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Decided to try FNM again: store was full, standing room only and only a handful of masks in sight. And they were all on the star wars minis players.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Did anyone notice this new LR keto revelation, after making GBS threads all over BREAD is exactly BREAD? the E in bread is "evasion", efficient creatures didn't exist back in the day most common removal is pretty bad and has been for a long time now, even their updated acronym is a year+ out of date already lol
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Aug 28, 2021 01:31
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little munchkin posted:the E in bread is "evasion", efficient creatures didn't exist back in the day When I saw the episode's title I thought it was going to be some new groundbreaking paradigm that we could tell new players and it turned out NOPE it's just the last thing except they skipped a letter.
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Aug 28, 2021 01:39
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Did anyone notice this new LR keto revelation, after making GBS threads all over BREAD is exactly BREAD? Ample isnt really very intuitive so changing that at least makes it obvious what it means
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Aug 28, 2021 01:47
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I've never heard anyone say the A in BREAD stood for "ample".
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Aug 28, 2021 01:53
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Aranan posted:I've never heard anyone say the A in BREAD stood for "ample". Ive never really paid attention to what BREAD meant so if fuzzy is lieing to me about what it means, well, shame on them
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Aug 28, 2021 01:56
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Wait doesn't it stand for Be taking red cards Red cards are the best Every card in your deck should be red Are there any red cards left? Don't take any thing else I've always wondered why I lose so much in draft.
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Aug 28, 2021 02:05
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Beat the opponent Render them meaningless Erase them from history Also thier family Dont forget to shoot thier dog too
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Aug 28, 2021 02:10
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The A in BREAD is Aggro... and the E is Evasion as was stated already.
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Aug 28, 2021 02:16
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Aranan posted:I've never heard anyone say the A in BREAD stood for "ample". one of the main criticisms of BREAD is that everyone is just guessing what the A or the D stand for
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Aug 28, 2021 02:19
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Lone Goat posted:When I saw the episode's title I thought it was going to be some new groundbreaking paradigm that we could tell new players and it turned out NOPE it's just the last thing except they skipped a letter. I have not listened to the episode but i laughed real hard when i read a spoiler Cactrot posted:Wait doesn't it stand for this sounds better for your winrate than KETO tbqh i just tell new people at the lgs to prioritize stuff that attacks, blocks or kills something
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Aug 28, 2021 02:21
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Yeah, I learned it as: Bombs Removal Evasion Abilities Dreg
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Aug 28, 2021 02:28
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Cactrot posted:Wait doesn't it stand for no you've confused it for B-RED, common mistake
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Aug 28, 2021 02:31
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I was told it was Bomb, Removal, Evasion, Average, Dreck.
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Aug 28, 2021 02:33
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Get 5 MTG drafters in a room and you'll hear 6 versions of what the A in BREAD stands for.
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Aug 28, 2021 02:38
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the A stands for avarice and the D stands for desperation
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Aug 28, 2021 02:42
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The five stages of draft Bombast Regret Ennui Acceptance Death Cactrot fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Aug 28, 2021 |
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Aug 28, 2021 02:44
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BREAD comes from the days when most of the cards sucked and you really needed to nail the draft in order to even get 23 playables, so the A was literally just reminding you to take creatures that can Attack (and block) over random junky cards that can't even do that. But honestly given how important being able to play to the board early is in most draft formats, I feel like that's the part of BREAD that's still relevant today. Take your two- and three-drop creatures that can attack and block, even if they aren't otherwise exciting, unless you want to lose. Removal used to be very scarce, so wanting to snap it up whenever you see it was a common theme across formats. That one's definitely bogus today, there's plenty of mediocre removal going around and you're pretty much always going to end up with something your deck can play at the end of the day. You still want to pick the good removal highly, but that's because they're good cards and not just because they're removal. Evasion is less of a big deal as well, mostly because you have more ways to deal with flyers that aren't just "play a flyer of your own", and an uncontested Wind Drake isn't really a game winner on its own. It's still good to have, but not dominant-across-formats the way the acronym suggests. You need to evaluate each card in the context of the environment instead of being "Storm Crow good because Flying".
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Aug 28, 2021 03:15
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It has been many many years since I've listened to Limited Resources but doing these historic drafts in MGTA recently for sets I've never played, I appreciated their analysis lens of "how does this card help me when I'm behind, how does this card help me when I'm ahead, how does it help me when I'm at parity?" -- I feel like at the most basic level, if you can make a case for a card in at least 2 out of 3 of those game states, it might be a decent draft pick
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Aug 28, 2021 04:06
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GigaPeon posted:16 Cards. Does that sound right from one J21?
