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TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Pile Of Garbage posted:

Homelessness mainly, of which indigenous people are a large majority. Yagan Square is actually very new, created when they sunk the train lines from Perth station next to it. That said homelessness is still a big thing in four blocks in any direction of that location.

I personally have noticed a lot more people shooting-up on the street. There really needs to be shooting galleries setup in the CBD it's a big problem.

The closest thing they have is those button activated / timed toilet cubicles but I don't think they have sharps containers.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Pile Of Garbage posted:

Is it bad if you spend ages waiting between jabs?

Edit: good poo poo thanks Anime Dave vvv

Unless it's changed very recently, Pfizer is optimal at 8, AZ is optimal at 12. I'm not sure about the comparative effecacy reduction on reducing from optimal interval, though, it may be that Pfizer doesn't drop as much as AZ with the shorter wait given how common the 4 week interval is. I remember seeing some studies a few months ago showing AZ drops hard when tested at 6.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Aug 24, 2021

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

bell jar posted:

I don't know anything about Perth, is that area a sex worker hotspot? Or a homelessness hotspot? Or just a series of very unfortunate incidents happening to people who are indigenous?

It's right in the middle of the CBD, where a majority of the homelessness services are concentrated.

What's happening is two things:

Firstly, there's an explosion in homelessness. Rents have skyrocketed, the COVID protections for tenants have disappeared, there's very little new public housing being made available (all of which is going to the most needy, and since there's so much need, that bar is being raised ever higher and higher), and aboriginal people face astounding housing discrimination. Homeless shelters are generally some mix of full, scary, dangerous, infectious, patronising, needlessly cruel, or run by religious nutters. Rent assistance/the dole doesn't even factor in here - it's not enough to get a private rental, or when it is, it's away from public transport, services, friends, family, etc.

Secondly, there's been an anti-homeless people sentiment (ugh). Case in point, the Mayor of Perth, Basil Zempilas, who ran on a platform of literally running the homeless out of the CBD. Because how dare they want access to all the services located in the city centre, right folks?! Clearly he's not the only one, though, because in recent years councils, the public transit authority and various landowners have been doing various things to discourage people from sleeping on properties or on land for which they're responsible or to otherwise encourage them to move them on. This has lead to the traditionally more sheltered areas homeless people could previously rely on as a reasonably sheltered (or at least safer) place to sleep at night (e.g. beneath the Lord St bridge in East Perth) becoming fenced off or otherwise made inaccessible or inhospital to these people.

So the homless of the CBD now have two choices - find one of the vanishingly few quasi-sheltered places to sleep that's out of the way, probably somewhere you'll be less likely to be asked to move on (but land up aggravatingly far away from services you need), or sleep in a reasonably high-trafficked area near the services you are using every day where you will be safe(r than you may be otherwise), but also exposed to the elements. As a woman, I can definitely understand the appeal of sleeping in a highly-trafficked/patrolled public space over crossing your fingers and hoping nobody else finds or follows you to the quiet, dark, out-of-the-way place you sleep at night. Additionally, Yagan Square's busport opens early enough a person who's spent the night on the street could feasibly go inside to warm up a little and few would notice.

The situation is such in the Perth CBD there's minimal shelter, anywhere that would otherwise be suitable is either already taken or has loving spikes and railings and other bullshit installed to keep people from sleeping safely there, and the Perth CBD is already a wind tunnel. When society removes the conditions the local homeless people rely on to get through the night safely, the homeless people die. That's it.

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

froglet posted:

This has lead to the traditionally more sheltered areas homeless people could previously rely on as a reasonably sheltered (or at least safer) place to sleep at night (e.g. beneath the Lord St bridge in East Perth) becoming fenced off or otherwise made inaccessible or inhospital to these people.



I loving hate that we don't support the homeless more. Honestly nobody should have to sleep rough, we can do way better as a society.

But you do your argument a disservice with this one; this encampment was getting to the point where they were blocking the only pedestrian/bike thoroughfare into the city along there and I was threatened and spat on multiple times for daring to simply ride into work.
The detour was about 3km to avoid it.

