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hahaha Americans aren't even going to have language to process this we let someone's tableau data shaping shortcut convince entire state and federal apparatus fully vaxxed = immediately after the second shot what little good data we had on vaccines is just going to throw its hands into the air and huff off
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Aug 29, 2021 19:03
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Petey posted:what do we know about the science of ocular transmission? Wear a face shield if you're worried
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Aug 29, 2021 19:04
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I wager a lot of people are going to stand firm on 7+ months for boosters because because don't want to 'look bad' by giving conflicting info.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:05
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So for Pfizer you need three shots confirmed? Are the booster shots any different than the second shot was?
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Aug 29, 2021 19:06
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fosborb posted:hahaha Americans aren't even going to have language to process this I was worried that not having an official 3rd shot on the books would mean being denied medical care for unrelated reasons at some point. But in all likelihood, an insignificant amount of Americans are going to get the booster. Can't gatekeep 90% of Americans out of hospital care! What a shitshow.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:07
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Aug 29, 2021 19:07
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Feldegast42 posted:So for Pfizer you need three shots confirmed? Are the booster shots any different than the second shot was? Antibody levels are significantly higher after the 3rd shot than after the 2nd shot  
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Aug 29, 2021 19:08
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Asproigerosis posted:hi how are you on a call in roster while currently active with covid thanks for taking my call sounds like solid hospital admin choices to have their physicians be superspreaders Actually I’m technically clear to return at this point covid recovery wise but with my family recovering from covid they put me off until September just to be safe but this is a pretty big emergency so that’s been cancelled. I’m on backup but if things fall apart the roster’s not that deep right now.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:Wear a face shield if you're worried but the CDC says no!  I guess they're saying "don't wear a face shield with no mask" but if you're at face shield level I'd imagine you're already masked up
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Aug 29, 2021 19:08
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Petey posted:what do we know about the science of ocular transmission? We know that it is the primary method of transmission as evidenced by my hospital being being extremely emphatic that the special 30 cent plastic glasses they handed out are part of mandatory PPE but you only need an n95 for aerosol procedures because a surgical mask is more than enough to defeat the droplets of the virus that surely can't be airborne. Genuinely infuriates me every time some admin asks about wearing the glasses, gently caress you bud. It's like a monty python skit where they're cleaning up nuclear waste and the running gag is that the one guy forgot to wear his protective condom as he dies to acute radiation sickness as management chastises him in a very deadpan manner.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:09
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Nodelphi posted:Actually I’m technically clear to return at this point covid recovery wise but with my family recovering from covid they put me off until September just to be safe but this is a pretty big emergency so that’s been cancelled. Yeah I suspected given the dire situation in louisiana they'd drag your rear end in fully engulfed in the roni while you're on a rebreather to keep that o2 up for rounding. Good luck!
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Aug 29, 2021 19:11
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Here's some more ocular protection information: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2769693) August 17, 2020 The transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is believed to be predominantly through respiratory droplets from infected persons in close proximity to uninfected persons,1 although airborne transmission may also play a role.2,3 Face shields have been proposed to prevent transmission in the community,4 but data are lacking. We describe transmission in a community setting before and after the use of face shields. Results Before face shields, 62 workers (40 women) visited 5,880 homes with 31,164 persons. From the 5,880 homes visited, 222 persons tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, between May 4 to May 13. Twelve workers (19%) were infected during this period. Eight developed symptoms (fever, cough, sore throat, myalgia, and anosmia) and 4 were asymptomatic. The 12 infected workers were moved to care centers. Four developed desaturation and mild breathing difficulty and were treated with oral hydroxychloroquine and oxygen therapy; all 4 recovered. Contact tracing of the workers who tested positive identified 14 van drivers, who were monitored. All were asymptomatic and tested negative between days 7 and 10 after contact with the workers. After face shield introduction, 50 workers (previously uninfected) continued to provide counseling, visiting 18,228 homes. Among the counseled 118,428 persons, 2,682 subsequently tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. No worker developed asymptomatic or symptomatic infection. Discussion This study found no SARS-CoV-2 infections among community health workers after the addition of face shields to their personal protective equipment. Because the first worker became symptomatic 13 days after beginning home visits and workers had no contact with family, coworkers, or the public, there is no known alternative source of infection for the workers except the asymptomatic contacts of SARS-CoV-2 patients. The face shields may have reduced ocular exposure or contamination of masks or hands or may have diverted movement of air around the face. https://academic.oup.com/jpids/article/9/4/413/5875939?login=true https://i.imgur.com/682G8Vj.jpg A Rosetta Stone for Understanding Infectious Drops and Aerosols Which aerosol fraction—respirable, thoracic, or inhalable—is important from a health perspective depends on the agent and its target tissue. In the case of Mycobacterium tuberculosis, because the target resides in the alveoli, only the respirable fraction is relevant [7]. For a virus that uses a receptor present on the surface of cells throughout the length of the respiratory tract [8], all of these aerosol fractions are likely to be important (Figure 1). In addition, because the conjunctiva are susceptible to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection, a spray of ballistic drops hitting the eyes or the anterior nares also poses a risk, in addition to the well-accepted risk of self-inoculation of these sites with fingers contaminated after touching surfaces. When considering recommendations for protection of healthcare workers who must get close to their patients in potentially highly contaminated environments, eye as well as respiratory protection is important. For the general population, physical distance will limit exposure to splash and spray and contaminated surfaces, but will be less effective at blocking aerosols of even 20- to 30-µm particles that can travel considerable distances. Face masks that block shedding of inhalable and thoracic aerosols and reduce shedding of respirable aerosols [9] can be expected to make an important contribution as source control. There is evidence that physical distance, face masks, and eye protection all contribute to reducing the spread of betacoronavirus infections [10].
