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UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


92 cases in Melbourne/Victoria. We're going to hit triple digits for the first time since August 2020, except last year at this time cases were in a steep decline after months of strict lockdown. Now lockdown doesn't work. :(

300+ days spent locked in my room for nothing.

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Twigand Berries
Sep 7, 2008

Well, the USPS will be going back to masks on monday so there's a twitch.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001


I've been anxiously awaiting this kind of data since responsiveness to the risk is clearly motivated by partisanship. The other source I often look at for partisan impact is here



lol @ arizona, the state biden won by just 10,000 votes in the last election and pennsylvania

El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Aug 28, 2021

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



UnfortunateSexFart posted:

92 cases in Melbourne/Victoria. We're going to hit triple digits for the first time since August 2020, except last year at this time cases were in a steep decline after months of strict lockdown. Now lockdown doesn't work. :(

300+ days spent locked in my room for nothing.

Your welcome (USA)

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia
It's exciting because as that data continues to come out the take away from the CHUDs isn't going to be that they were wrong its going to be a mix of "this data is made up" and "the libs targeted us!"

Der Meister
May 12, 2001

gently caress yea got my booster time to suck and gently caress

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Der Meister posted:

gently caress yea got my booster time to suck and gently caress

(safely)

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Zurtilik posted:

It's exciting because as that data continues to come out the take away from the CHUDs isn't going to be that they were wrong its going to be a mix of "this data is made up" and "the libs targeted us!"

It's the same as all the Chuds saying they refused the vaccine since it was experimental.

They'll change the goal posts just to continue to avoid getting vaccinated and maintaining their conspiracy theory ideological purity/ Tribal identification.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Crazypoops posted:

Your welcome (USA)

Actually was America's fault since an American flight crew infected an airport transporter in Sydney which then spread to Melbourne and New Zealand.

But lockdown not working anymore is not your fault I guess.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

etalian posted:

It's the same as all the Chuds saying they refused the vaccine since it was experimental.

They'll change the goal posts just to continue to avoid getting vaccinated and maintaining their conspiracy theory ideological purity/ Tribal identification.

Now now let's give them the benefit of the doubt and see what happens once it gets full FDA approval.

...

Ahh well... nevertheless...

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Der Meister posted:

gently caress yea got my booster time to suck and gently caress

Nice, I am just getting done being sick from it. Overall it was about half as bad as the 2nd shot. 100F instead of 102F fever overnight.

Der Meister
May 12, 2001


:hai:

19 o'clock
Sep 9, 2004

Excelsior!!!

Der Meister posted:

gently caress yea got my booster time to suck and gently caress

:patriot:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


lmao

Der Meister
May 12, 2001

Salt Fish posted:

Nice, I am just getting done being sick from it. Overall it was about half as bad as the 2nd shot. 100F instead of 102F fever overnight.

gently caress man that sucks



I never had any symptoms

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost

Demon Of The Fall posted:

my aunt in law is a pediatric nurse at a local hospital and I shot her a text to see how things are at her place in middle tennessee. I’ll quote anything that might be interesting to the thread

trying real hard not to crack ping here





Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Nah, it's worth it. I was giggling while I'm getting water, a thermometer, extra blankets, asprin, phone charger and laying all that poo poo out on my night stand. It's like the night before christmas but for titers.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

You see...
Some men take vaccines
Others wear a mask.
The only thing I'm hunting for is animal meds that taste good. 



Drink sheep drench, 
Drink sheep drench, 
Made from Durvets stock that's best.
 
Get meds sent here, 
Hand delivered 
Authentic colloidal silver. 

Dewormer pills, 'twas my cats. 
My evening meal, kills vampire bats. 
These white vials are 
mixed with peroxide and iodine. 
Slap them into nebulizers, I've got two to share!

This mare's paste on my face it shall rest 
Try my sheeple suit, It comes one drench or two... 

Drink sheep drench, 
Drink sheep drench, 
Drink sheep drench. 

Like my facebook? Full of dead folk, 
Who didn't follow the Protocol, 
But a Trump branded Ivermectin would be best... 

