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Whitey Snipes posted:Hopefully interceptors are still largely the same. haha They aren't. No longer naturally nullified, you'll have to equip a module and remember to activate it at the right times now.
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Whitey Snipes posted:Hmm, I sent the email on Wednesday and nothing yet. Did you check the corp tab to see if you have an invite there?
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LiberalExtinction posted:haha Fighting LV in the south predates interdiction nullification entirely. iirc the relevant interceptor change for them is "every race has a good one now."
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It's sometimes hard to believe that next Monday will mark 28 days since PAPI fell apart. A lot of regoonquista has taken place since then. And a lot of ratting.Bob Socko posted:Black Ops have been incredibly useful these past few weeks, throwing bombers all over the place to blow up structures. They're also really helpful to bounce around within the region until we get jump bridges established in a couple more weeks. There are a few helpful people in the various pockets who can bridge you back and forth to get back to 1DQ from ratting destinations.
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Aug 27, 2021 15:29
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GSV gently caress Your God posted:Coming back after 12 years, my immediate impressions have been that the UI is much improved and how ops are run is way better. To expand on the ops part, it's been great to get in a fleet, wait maybe 5 minutes for numbers, and then go to wherever we're going and do it. In the old days, it would be more like an hour before it started moving. The organization and tempo of things is so much improved.
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Aug 27, 2021 16:07
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Dik Hz posted:Whoever is responsible for this cultural change is the hero of goonfleet. Going from ping->action in <5 minutes pretty much every time makes joining fleets a much more positive experience. Its basically too fast. Makes sense after its explained though.
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Aug 27, 2021 16:12
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Until a month ago, defense ops were even faster. Get ping > login > undock > warp to already engaged fleet and start shooting. Ping was 10 mins ago? Too late bro, we're already looting the field.
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Aug 27, 2021 16:12
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Sickening posted:Its basically too fast. Makes sense after its explained though. Organizing boosts fast enough is hard too. Usually I'm just like "uhh I undocked with skirm boosts, I hope everyone else didn't do the same."
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Aug 27, 2021 16:17
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raminasi posted:Fighting LV in the south predates interdiction nullification entirely. iirc the relevant interceptor change for them is "every race has a good one now." Yeah, I was gonna say that they weren't nullified back in my day and pretty much everyone flew Claws or Crows. Raptors and Stilettos were a punchline.
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Aug 27, 2021 16:28
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The solution is obviously to have 70 doctrine ships, each named according to their use and how fast you need them undocked.
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Whitey Snipes posted:Yeah, I was gonna say that they weren't nullified back in my day and pretty much everyone flew Claws or Crows. Raptors and Stilettos were a punchline. CCP did a whole set of changes to try to make every ship useful for something, at least in theory. There aren't supposed to be any punchline ships anymore, period. (Feroxes are one of our most popular doctrines! Feroxes!)
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I might come back after finally taking a bit of a break. What'd I miss in those two weeks?
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Still waiting for the Hyperion doctrine.
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Phlegmish posted:I might come back after finally taking a bit of a break. What'd I miss in those two weeks? Someone's panther alt is getting Hulk kills.
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Phlegmish posted:I might come back after finally taking a bit of a break. What'd I miss in those two weeks? delta is now krab sqad
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Whitey Snipes posted:Hmm, I sent the email on Wednesday and nothing yet.
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Sickening posted:Someone's panther alt is getting Hulk kills. "Someone" lol
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raminasi posted:CCP did a whole set of changes to try to make every ship useful for something, at least in theory. There aren't supposed to be any punchline ships anymore, period. (Feroxes are one of our most popular doctrines! Feroxes!) Except for most T1 battleships it seems Abbadon and Rokh are like built to be mainline ships for fleet battle but nobody use them  And has anybody seen a Maelstorm this year ? Krogort fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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CopperHound posted:I can't do it in Asher fleets when he calls out some non doctrine fitting then tells everyone to undock in 30 seconds. I have a shield/mwd nano Dominix with medium drones and 425mm autocannons for the next time he randomly pings Ishtars i usually fly boosts these days. imo one of the big benefits of nullified warpin boosters is that you can switch out to a full rack of three different racial boosts in the destination system, and with cheaper mindlinks there's a 2/3 chance they'll be maximum strength too Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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Dalmuti posted:delta is now krab sqad Did we get back our homeland in the end? What's the status of the revenge tour, has it begun yet?
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andromache posted:Nothing good can result in a goon getting laid? no it’s that even then it all turns to poo poo
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raminasi posted:CCP did a whole set of changes to try to make every ship useful for something, at least in theory. There aren't supposed to be any punchline ships anymore, period. (Feroxes are one of our most popular doctrines! Feroxes!) They even look great! (Still not as sexy as the Hurricane, which remains the Most Beautiful Ship in Eve Online, a Terrible Game).