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Aug 29, 2021 19:13
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Asproigerosis posted:We know that it is the primary method of transmission as evidenced by my hospital being being extremely emphatic that the special 30 cent plastic glasses they handed out are part of mandatory PPE but you only need an n95 for aerosol procedures because a surgical mask is more than enough to defeat the droplets of the virus that surely can't be airborne. lol yeah all of this
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Aug 29, 2021 19:14
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WampaLord posted:but the CDC says no! lmao I've seen plenty of people with just a face shield, usually older people my wife has one with a frog on it to comfort kids she works with (she's masked) but they liked it too much and kept trying to take it off her face
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Aug 29, 2021 19:15
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Cloks posted:lmao I've seen plenty of people with just a face shield, usually older people the only old lady I saw with one had both face shield and a mask it still shocks me how many people are dicknosing with their masks like come on
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Aug 29, 2021 19:16
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WampaLord posted:but the CDC says no! wasnt there a study that said people with glasses were like 3x less likely to get covid or something absolutely loving bonkers it might because glasseswearers remain indoors which gives them bad vision which could be correlation but lol
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Aug 29, 2021 19:17
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WampaLord posted:
lol yup, at this point you HAVE to be doing that deliberately
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Aug 29, 2021 19:18
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:Today Jesus, Oregon, get your poo poo together.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:19
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i was in an orange county until yesterday. rip
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Aug 29, 2021 19:19
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Fix posted:Jesus, Oregon, get your poo poo together. It’s the sparsely populated, trump parts of the state
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Aug 29, 2021 19:20
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Glumwheels posted:It’s the sparsely populated, trump parts of the state multnomah just went red and its the densest part of the state by far lol
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Aug 29, 2021 19:20
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:I'm sure it will be fine when do I get to see some destruction
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Aug 29, 2021 19:21
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Cloks posted:lol yup, at this point you HAVE to be doing that deliberately the ones I really don’t understand is the people who do it in places where masks are optional
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Aug 29, 2021 19:21
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Cloks posted:lol yup, at this point you HAVE to be doing that deliberately and if you're at that point, just don't wear the mask at all, cause gently caress it, covid's over!
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Aug 29, 2021 19:21
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Joementum posted:attack............... of the killer vents!! Lol this owns
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Aug 29, 2021 19:22
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anime was right posted:multnomah just went red and its the densest part of the state by far lol think u mean "greater idaho"
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Aug 29, 2021 19:22
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Israel also opened up 3rd doses (I guess we shouldn't call them boosters any more) for everyone 12 and up https://twitter.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1431970271242641414
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Aug 29, 2021 19:22
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Oh now they are back to 8 months? Love the clarity on what the hell is going on
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Aug 29, 2021 19:25
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Aug 29, 2021 19:26
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I guess I'll try to get a booster in the 5-6 month period and hope pharmacies will be more open to it by then... Oh that's only like 3 weeks away.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:28
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gonna get mine at 5 months no matter what array of keywords I need to input
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Aug 29, 2021 19:29
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Feldegast42 posted:So for Pfizer you need three shots confirmed? Are the booster shots any different than the second shot was? Booster shots are somewhat confusing but you can think of it as two different category : 1) Boosters off the existing mRNA recipe (Currently FDA approved / Being Done in Israel for everyone lol!) 2) Boosters being designed to target common variants like the Delta spike protein, a new mRNA recipe (In pre-clincal stage nothing approved yet) I'd reccomend people stick with Israel is doing (5+ Months and up schedule for 3rd shot) given the amount of corner cutting we've seen from the CDC
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Aug 29, 2021 19:30
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I just found out the new New York governor is mandating masks in public schools. Public school starts next week for my kids. I am seeing on Facebook a lot of chuds in my school district stating that "the mandate is not legally binding" and that they are going to send their kids to school without masks. 1) what happens when they do that? Does the principal get involved and kick the small kids out? 2) what happens if the teachers and school staff are too scared to kick a kid out? Is there some sort of number I can call to report the school for letting kids not wear masks?
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Aug 29, 2021 19:37
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The Oldest Man posted:Lol we love to see it folks
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Aug 29, 2021 19:38
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where's my slut juice booster shot??
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Aug 29, 2021 19:40
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Blooster posted:I just found out the new New York governor is mandating masks in public schools. Public school starts next week for my kids. I would assume nothing happens. No one has any interest in enforcing anything.
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Aug 29, 2021 19:40
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cr0y posted:Oh now they are back to 8 months? believe the science
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Aug 29, 2021 19:41
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anime was right posted:wasnt there a study that said people with glasses were like 3x less likely to get covid or something absolutely loving bonkers yeah the causation wasn’t rock solid but it was enough of a correlation that people here took it seriously and recommended glasses/face shields almost everyone in ICU covers their eyes, good enough for me that study was from spring 2020, lol that nobody bothered to follow it up
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Blooster posted:I just found out the new New York governor is mandating masks in public schools. Public school starts next week for my kids. im in california but our schools have a mask mandate and from what I’ve seen it’s being followed. if a kid refuses to wear a mask they are kicked out. but if nobody has any interest in enforcement then who knows. depends on your school, district and teachers
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