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I did like the idea that all the writing down of calculations we saw 12 doing through his first season was him going,"Hang on... I don't think that formula was quite complete...." and working out the last little overhanging aspects and one day going,"Oh poo poo I forgot to carry the 1!" and he dives back in to get it right this time 
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Jerusalem posted:I did like the idea that all the writing down of calculations we saw 12 doing through his first season was him going,"Hang on... I don't think that formula was quite complete...." and working out the last little overhanging aspects and one day going,"Oh poo poo I forgot to carry the 1!" and he dives back in to get it right this time In the book version, he's specifically there for disaster relief. It's a fun book.
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Snorb posted:And Tom Baker's "Oh, if I were you... Maybe I was you! Or maybe you were me!" This is one of the few parts I watch over and over and over again. It's just perfect. So much emotion, perfect music, so much massive things ahead, so much not said, perfect writing. Has this ever been expanded on in the audio books, comics, semaphore, zoetropes, etc that I don't follow? happyhippy fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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Aug 27, 2021 17:30
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happyhippy posted:This is one of the few parts I watch over and over and over again. Tom plays The Curator in the Eighth Doctor series "Stranded"
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LividLiquid posted:I was such a naďve little Whovian that I assumed we'd actually have The Doctor go hunting for Gallifrey after DotD. Well, it was Tom who suggested it.
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Smith's first season is up on Prime Video and I'm bored in lockdown doing a rewatch gently caress me, how good is Time of Angels + Flesh & Stone? Particularly Flesh & Stone. “Why are they making her count?” “To make her afraid, sir.” “Okay but why? What for?” “For fun, sir.” "I wish I had known you better" "I think, sir, you know me at my best" Seeing the Doctor turn back up in his jacket, and knowing what the reveal is Man Season 5 was solid from start to finish. Maybe Vampires of Venice was the weakest one?
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Infinitum posted:Smith's first season is up on Prime Video and I'm bored in lockdown doing a rewatch The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood are the only episodes from season 5 I would classify as weak personally, I just dont like them at all. The good thing is, other than the first 5 minutes of The Hungry Earth and the last 5 of Cold Blood they are entirely skippable without missing anything from the seasons plot arc.
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Despite being the first to invent silly new rules about them, the Angels two-parter still owns hard. The Time of Angels' cliffhanger is right up there with Utopia, Bad Wolf, and World Enough and Time. I really think Series 5 was the most consistently good the revival has ever been, up until Series 10. Moffat was firing on all cylinders back then.
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Aug 29, 2021 18:01
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Vampires of Venice is better than Time of Angels
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Aug 29, 2021 21:14
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Vampires of Venice is better than Time of Angels I'd agree with this, though I don't think the latter is bad. Hungry Earth / Cold Blood are definitely bad stories. There's some really, really sloppy script work. Not a fan of The Lodger either, though it's better than Closing Time. I'd still put Season 1 above 5, but they're both very good.
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Aug 29, 2021 21:56
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Vampires of Venice is better than Time of Angels Absolutely
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Aug 29, 2021 22:06
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Hot Take: Smith's entire first season is good to great.
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Aug 29, 2021 22:09
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Rhyno posted:Hot Take: Its the best season of modern who, no doubt in my mind. Most of it is great, some of it is only pretty good, but for me theres no getting away from the Siluran two parter being an absolute clunker, outside of the intro and outro (coincidently the two parts not written by Chibnal). But two stinkers (making one really lousy two parter) out of 13 episodes, all the rest being good to great? Thats a truly amazing strike rate, best season in nuwho hands down. Like I know a lot of posters here dont like moffat, but his first season bought him a lot of leeway with me.
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SiKboy posted:Its the best season of modern who, no doubt in my mind. Most of it is great, some of it is only pretty good, but for me theres no getting away from the Siluran two parter being an absolute clunker, outside of the intro and outro (coincidently the two parts not written by Chibnal). Pretty sure Moffat wrote more than that -- there are some parts in the second half that absolutely came from him and not Chibnall, e.g. the voice over in the second episode. I suspect Moffat was doing a lot of rewriting on that episode, which might account for the utterly random "I quite adore you [CHILD VIVISECTIONIST SILURIAN]".
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One thing I love about that angel 2 parter is sitting there being grumpy because the Doctor said the inhabitants of this planet had two heads but all the statues only have one what a stupid mistake to make and then of course one of the characters says,"Hey didn't you say the inhabitants of this planet had two heads?" and 
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Well Manicured Man posted:I really think Series 5 was the most consistently good the revival has ever been, up until Series 10. Moffat was firing on all cylinders back then. Series 5 was Moffat's first album and it's actually pretty remarkable that series 6 was as good as it is and entirely unsurprising that series 7 was so absolutely uneven. Rhyno posted:Is there a better new Doctor debut than Eleven?
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If we count classic Doctors, I think Tom Baker's first story is pretty fun as a debut/showcase if only because it feels like a Pertwee story that happens to have an entirely different type of Doctor in it. Which is appropriate, of course, because it's showcasing that things have changed and aren't going to be the way they used to be. But yes, the Eleventh Doctor's first story is the best debut regardless of classic or modern Who.
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Well Manicured Man posted:Despite being the first to invent silly new rules about them, the Angels two-parter still owns hard. Not sure whether or not this is a hot take, but I think the new rules in the two-parter are the better rules of the set. "Ideas that can think for themselves" seems like the natural trait of creatures that don't exist when you're looking at them. Sending someone back in time and feeding off the potential energy of the life they didn't live is also a neat trait, and Blink is a structural masterpiece, but "the idea of an Angel becomes an Angel" is so much better thematically.