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Aug 28, 2021 06:35
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Did a mystery booster draft today and somehow lucked into boros splinter twin combo. Highlights included: - kiki jiki - magus of the moat - sparring mummy - felidar guardian - goblin bombardment
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Aug 28, 2021 06:46
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Retcon posted:Every JS pack also has cards that already existed on Arena and use the old set symbol plus basic lands so yeah, sounds about right. Yeah that was I was thinking. Everyone was saying use that search string to see your new cards, but that's not entirely the case.
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Aug 28, 2021 06:46
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goferchan posted:It has been many many years since I've listened to Limited Resources but doing these historic drafts in MGTA recently for sets I've never played, I appreciated their analysis lens of "how does this card help me when I'm behind, how does this card help me when I'm ahead, how does it help me when I'm at parity?" -- I feel like at the most basic level, if you can make a case for a card in at least 2 out of 3 of those game states, it might be a decent draft pick Problem with this attitude is when you run into a high synergy set or a set with engine cards like Ikoria or Kaladesh, you can end up drafting cards instead of a deck which is not ideal
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Aug 28, 2021 09:17
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Carbomb. 3R "Today, we were unlucky. But remember, we only have to topdeck once — you have to topdeck always."
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Aug 28, 2021 09:53
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Cactrot posted:I remember someone eating a DQ for being able to cut to a specific card in their deck due to the distribution of foils and non-foils. The hilarious part is it happened because the eventual DQ-eater called a judge to complain about his opponent doing it, and then to prove his point cut to a specific card in his own deck. lmao my friend was the one who called him on this. special consideration for the fact that my friend was/is a judge and that fabiano came after the match to tell him "be sure to let them know that you were facing down lethal, okay?"
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Aug 28, 2021 11:17
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Is this just “Take the good removal over the good creatures, except when the good creatures are good enough, and then, my god, take those?” But even that’s not good advice in a lot of formats
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Aug 28, 2021 11:45
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BREAD made sense when common removal was Terror while common creatures were Grey Ogre or whatever. But they're better at balancing limited cards now, you can get mediocre removal or premium creatures with no evasive abilities.
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Aug 28, 2021 12:38
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MikeCrotch posted:Problem with this attitude is when you run into a high synergy set or a set with engine cards like Ikoria or Kaladesh, you can end up drafting cards instead of a deck which is not ideal Yeah that's fair, I definitely benefited from reading up on draft guides for both those sets. I do find it to be more helpful as a baseline newbie card evaluation strategy than BREAD though.
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Aug 28, 2021 13:35
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Did anyone notice this new LR keto revelation, after making GBS threads all over BREAD is exactly BREAD? the E in bread is "evasion" not "efficient creatures" Also the A is "Aggro"
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Aug 28, 2021 14:45
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Paul Zuvella posted:the E in bread is "evasion" not "efficient creatures" The B stands for BEST CARDS which is all you really need, so BREAD becomes B
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Aug 28, 2021 14:49
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Anyone playing standard 2022 on arena? I have the wildcards for either Mardu Sacrifice or Orzhov Control and both seem pretty fun. The mythics I'd be crafting would be Extus and Kaya, respectively, in case the potential staying power of either of those cards is a factor you'd have me consider
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Aug 28, 2021 14:50
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goferchan posted:Anyone playing standard 2022 on arena? I have the wildcards for either Mardu Sacrifice or Orzhov Control and both seem pretty fun. The mythics I'd be crafting would be Extus and Kaya, respectively, in case the potential staying power of either of those cards is a factor you'd have me consider It is impossible to tell how the meta will shake out post midnight hunt. Don't spend the wc's now.
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Aug 28, 2021 15:24
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goferchan posted:Anyone playing standard 2022 on arena? I have the wildcards for either Mardu Sacrifice or Orzhov Control and both seem pretty fun. The mythics I'd be crafting would be Extus and Kaya, respectively, in case the potential staying power of either of those cards is a factor you'd have me consider
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Aug 28, 2021 17:15
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Jumpstart Horizons loving sucks as a format.
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Aug 28, 2021 17:50
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Crackbone posted:Jumpstart Horizons loving sucks as a format. This was very obvious. Jumpstart is for players that haven't even dipped their toes in to prereleases as far as limited goes.
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Aug 28, 2021 19:13
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Also thank you to all you pedants who couldn't see a joke if it slapped them in the face for reminding everyone that the A in bread isn't for ample lol.
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Aug 28, 2021 19:13
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Jumpstart Horizons sucks but it is better than Jumpstart Alpha because at least each deck can win on its own
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Aug 28, 2021 19:14
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Crackbone posted:Jumpstart Horizons loving sucks as a format. i've heard this as well. have also heard that touching wet paint will get some of it on your fingers Aranan posted:The B stands for BEST CARDS which is all you really need, so BREAD becomes B yup
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Aug 28, 2021 19:15
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Also thank you to all you pedants who couldn't see a joke if it slapped them in the face for reminding everyone that the A in bread isn't for ample lol.
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Aug 28, 2021 19:15
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original jumpstart and jhh are really fun actually
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