in the comics that although there are infinity stones in many universes, they're useless outside of their home reality, as their power is only over the intrinsic nature of their own universe.
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STAC Goat posted:I don't think we're really "post infinity stones". WandaVision kinda heavily hinted that the energy of the stones is still out there, Loki showed us there's a bunch around, and Eternals seems like its got Celestials. I dunno if they're gonna be a major plot point or if there's anything for Warlock to do but I don't think Endgame takes them out of the equation by itself. I think that for the most part we are past them. The point of the Mind stone in WandaVision was that it didn't so much give Wanda her powers as that it revealed/unsealed them. It's why she still has powers after Thanos destroyed the Stones. As for Loki, the big point of him finding those stones and other artifacts in somebody's junk drawer was to drive home "Yeah, we don't give nearly as much of a poo poo about the magic rocks as we used to." Granted that there might be a scene with Loki knocked on Strange's door and tossing him a Time Stone with a "You're going to need this going forward" and Time Dooring out. mutata posted:I forgot that Thanos crushed the Eye of Agamotto to get the stone out of it. I wonder what's the deal with that being back. I get that it doesn't light up green ever in the trailer, but still...
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A.o.D. posted:I don't know if this is a thing in the MCU, but it's very much a point in the comics that although there are infinity stones in many universes, they're useless outside of their home reality, as their power is only over the intrinsic nature of their own universe. Yeah they made a point to mention this in Loki
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boz posted:Yeah they made a point to mention this in Loki And in Endgame they use the stones from other timelines in their home timeline?? That doesn't quite compute for me
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boz posted:Yeah they made a point to mention this in Loki They don't. They only say they don't work IN the TVA. We still dunno if the stones can be taken and be given like candy. Remember that the MCU doesn't follow the comics to the letter.
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HOMOEROTIC JESUS posted:And in Endgame they use the stones from other timelines in their home timeline?? That doesn't quite compute for me The big thing in Endgame was that they were explicitly making a loop so that everything still happened in one timeline, with Bruce laying out to the Ancient One that by returning the stones to their original times/places after using them they wouldn't be branching to a new timeline. In Loki, the TVA claimed that the Avengers going back in time was MEANT to happen and that the only aberration was Loki escaping which they punished HIM for doing. So the stones were the exact same ones that Thanos would end up using to cause the snap, not knowing they'd already been used to undo it 5 years later (which makes him destroying them to prevent them from undoing what he did cause the Avengers to go back in time and successfully undo what he did in the first place!). Tony explicitly telling Steve that they could use the stones to bring everybody back to NOW but not undo everything that happened in the last 5 years (and thus his daughter) was, unknown to him, the exact thing he probably needed to say to avoid TVA intervention from happening (also because that part of the MCU hasn't been written and didn't exist yet!).
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Yeah, as far as dumbshit time travel babble goes, it's pretty ok. I can at least accept all that and move on. I'm surprised they've been able to do as much as they have with the time travel plots so far, frankly.
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For me, the difference between this latest Spidey movie and the Eternals is that this seems actually fun I can't describe why but the Eternals just gives me a "this is going to be a slog" vibe, maybe the color palette, dunno Although Suicide Squad 2 had a somewhat "serious" color palette and that was fun as heck edit: ShangChi ain't much better in the "this looks entertaining" department, seems like a very standard movie but I'll wait until I see it
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Everyone posted:I think that for the most part we are past them. The point of the Mind stone in WandaVision was that it didn't so much give Wanda her powers as that it revealed/unsealed them. It's why she still has powers after Thanos destroyed the Stones.
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Barreft posted:Strange is Mephisto mutata posted:Happy is Mephisto. You thought the M in MCU stood for Marvel? Everyone is Mephisto.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:For me, the difference between this latest Spidey movie and the Eternals is that this seems actually fun I can't really tell what it's about. Is there a villain? Someone or something they're fighting or trying to prevent? What are the conflicts between the characters, exactly? Something something deviants, I guess? Without any of that being clear, I can't really grab ahold of any stakes, like there's nothing for me to care about. I imagine it'll work in the movie, and hopefully it won't just be a three hour documentary on the history of the Eternals hanging out with humanity throughout history without ever really getting involved, but the trailers give a little bit of that vibe. And then at the end they team up and blow up an army of CG
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XboxPants posted:I can't really tell what it's about. Is there a villain? Someone or something they're fighting or trying to prevent? What are the conflicts between the characters, exactly? Something something deviants, I guess? Without any of that being clear, I can't really grab ahold of any stakes, like there's nothing for me to care about. Maybe they'll confront the Celestial(?) that gave them the no-interference order? Other than that I got nothing.
