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Drakkel posted:It's both funny and kind of sad when you see an NXT person for the first time and realize they've been in the PC going to wrestling school for longer than the Attitude Era existed and are still only barely good enough to get on developmental tv How is this possible? I understand it can take time for someone to get good in the ring but the PC has some amazing coaches and facilities. How are they unable to get someone in presentable shape in that period of time?
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Renaissance Spam posted:How is this possible? I understand it can take time for someone to get good in the ring but the PC has some amazing coaches and facilities. How are they unable to get someone in presentable shape in that period of time? I'm guessing the pandemic probably has something to do with it. That only accounts for part of it. Who does the PC still have as coaches? Is Norman Smiley still around?
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Renaissance Spam posted:How is this possible? I understand it can take time for someone to get good in the ring but the PC has some amazing coaches and facilities. How are they unable to get someone in presentable shape in that period of time? Was it Ridge Holland or like, Artuo Ruas or someone who was in the PC for like 7 years? And Aliyah has been there for like 6+?
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Drakkel posted:Was it Ridge Holland or like, Artuo Ruas or someone who was in the PC for like 7 years? And Aliyah has been there for like 6+? you're thinking of Kona Reeves
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IGgy IGsen posted:I'm guessing the pandemic probably has something to do with it. That only accounts for part of it. Brian Duncan, Chris Guy (Ace Steel), David Bailey, Fit Finlay, Johnny Moss, Matt Bloom (Albert), Norman Smiley, Robbie Brookside, Ryan Katz (GQ Money), Sara Amato (Sara Del Rey), Scott Armstrong, Scott Garland (Scotty 2 Hotty), Sean Hayes, Steve Corino, Tanner Robinson, Tara Halaby and Terry Taylor.
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Eva Marie has been around for a close to a decade and she's still complete dogshit in the ring.
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Lone Goat posted:Eva Marie has been around for a close to a decade and she's still complete dogshit in the ring. That's more due to her absolute unwillingness to do anything other than WWE style, which by itself is complete dogshit in ring. But you can nail that entrance and find the hardcam blind drunk.
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At least she makes main roster money at lot of the time to be a terrible wrestler. I don't understand what these people are doing in the performance center for years making peanuts and ALSO not learning how to wrestle at all.
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Renaissance Spam posted:How is this possible? I understand it can take time for someone to get good in the ring but the PC has some amazing coaches and facilities. How are they unable to get someone in presentable shape in that period of time? They've purposely trained them wrong, as a joke.
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huge respect to Eva Marie for taking WWE's money for years and years
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Sticky Nate posted:huge respect to Eva Marie for taking WWE's money for years and years
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Renaissance Spam posted:How is this possible? I understand it can take time for someone to get good in the ring but the PC has some amazing coaches and facilities. How are they unable to get someone in presentable shape in that period of time? The WWE doesn't tell their coaches to teach the things that would make people into great wrestlers. They want them doing drills and lifting heavy in ways that destroy your knees and learning where the hard camera is.
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Drakkel posted:It's both funny and kind of sad when you see an NXT person for the first time and realize they've been in the PC going to wrestling school for longer than the Attitude Era existed and are still only barely good enough to get on developmental tv At some point you really just need to loving get our there and have matches and they can't do that in WWE. Fuckin sucks.
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This is why New Japan sends people on excursion. Teach them a fundamental core in an excellent training environment until they are excellent at it, then send them to experiment somewhere else and come back good. Or in the case of Wato, come back.
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Lamuella posted:Or in the case of Wato, come back. hahaha
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Checks out, Wato was always good.
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Drakkel posted:It's both funny and kind of sad when you see an NXT person for the first time and realize they've been in the PC going to wrestling school for longer than the Attitude Era existed and are still only barely good enough to get on developmental tv Meanwhile on New Japan, there are two new Young Boys who have had THREE televised matches and they've all been bangers and they're already telling a compelling story also involving a THIRD Young Boy who has only had one televised match where he got injured and he's furious that he has to stand on the sidelines watching these guys tear it up.
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We need a new Dave Meltzer David Flair titantron but updated with AEW charts instead of WCW charts. Also,  https://twitter.com/KaraOnza/status/1431291863940562945?s=20
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Luigi Thirty posted:We need a new Dave Meltzer David Flair titantron but updated with AEW charts instead of WCW charts. he gets the name of the aew rampage ep wrong in the first paragraph
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Ahaha, on the Bryan/Lance Figure Four Weekly, apparently Brock Lesnar getting a new deal was a last minute thing because Fox was pissed off that WWE didn't make CM Punk a big money offer to keep him from going to AEW  Brock getting paid again, CM Punk costing Vince money, Fox pissed off at WWE. You love to see it.