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

norp posted:

I loving hate that we don't support the homeless more. Honestly nobody should have to sleep rough, we can do way better as a society.

But you do your argument a disservice with this one; this encampment was getting to the point where they were blocking the only pedestrian/bike thoroughfare into the city along there and I was threatened and spat on multiple times for daring to simply ride into work.
The detour was about 3km to avoid it.

Oh I'm quite familiar with the area, I used to ride my bike through there every weekday on my way to work and copped a handful of threats, though admittedly I haven't done so in a while.

That happening underlines my point: Since so many different parts of the city are using hostile architecture to keep the homeless out, and the number of homeless has gone way up, what ends up happening is the disadvantage concentrates in the one spot and spirals out of control, which is what happened at the Lord St bridge.

It's a vicious cycle - the council/landholders do something to discourage the homeless, the homeless then move on to the next available area that isn't entirely awful to them, but now there's more of them due to a double whammy of low housing availability and the other places they'd previously stay being rendered inaccessible or inhospitable by the aforementioned councils and landholders. So the council/landholders do something to discourage the homeless...

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Probable sovereign citizen/obviously mentally ill person breaks into WA

47-year-old woman has been remanded in custody to serve 14 days' quarantine after allegedly speeding through a checkpoint at Western Australia's border with South Australia and ramming a police car.  

Just after 10 o'clock Monday morning, Brenda Elena Bleazard allegedly led police on a dramatic high-speed chase while driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan.

Police said she reversed her caravan at speed into a police car, tried to run over an officer who was approaching her car on foot and threw a large jar full of petrol at an officer before trying to light it on fire

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Eediot Jedi posted:

Probable sovereign citizen/obviously mentally ill person breaks into WA

47-year-old woman has been remanded in custody to serve 14 days' quarantine after allegedly speeding through a checkpoint at Western Australia's border with South Australia and ramming a police car.  

Just after 10 o'clock Monday morning, Brenda Elena Bleazard allegedly led police on a dramatic high-speed chase while driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan.

Police said she reversed her caravan at speed into a police car, tried to run over an officer who was approaching her car on foot and threw a large jar full of petrol at an officer before trying to light it on fire

Look it’s been 57 years so it’s only understandable that people will take the necessary steps to get to the grand final

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Pile Of Garbage posted:

Is it bad if you spend ages waiting between jabs?

Edit: good poo poo thanks Anime Dave vvv

We are literally becoming more like America with astroturfing via sketchy polling companies.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Eediot Jedi posted:

Probable sovereign citizen/obviously mentally ill person breaks into WA

47-year-old woman has been remanded in custody to serve 14 days' quarantine after allegedly speeding through a checkpoint at Western Australia's border with South Australia and ramming a police car.  

Just after 10 o'clock Monday morning, Brenda Elena Bleazard allegedly led police on a dramatic high-speed chase while driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan.

Police said she reversed her caravan at speed into a police car, tried to run over an officer who was approaching her car on foot and threw a large jar full of petrol at an officer before trying to light it on fire

Notably she would not stop demanding they let her leave Australia.

She was trying to leave Australia via caravan.

Hashy
Nov 20, 2005

To go home to her small self-declared sovereign nation yes

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

Konomex posted:

.She was trying to leave Australia via caravan.
I had to look it up. The Principality of Hutt River dissolved last year, Brenda is gonna have egg on her face when she fronts up before the magistrate!

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

lol 1000 cases by Friday

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Curve Status: Unflattened

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Eediot Jedi posted:

Probable sovereign citizen/obviously mentally ill person breaks into WA

47-year-old woman has been remanded in custody to serve 14 days' quarantine after allegedly speeding through a checkpoint at Western Australia's border with South Australia and ramming a police car.  

Just after 10 o'clock Monday morning, Brenda Elena Bleazard allegedly led police on a dramatic high-speed chase while driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan.