So let's drench till we're high, 
New stock at Tractor Supply! 
Drink sheep drench! Drink sheep drench! 
Oh, please, won't you drink my dreeeeench! 





I really like the drench! 

McNugget Buddy
Aug 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Demon Of The Fall posted:

trying real hard not to crack ping here







tell her about the speedrun

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



etalian posted:

It's the same as all the Chuds saying they refused the vaccine since it was experimental.

They'll change the goal posts just to continue to avoid getting vaccinated and maintaining their conspiracy theory ideological purity/ Tribal identification.

yeah the switch from "its not fda approved!" to "heh, you trust the fda?" was instant and seamless

there's not any point trying to argue with them because they have no actual positions and no principles. they will instantly shift to whatever stance is the opposite of the one the person they are mad it is advocating, completely immune to any form of cognitive dissonance

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Twigand Berries posted:

Well, the USPS will be going back to masks on monday so there's a twitch.

they don’t enforce it, it’s all noses and pulling the mask down to talk at my plant

gremlins two
Aug 14, 2019

Der Meister posted:

gently caress yea got my booster time to suck and gently caress

moderna or pfizer?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

etalian posted:

It's the same as all the Chuds saying they refused the vaccine since it was experimental.

They'll change the goal posts just to continue to avoid getting vaccinated and maintaining their conspiracy theory ideological purity/ Tribal identification.

meanwhile we do the same thing with waning vaccine efficacy and boosters needed for variants as our reason to not go back to normal.

except one of these things is rational and based on outcomes and the other is obstinate idiocy.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Demon Of The Fall posted:

trying real hard not to crack ping here

Don't fight it and let the ping wash over you.

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia
Maybe we should opemly act like the vaccine doesn't work and the CHUDs will start drinking it.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Pingui posted:

Don't fight it and let the ping wash over you.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Trump unreality killing chuds is kinda neat

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1431739898873139210?s=20

Pingui posted:

Don't fight it and let the ping wash over you.

:crackping:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


pillsburysoldier posted:

Trump unreality killing chuds is kinda neat

Trump was a Democrat until 2008. Makes you think

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

That we're neither giving emergency EUA (or hell, just make the Phase 3 trial open to literally anyone that wants to sign up) nor keeping kids remote for the fall is actual murder and it blows my mind how many people are okay with it.

For fucks sake at the very least the government should make it so people that want to protect themselves are able to do so but we don't even get that.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Why did we have to draw a slow apocalypse?

Boat Stuck
Apr 20, 2021

I tried to sneak through the canal, man! Can't make it, can't make it, the ship's stuck! Outta my way son! BOAT STUCK! BOAT STUCK!

Demon Of The Fall posted:

trying real hard not to crack ping here







is the divorce final yet?

Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015


hmmm maybe the CDC should tell people about this? nah it's just one simulation, OPEN ER UP

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

[ASK] ME ABOUT MY LOVE FOR 1'S
what was the origination of crack ping? i remember the image of pills that make your brain go crack ping, but was that where it started?

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

so basically it rips through the entire united states by end of january. OPENERUP

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost

Boat Stuck posted:

is the divorce final yet?

:horsedrugs:

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







anime was right posted:

so basically it rips through the entire united states by end of january. OPENERUP

just in time for the next variant.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

wtf we ran that simulation in this thread like a month ago

pay me, cdc, you fucks

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Child-Care Workers Might Not Come Back

hmm, I wonder why they might not come back

quote:

Tessa Martyn’s former boss recently asked her if she would like to return to work this autumn. Her answer was no. The job was with a child-care program in a middle-class suburb outside Chicago; it shut down in March 2020. Martyn previously thought that even with her worries about COVID-19, she would return this fall, perhaps in a role that limited her exposure to other people. But with the spread of the Delta variant, she is steering clear of the local school where the program is held. “Right now, with this new variant, the school is the worst place to be,” Martyn told me.