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Series five had the Doctor being all pally with Winston "the Indians are beastly people who breed like rabbits so the Bengal famine had to happen" Churchill so, y'knowRhyno posted:Is there a better new Doctor debut than Eleven? An Unearthly Child (part 1 in particular) is a pretty good piece of television
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Honestly, while it starts with a bang and has a few great episodes likce Vincent and the Doctor, I have a far lower opinion of season 5 than most of this thread. It just... feels mediocre? I guess you could say it feels... Chibnall. And the ending is just not very good.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Hungry Earth / Cold Blood are definitely bad stories. There's some really, really sloppy script work. They loving suck. The original Silurian story does a much better job of selling a large-scale drilling project than The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood, where there are a handful of people because it's the loving weekend. The part in the second episode where someone with no expertise, authority or responsibility negotiates away vast sections of the Earth loving shits me. It's worse because they just casually suggest that the outback of Australia is uninhabited despite people living there, and despite those people being continually shat on by decision makers operating under a policy that the Australia doesn't have any inhabitants whose views matter.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:They loving suck.
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The Silurians are one of those monsters that were only good in their first story. That they went from "weird and scary parallel-evolution reptilian humanoids" to "sexy wisecracking lizard ninjas" in just four major appearances was pure 
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Rhyno posted:Is there a better new Doctor debut than Eleven? One, Two, Three, Nine Jerusalem posted:If we count classic Doctors, I think Tom Baker's first story is pretty fun as a debut/showcase if only because it feels like a Pertwee story that happens to have an entirely different type of Doctor in it. Which is appropriate, of course, because it's showcasing that things have changed and aren't going to be the way they used to be. POwer???? Doctor Spaceman posted:The original Silurian story does a much better job of selling a large-scale drilling project than The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood, where there are a handful of people because it's the loving weekend. There is no large scale drilling project in The Silurians. Are you thinking of Inferno?
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Doctor debut stories that are very bad: Twin Dilemma, Time and the Rani (haven't watched this in ages though, it might be secretly good like a lot of Season 24), Christmas Invasion, Deep Breath Doctor debut stories that aren't great but do what they need to do: Robot, TV Movie Doctor debut stories that are very good and work great as an introduction to the show: An Unearthly Child, Spearhead from Space, Rose, Eleventh Hour, Woman Who Fell to Earth (haven't rewatched this either, I remember liking it when it aired but I don't know if it holds up) Doctor debut stories that are brilliant but that I would absolutely never recommend as an introduction to the show: Power of the Daleks, Castrovalva
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MrL_JaKiri posted:There is no large scale drilling project in The Silurians. Are you thinking of Inferno? Overall point still stands though; Wenley Moor is a hive of activity while the drillsite feels empty for a project of that scale.
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Extremely not hot take- Moffat's first and last series are the best series of the revival, but they have a few weaker episodes.
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marktheando posted:Extremely not hot take- Moffat's first and last series are the best series of the revival, but they have a few weaker episodes. 
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One thing i always remember fondly about season 5 was the absolutely ugly painting in the lodger, and how sure this thread was that it had to be relevent because it was so ugly
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Whichever season of NuWho it was that had James Corden appearing in episode(s) during it, automatically wins "worst season" by default
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Whichever season of NuWho it was that had James Corden appearing in episode(s) during it, automatically wins "worst season" by default 5 and 6B. Corden was tolerable though, continuing the trend of annoying comedians being actually good in Who.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:POwer???? I don't know, almost none of us have actually seen it, you got a copy? Guys don't remind JaKiri about the audio or the animated reconstruction, if we play our cards right we'll get the original broadcast out of this! ...oh, uhhh... JaKiri don't read this bit! Pocky In My Pocket posted:One thing i always remember fondly about season 5 was the absolutely ugly painting in the lodger, and how sure this thread was that it had to be relevent because it was so ugly Nick Cave is one of those guys who I could see just being in an episode of Doctor Who without the characters ever drawing attention to/recognizing him and it would just feel appropriate somehow.
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Jerusalem posted:I don't know, almost none of us have actually seen it, you got a copy? The animated recon is pretty good even if you miss out a lot of Troughton's physical acting. The dalek factory sequence is amazing.
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:One thing i always remember fondly about season 5 was the absolutely ugly painting in the lodger, and how sure this thread was that it had to be relevant because it was so ugly That was great. Especially because it's the season when the Doctor went back to Amy when she was blind without his coat on (or not his coat on... I don't rememer) and it was clearly NOT a production mistake and a LOT of people were getting mad when we pointed it out. I remember a few "ok we will wait and see" little huffs in the thread. Then we got to that painting which obviously was just a poo poo painting in the background and people flipped a lid trying to figure out nothing. Good times. Can we just fast forward through time to the next show runner and doctor? I really don't care enough to wait for a season and a few specials. I'd take a reboot now. BBC should just make new episodes and can Chibnall's stuff. Maybe release it on a streaming platform like when Nickelodeon killed Korra.
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Doctor Who is never debuting new episodes outside of BBC One on a weekly basis.
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From Radio Times:quote:Writing in the latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine, Chibnall said: “The big change that happened during our tenure has been Doctor Who being produced through BBC Studios, rather than the BBC’s in-house Drama Department.
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