Police said she reversed her caravan at speed into a police car, tried to run over an officer who was approaching her car on foot and threw a large jar full of petrol at an officer before trying to light it on fire

This is pretty funny footage though.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

ShoeFly posted:

lol 1000 cases by Friday

At least they didn't skip the nine hundreds.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

This is pretty funny footage though.

Up until I saw the bit of flame fly over the bonnet, yeah. I was wondering why the cop had an extinguisher with them.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Eediot Jedi posted:

At least they didn't skip the nine hundreds.

Up until I saw the bit of flame fly over the bonnet, yeah. I was wondering why the cop had an extinguisher with them.

Apparently she was throwing molotovs

well, brain worm versions of molotovs

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

If I can take it back to Canavan and his tweet re: The Wiggles for a sec.

And I'm sorry if this is/has been blindingly obvious to everyone else but me. But I understand what he is doing with it, and what others have done similarly in the past.

You see The Wiggles having a non-white or female member is not new, or even news worthy. No one gives a poo poo. Not even the vast majority of conservative Liberal voters care that The Wiggles now(sic) have an Asian person doing the funny silly kiddie songs.

But when Canavan tweets out his "go woke go broke" soundbyte, THAT becomes the news. So Canavan gets himself in the papers, and gets himself in the papers as being a good conservative.

Also, given that the factual truth of what he is railing against wouldn't bother even the most conservative dyed in the wool Liberal voter, through a game of Social Media Telephone, the story gets told, and re told, and re told and half heard then retold again through someones auntie Beryl etc. until it becomes canon that The Wiggles are now all drag queens forcing kids to sing songs about how White People are all evil and communism is the only way. So this workes in his favour, because he now has all his supporters going "it's good that Matt Canavan is fighting against this sort of horrible PC gone mad culture when no one else is."

And when confronted with facts about "It's only an Asian Wiggle.", the supporters, already riled up against the imaginary strawman go "Yeah, that's fine, but he is not fighting against Jeff the Purple Wiggle, he is fighting against the Trans-Antifa-Climate-Terrorist-Socialist agenda that is rooly trooly there."

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

BrigadierSensible posted:

If I can take it back to Canavan and his tweet re: The Wiggles for a sec.

And I'm sorry if this is/has been blindingly obvious to everyone else but me. But I understand what he is doing with it, and what others have done similarly in the past.

You see The Wiggles having a non-white or female member is not new, or even news worthy. No one gives a poo poo. Not even the vast majority of conservative Liberal voters care that The Wiggles now(sic) have an Asian person doing the funny silly kiddie songs.

But when Canavan tweets out his "go woke go broke" soundbyte, THAT becomes the news. So Canavan gets himself in the papers, and gets himself in the papers as being a good conservative.

Also, given that the factual truth of what he is railing against wouldn't bother even the most conservative dyed in the wool Liberal voter, through a game of Social Media Telephone, the story gets told, and re told, and re told and half heard then retold again through someones auntie Beryl etc. until it becomes canon that The Wiggles are now all drag queens forcing kids to sing songs about how White People are all evil and communism is the only way. So this workes in his favour, because he now has all his supporters going "it's good that Matt Canavan is fighting against this sort of horrible PC gone mad culture when no one else is."

And when confronted with facts about "It's only an Asian Wiggle.", the supporters, already riled up against the imaginary strawman go "Yeah, that's fine, but he is not fighting against Jeff the Purple Wiggle, he is fighting against the Trans-Antifa-Climate-Terrorist-Socialist agenda that is rooly trooly there."

It's virtue signalling and everything is always projection.

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
Culture war distracts from class war.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Lol the DHHS booking website has been down for 24 hours now and the phone line hangs up on you, I really picked the worst time to get my first jab

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
They licensed a Hispanic Wiggles like fifteen year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3ibvSkSdQ

It's some tiresome poo poo, girls in Star Wars, n-words in the Wiggles, girls not having big jiggly titties in video games. None of these freaks actually care about any of these weird peccadillos they're just gormlessly trying to appeal to a base that doesn't appreciably exist

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Aug 25, 2021

Seemlar
Jun 18, 2002
Canavan's just transparently angling himself to fill the George Christensen shaped hole the is LNP is going to have when he's finished coasting out his term

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

The Peccadillo posted:

They licensed a Hispanic Wiggles like fifteen year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3ibvSkSdQ

I love the Yellow Wiggle's filthy mo.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

droll posted:

Culture war distracts from class war.