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Like I said, the seemingly intentional vagueness of what the point is keeps me intrigued that they're hiding something. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe its just a dull idea they know is dull so they're being vague and I'm just rationalizing. But the Eternals feel a little too random and a little too linked to Thanos/Infinity Stons that I'm looking for the unexplained second act twist.
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Barreft posted:Strange is Mephisto I share this theory and also have an evidence free supposition that Shang-Chi, No Way Home, and Dr. Strange 2 all take place in the same week like a new take on "Fury's Big Week" block of movies.
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Barreft posted:Strange is Mephisto I didn't think Mephisto had anything to do with WandaVision at any point, but it seems pretty air tight here, whether literally or just thematically.
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Mephisto, Yoda is.
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I honestly never knew so many people gave a poo poo about Mephisto until this year when people wouldn't stop bringing him up. I wish there was online betting on which characters will be mentioned/appear in upcoming movies. I just want to see the odds. Then I can know when the time is right to start pushing Mister Sinister theories nonstop.
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What if it’s actually Bono’s “MacPhisto” persona?
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XboxPants posted:I can't really tell what it's about. Is there a villain? Someone or something they're fighting or trying to prevent? What are the conflicts between the characters, exactly? Something something deviants, I guess? Without any of that being clear, I can't really grab ahold of any stakes, like there's nothing for me to care about. I’m 100% confident that Eternals is going to have a more or less typical superhero plot, complete with a 3rd act CGI final confrontation. I’m also expecting the usual suspects to rag on it for being nothing more than bog-standard ‘capeshit’, regardless of the quality of the film. A also expect I’ll enjoy it because I’m a Neanderthal who likes pretty much everything marvel makes. But I do think it could be cool (and box office suicide) if this was the film that broke away from the norm and was just about a bunch of immortal Demi-gods floating through history and dealing with the trauma of knowing they could stop all these catastrophic events, if only they were allowed to step in. How do they cope? How do they interact with humanity over the millennia? There are some excellent films that deal with themes like that, and Zhao is exactly the kind of director to pull it off. It’ll never happen, of course. But would it really be terrible if it did?
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Ror posted:I honestly never knew so many people gave a poo poo about Mephisto until this year when people wouldn't stop bringing him up. I don't think it reflects some deep Mephisto fandom so much as just the fact that WandaVision and No Way Home take from stories featuring Mephisto and have the room for people to speculate about him playing games. If the next thing they show us is a FF trailer with Doom reaching into hell then they're either setting up the next big bad or intentionally loving with us.
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Yakmouth posted:I’m 100% confident that Eternals is going to have a more or less typical superhero plot, complete with a 3rd act CGI final confrontation. I’m also expecting the usual suspects to rag on it for being nothing more than bog-standard ‘capeshit’, regardless of the quality of the film. A also expect I’ll enjoy it because I’m a Neanderthal who likes pretty much everything marvel makes. No, not at all. At the very least it would be visually entertaining. I welcome some less down to earth, more conceptual, cosmic poo poo like this. I was just saying that, for the poster who felt Eternals looked kinda meh but they weren't really able to express why, that I think this may be why. We don't really have anything to connect with emotionally yet. But, give it time. I'm sure we'll start hearing a lot more after Shang Chi. STAC Goat posted:I don't think it reflects some deep Mephisto fandom so much as just the fact that WandaVision and No Way Home take from stories featuring Mephisto and have the room for people to speculate about him playing games. If the next thing they show us is a FF trailer with Doom reaching into hell then they're either setting up the next big bad or intentionally loving with us. Interesting note, while looking up Eternals info on who the villain is speculated to be, toy leaks indicate that it will be Kro. I didn't know who that is but I guess he's the Deviant who has, in human history, masqueraded as the Devil, Satan, Pluto, etc. And just straight up looks like The Devil.  Well, I'm sure that's just a coincidence. XboxPants fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Aug 25, 2021 |
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