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Aug 27, 2021 19:53
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Krogort posted:Except for most T1 battleships it seems Rokhs are a doctrine ship though? I don't think I've ever seen an Abbadon used as a serious line warship in my 12 years playing this game.
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Phlegmish posted:Did we get back our homeland in the end? Don't know which sig is doing it, but somebody keeps blapping TEST's new anchoring structures in bombers from across the galaxy What did end up happening to resolve the friction regarding Delta's homeland anyway
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Aug 27, 2021 20:23
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All I want is a viable facefuck doctrine instead of all this 2009 era sniping poo poo.
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Phlegmish posted:I might come back after finally taking a bit of a break. What'd I miss in those two weeks? I finally traded in my Chimera for a Thanatos? 
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Warmachine posted:Rokhs are a doctrine ship though? PL used Arty Abaddons back in the day, I thought.
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Ynglaur posted:PL used Arty Abaddons back in the day, I thought. PGL had a big brain abbadon doctrine that he dumpstered into the wood chipper one time then retired it. 100 battleships just pissed away… AFTER the battleship changes.
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Warmachine posted:Rokhs are a doctrine ship though? Artillery abaddons were used for a while since they had the same alpha as a Maelstrom without the large sig radius, which made it ideal for shrugging off bombs better. A long time ago, before the apocalypse got its range bonus, abaddons were popular mega pulse platforms that went 7 guns/1 remote rep. You can't fit them with beam lasers because a full tach'd out Abaddon uses a quarter of its cap for every shot
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I remember pulse abaddons being fielded by opponents in the bad old days of Nothing But Drakes. Weren't arty maelstroms a response to abaddons?
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andromache posted:PGL had a big brain abbadon doctrine that he dumpstered into the wood chipper one time then retired it. 100 battleships just pissed away… AFTER the battleship changes. I guarantee that he stocked these ships himself at a huge markup and made a shitload of cash on that doctrine.
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I guarantee that he stocked these ships himself at a huge markup and made a shitload of cash on that doctrine. wutang
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MRC48B posted:Until a month ago, defense ops were even faster. Get ping > login > undock > warp to already engaged fleet and start shooting. I missed a few fleets because by the time I logged in, got in the right mumble room and fleet and swapped out of my training clone the fleet was already gone 
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/94758465/ -1 tapi fortizar text is
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Collateral Damage posted:All I want is a viable facefuck doctrine instead of all this 2009 era sniping poo poo. As long as HACs are fast and effective or battleship get buffed a lot, this will not happen. The poo poo tactical mobility on grid and poo poo strategic mobility inter system of battleship is too damaging compared to the little EHP/Damage bonus they have unless you can fight while borderline anchored.
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Warmachine posted:Rokhs are a doctrine ship though? INIT uses Abbadons and Apocs as part of a battleship doctrine
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zegermans posted:You can't fit [Abaddons] with beam lasers because a full tach'd out Abaddon uses a quarter of its cap for every shot I wonder if on-grid Faxes spamming remote cap would make this viable...though it would probably be better just to have fewer Faxes and more subcaps of a better type. chupacabraTERROR posted:I guarantee that he stocked these ships himself at a huge markup and made a shitload of cash on that doctrine. Well, obviously. supersnowman posted:As long as HACs are fast and effective or battleship get buffed a lot, this will not happen. The poo poo tactical mobility on grid and poo poo strategic mobility inter system of battleship is too damaging compared to the little EHP/Damage bonus they have unless you can fight while borderline anchored. It would be interesting if bigger ships were faster in warp than smaller ships, and smaller ships were faster on grid. Maybe have exceptions (Interceptors, Interdictors, Recons). Right now if you have on-grid mobility, you usually also have off-grid mobility, and vice-versa.
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Dalmuti posted:delta is now krab sqad He told the delta secret.
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Slugworth posted:I don't play because this game sounds complicated as poo poo and I just don't like spreadsheets as much as yall, but I've been following along since m2 or whatever, and my desire to join up has decreased with every single goon success of the war. I'd way rather be fighting against overwhelming odds to protect the goonland than be winning. Same. I don't know if this is culture or just personality, but even when I barely knew what EVE Online was, as soon as I heard they had formed a mega-coalition to 'exterminate' a much smaller group of people, my people, that got me fired up. Goons aren't allowed to play the game because you said so? Who do you think you are? gently caress you. I will never surrender, and I will never let you have what you want. By the same token, you couldn't have paid me to be in PAPI, even if I hadn't been a goon. They never had any real identity or culture (it was just a grab-bag of all the pubbies in nullsec), and their stated goals were dubious and dishonorable from the start. In a way, I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. I guess there is a certain type of person that likes 'gudfites' and winning as long as there's not too much risk, and ganging up on a single group of people initially seemed to allow for that. That's not getting into the bitter 'grr gons' types, who are in a category all of their own. As it turns out, there just weren't enough of those to keep up the pressure indefinitely.
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