:hmmyes:


hooman posted:

It's virtue signalling and everything is always projection.

And it's going to have zero impact outside of his electorate. The Wiggles are bigger than Australia.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

freebooter posted:

Lol the DHHS booking website has been down for 24 hours now and the phone line hangs up on you, I really picked the worst time to get my first jab

Didn’t you decide not to get AZ when you had the chance and decided to wait?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Comstar posted:

Didn’t you decide not to get AZ when you had the chance and decided to wait?
This isn't a cool thing to say

go_banana
Oct 13, 2010

Comstar posted:

Didn’t you decide not to get AZ when you had the chance and decided to wait?

I think he followed the ATAGI advice for his location and age group :)

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Correct, I did, and my annoyance atm is that I was waiting in line for my first Pfizer jab as Andrews announced it was more broadly eligible to my age group, and in the 15 minute waiting area afterwards we were only given a QR code and an instruction to book our second dose online - no option to do it manually with any of the staff there - and of course the website had already melted down and remains melted down.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...
As if anyone needed this to be checked but I'm glad they did:

quote:

Gladys Berejiklian says Sydney's lockdown conditions are harsher than any of those previously imposed in other states. Is she correct?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/gladys-berejiklian-sydney-lockdown-harshest-fact-check/100390380

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
https://nswhvam.health.nsw.gov.au/vam

Following that, answering all questions honestly brings up this:



Yeah I'll just ignore that and do whatever the most corrupt political sociopaths who are desperate to preserve their image would recommend.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Comstar posted:

Didn’t you decide not to get AZ when you had the chance and decided to wait?

You need to learn when to shut the hell up, Comstar.

perepelki
Dec 11, 2020

know before Whom you stand
https://twitter.com/AmyThunig/status/1430405429113225225

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Eediot Jedi posted:

Strong Wiggles opinions in this thread nominally for adults.
Please don't mention ponies.

perepelki posted:

the protester guy punching the horse is the most powerful image of our time
I think it's great that hitting horses is now considered unacceptable. About time. Oh, only Police horses....

Alf Deon Eades, a 46-year-old Noongar man, was allegedly attacked by other prisoners and found critically injured in his prison cell on 26 February 2019. He died in hospital 13 days later. His injuries included a broken neck, severe brain swelling, and facial fractures and lacerations. Six prisoners charged with murder have pleaded not guilty and will stand trial later this year.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody, force used.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

perepelki posted:

Friendly reminder that if you live in so-called-Australia you’re on stolen, unceded, Aboriginal land

who cares

perepelki posted:

Aboriginal peoples are more vulnerable to covid & there’s now Elders hospitalised with it.

that sucks and we should get those people vaccinated as a priority

perepelki posted:

I prioritise Indigenous lives & communities over footy games, & so should you

again, who cares

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

so-called-Australia indeed

Aware
Nov 18, 2003
Pack it up lads, time to go home.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

bell jar posted:

who cares
stop being a dickhead

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica
Gladys eyeing September like

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


still wrapping my head around why the pm thought The Croods was a cultural touchstone worth acknowledging

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Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

I booked for AZ as soon as I was able to using a hospital/clinic through the Victorian state app. I didn't want anything less formal than that because I wanted whoever was going to give me medical advice before the jab to see my full medical record. Its about as long as one of the Three Stooges' at this point.

I get around by PT and my bike so I also needed something close to Prahran. I got in a (then) 2.5 week away appointment at Sandringham hospital. Now it turns out I'll be offered Pfizer instead? That's pretty cool.

Also I just re-read Morrison's Croods speech and... it's 1 to 1 the ''Puppy Who Lost his Way'' bit from Billy Madison.

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