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Jerusalem posted:Ahaha, on the Bryan/Lance Figure Four Weekly, apparently Brock Lesnar getting a new deal was a last minute thing because Fox was pissed off that WWE didn't make CM Punk a big money offer to keep him from going to AEW Yeah the Brock thing was way more transparent as a reaction to Punk. The Becky stuff was clearly more a factor of Sasha being pulled
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Jerusalem posted:Ahaha, on the Bryan/Lance Figure Four Weekly, apparently Brock Lesnar getting a new deal was a last minute thing because Fox was pissed off that WWE didn't make CM Punk a big money offer to keep him from going to AEW I have also heard that Universal is mad that Fox is getting Brock and Becky.
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whats that? you can't serve two masters? man if only someone had said something about this in the last 2,000 years
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NFL and NBA can keep multiple TV companies happy or at least content but that involves working with them and that will 100% trip Vince up
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SatoshiMiwa posted:NFL and NBA can keep multiple TV companies happy or at least content but that involves working with them and that will 100% trip Vince up It’s just the brand split. In every other sport, each network has access to all the stars at one time or another. Having a brand split in this situation is really dumb.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:NFL and NBA can keep multiple TV companies happy or at least content but that involves working with them and that will 100% trip Vince up Remember when Vince tried to strongarm the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.... IN Saudi Arabia? 
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Jerusalem posted:Remember when Vince tried to strongarm the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.... IN Saudi Arabia? The fact they have had to pay millions to settle lawsuits cause they actually don't want details on record about that trip is the cherry on top
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algebra testes posted:Is anyone still shook by the fact that CMLL guys can make more money in ROH than CMLL Not really, it's CMLL
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sportsgenius86 posted:It’s just the brand split. In every other sport, each network has access to all the stars at one time or another. Fox WANTED the brand split so they could have exclusive wrestlers.
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CMLL pays on gates so when Arena Mexico is full the pay isn't too bad for Mexico. It's just that Arena Mexican can't be full cause of Covid and people aren't throwing money onto the ring Now if CMLL adapted and let its talent work indies against AAA guys we wouldn't be having the exodus but CMLL gonna CMLL. Except this time with the pandemic and bad booking and a talent pipeline that seems broken they might not recover
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Edward Mass posted:Fox WANTED the brand split so they could have exclusive wrestlers. ...and then WWE almost IMMEDIATELY spit in their face with this by having Brock Lesnar show up and basically cut a promo about how Smackdown is a dogshit show for losers and demanded to go back to RAW
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algebra testes posted:Is anyone still shook by the fact that CMLL guys can make more money in ROH than CMLL ROH pays contracted guys really well and it's usually true that Mexican stars make more for a foreign booking than in Mexico. That's why so many guys getting access to visas recently is huge. Even LA Park is willing to do jobs in MLW because he's making good money (while most US indie guys get $150 a shot in MLW.)
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MassRafTer posted:ROH pays contracted guys really well and it's usually true that Mexican stars make more for a foreign booking than in Mexico. That's why so many guys getting access to visas recently is huge. Even LA Park is willing to do jobs in MLW because he's making good money (while most US indie guys get $150 a shot in MLW.) christ almighty. i know that people sell shirts and poo poo, but MLW does have tapings and a contact with vice, loving /surely/ they can pay their goddamn wrestlers more than a show in a school gym
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Nea posted:christ almighty. i know that people sell shirts and poo poo, but MLW does have tapings and a contact with vice, loving /surely/ they can pay their goddamn wrestlers more than a show in a school gym This is a figure from 2 years ago but I haven't heard anything about it going up.
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Nea posted:christ almighty. i know that people sell shirts and poo poo, but MLW does have tapings and a contact with vice, loving /surely/ they can pay their goddamn wrestlers more than a show in a school gym I looked for MLW on Vice the other way and it doesn't appear to be on. Is it still supposed to be on?
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Don't ask me, I do not watch it. I just know of it. I will start watching it when Azteca Underground becomes a thing.
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MassRafTer posted:This is a figure from 2 years ago but I haven't heard anything about it going up.
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