Being around unvaccinated people is extra fraught for Martyn: She lives at her family home and her older brother is on immunosuppressants to prevent his body from rejecting a kidney transplant. (Although he received a COVID-19 vaccine, subsequent tests found that he didn’t develop antibodies.) Of course, “unvaccinated people” currently includes the 50 million or so children in America who are under 12 years old and are ineligible for a vaccine. Because this is also a population in need of in-person care, some child-care workers fear contracting the highly transmissible Delta variant. Kids and adults wearing masks reduces the spread of the coronavirus, and the risk of serious illness from COVID-19 is significantly lower for people who are fully vaccinated. But even inoculated workers like Martyn fear becoming asymptomatic carriers of the virus, and perceive the risk of infection as too high. As a consequence, some of them are opting out of the industry just at the moment when families need them desperately. That’s entirely understandable—but leaves parents of young children with fewer and fewer options for support.

Rasheed Malik, an associate director of research at the Center for American Progress, told me that the contagiousness of Delta and cases of breakthrough infections are prompting many child-care providers to reconsider their line of work. “The Delta variant has really changed the calculus for many people. They saw this coming fall as the light at the end of the tunnel. Now it’s looking like last fall,” Malik said. “It’s a lot of uncertainty piled on uncertainty piled on risk for child-care workers right now.”

A child-care shortage existed before the coronavirus pandemic, but the events of 2020 exacerbated it. In some states, day-care employees were not designated essential workers during last year’s shutdowns, and their workplaces had to close permanently. One study found that in the United States, two-thirds of child-care centers shut down in April 2020. Zachary Parolin, a co-author of the paper and an assistant professor at Bocconi University, in Italy, told me that 29 percent of all centers nationally remained closed or operating at half-capacity as of this June. He anticipated that this figure would increase in the coming months as the Delta variant spreads.

About 35 percent of child-care workers lost their job early in the pandemic, and only about two-thirds have returned to work, according to Malik. Many of these workers—including employees of day-care programs, part-time babysitters, and full-time nannies—were already hesitant to resume their job and expose themselves to the coronavirus. Now Delta has heightened that feeling. Prior to the pandemic, Sittercity.com, an online platform that matches families and babysitters, had an average of one sitter for every five families seeking care. During the pandemic, that ratio got worse, dropping to one sitter for every 10 families. By the end of July, the ratio was 1 to 14, Zenobia Moochhala, the site’s CEO, told me.

Exhausted parents and a shortage of child-care workers mean that the latter can pick and choose their jobs, giving them uncommon leverage in a typically low-paying industry. In May 2020, day-care workers earned a median wage of less than $12 an hour. Annual turnover in some child-care jobs can be as high as 30 percent, according to the Health and Human Services Administration for Children and Families.

Now these workers are closely considering household safety and potential exposure to unvaccinated children when deciding if they’ll take a job. Many child-care providers work part-time without benefits such as health insurance, leaving the burden of ensuring workplace safety on the individuals themselves. Some nannies are also selective about what professions the parents employing them have—medical-care providers and other public-facing workers might have a harder time finding care, Jada Rashawn, a consultant for Sittercity.com, told me.

Moochhala said that the number of conversations between parents and sitters about vaccine status has doubled since April, according to company data. And almost 40 percent of surveyed sitters on the platform said that Delta was prompting them to either work only for one family—instead of three or four concurrently—or refuse to sit for families with unvaccinated members (other than children under 12), Moochhala said.

For Brittney Kirton, the spread of Delta and the end of a nannying contract prompted her to return in June to working as a newborn specialist, providing support for a couple who just had a baby. In large part, that was because she expected the family to stay close to home for the first one to three months after the baby was born. “As far as COVID is concerned, this could potentially be the best route to limit outside risks,” Kirton told me.

Sometimes, though, no personal cost-benefit analysis makes child care a worthwhile job when the stakes of Delta are so high. Martyn has declined babysitting jobs and even a dog-sitting gig for someone who teaches young children. Although Martyn might return to child care in the future, she’s not considering it while the variant persists. Workers like her can’t be blamed for choosing not to expose themselves to unvaccinated children, just as parents aren’t responsible for not being able to get their young kids vaccinated. But not for the first time in the pandemic, all parties are ending up on their own.

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


fosborb posted:

wtf we ran that simulation in this thread like a month ago

pay me, cdc, you fucks

Is your dad a major donor? No? Too fuckin' bad

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