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I look forwards to the Scomo vs Albo debates where Scomo argues all recieving welfare (except old age pensioners) should pay for their Covid vaccine while Albo vehmently disagrees before agreeing anyway.
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Seemlar posted:Albo is beyond worthless as a leader, and the few notable positions where he's pretended to be an opposition rather than voting with the LNP against the Greens (being "Scomo screwed up the vaccine rollout" and "they should have built dedicated quarantine facilities") are both losers I wouldn't put actual money on it, but the Liberals are 2PP polling worse than at any point since the last election (approaching 54/46). They also have a 1-seat majority and 6 out of their 10 most marginal seats are in currently COVID-free states which I don't think are going to take kindly to the federal government bullying them into opening up.
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hambeet posted:someone thinks scomo's on a winner strategy Betting against Labor is free money
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If the LNP takes the next federal election, I will vomit ivermectin style until I pukeshit myself into a coma.
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Why would anyone else win? 
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Megillah Gorilla posted:If the LNP takes the next federal election, I will vomit ivermectin style until I pukeshit myself into a coma. rip
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freebooter posted:I wouldn't put actual money on it, but the Liberals are 2PP polling worse than at any point since the last election (approaching 54/46). I agree. Qld won it last Federal election for the Libs. (Largely on the back of "YAY coal! Adani is such a good idea!") But if ScoMo tries to force Palaszcuk into "letting 'er rip" and opening up to NSW, (especially with the case numbers they are having), it may well end up as a popularity battle between the two. And I know state and federal voters can be weird in the way that there is no correleation between the two. But Anna is more popular than Scott. And "hard borders against the other plague ridden states" plays a lot better than "open up because NSW needs you to". This is also not counting the anti Fed govt. sentiment in the west of Sydney about loving up the vaccine rollout, the historic low levels of support in WA, and Victoris which never votes well for the Libs.
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freebooter posted:I wouldn't put actual money on it, but the Liberals are 2PP polling worse than at any point since the last election (approaching 54/46). https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/1431942737486438401?s=19
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I know we're living in a timeline where Abbott and Morrison have been PM so all bets are off, but I just can't imagine PM Albo. gently caress I wish Shorten had won.
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Senor Tron posted:but I just can't imagine PM Albo. Might as well be a bag of flour sitting in the chair
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kirbysuperstar posted:Might as well be a bag of flour sitting in the chair Bag of flour wouldn't cut benefits. Bag of flour might also fight a tory through diabetes if you made it into a cake.
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freebooter posted:I wouldn't put actual money on it, but the Liberals are 2PP polling worse than at any point since the last election (approaching 54/46). The election can take place as far away as nine months from now, Covid is going to be in NSW's rear view mirror in 2-3. We'll see how much Covid-zero extremism holds up, but I lean towards not that well unless they decide they're happy with being permanent exiles, which is what they'll be if they look at the majority of the country being vaccinated, at levels incredibly conservative by worldwide standards, and continue to say "still not good enough". That's also a pretty long time to have to try and keep up the delusion that the rest of the world is some terrifying post-apocalypse hellscape of death that Covid-zero states are a sanctuary from when anybody with the internet can readily see that's bunk right now.
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droll posted:Are NSW and other states preparing for 'open it up' by stockpiling equipment and oxygen, building new facilities with beds and above all training more nurses and doctors to handle the surge and avoid unnecessary death or even collapse? She’ll be right
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#Newspoll Federal Primary Votes: L/NP 36 (-3) ALP 40 (+1) GRN 10 (-1) ON 3 (0) #auspol Labor at 40?????
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A labor primary vote at 40 is death to the coalition. There will be no election until next year. Scomos hope is that vaccinations have hit critical levels, the virus is at a low ebb due to summer, we open up, the economy bounces and everyone forgets again how the cunts hosed everything up. And they will.
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I wonder how strong the economic recovery will be this time. The RBA credited the recovery early this year to the huge amount of cash thrown around via JobKeeper but without that it could be much more subdued.
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gay picnic defence posted:I wonder how strong the economic recovery will be this time. The RBA credited the recovery early this year to the huge amount of cash thrown around via JobKeeper but without that it could be much more subdued. Think shits hosed Mr speakah
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I'm hoping this thread goes all in on scomentum for next election, that way we're all pleasantly surprised when we're wrong and Also friendly reminder anyone associated with the Herald Sun should be shot into space. Front page more whining Dan hasn't given his let er rip benchmarks, GIVE US HOPE DAN WHEN CAN WE LICK DOORKNOBS AGAIN, our mental health is suffering, plus a significant clive banner about how they care about mental health, you can't trust the big parties.
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In case you had faith in humanityABC: Sydney news: Increase in COVID-19 positive residents refusing to self-isolate posted:
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NSW showing that their weak as piss lockdown has been designed to match the weak as piss people that live there.
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Seemlar posted:Covid is going to be in NSW's rear view mirror in 2-3. Lockdown will (probably) be in the rear-view mirror. COVID won't be, and I wouldn't be surprised if in the northern hemisphere in winter it turns out vaccines weren't a magical solution after all and places like the UK start having to implement restrictions again. America's ICUs are already overflowing again. Seemlar posted:We'll see how much Covid-zero extremism holds up, but I lean towards not that well unless they decide they're happy with being permanent exiles, which is what they'll be if they look at the majority of the country being vaccinated, at levels incredibly conservative by worldwide standards, and continue to say "still not good enough". Apart from the (incorrect) notion that the people in COVID-free states aren't happy with that state of affairs, I can tell that you're not in Queensland/WA/SA/Tasmania/NT because of the phrase "permanent exiles." They're not "exiled" from anything. They live there. We are the ones who are locked up. They're standing on the outside of the prison bars. Beffer posted:A labor primary vote at 40 is death to the coalition. There will be no election until next year. Scomos hope is that vaccinations have hit critical levels, the virus is at a low ebb due to summer, we open up, the economy bounces and everyone forgets again how the cunts hosed everything up. And they will. The rumour is supposedly that they're gunning for a November election to ride on a crest of reopening, but I again think that's a problem with Morrison's Sydney brain - November will if anything be when the shitfight between NSW's opening on one hand and a demand for Qld and WA to reopen on the other hand is just getting into gear. Far better off waiting till the end of summer when maybe the Labor premiers have cautiously reopened their borders, people nationwide have got used to the idea of the virus circulating at controllable numbers, and the election can maybe be focused on something else. Or, the alternative which will be worst for the world but funniest for the election: northern winter brews up a new kind of hyper contagious and vaccine resistant variant which leaks into Australia and starts wreaking havoc and putting us back into lockdown right after he sets a date.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Might as well be a bag of flour sitting in the chair Plain? Self-raising? Whole meal? Is this a special flour blend like semolina? I think this really matters for the future of the Labor party.
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Living in Western Australia anecdotally there is heaps of support for 0 covid. Because it means snap lockdowns on any risk, and then "back to normal". We all go out to pubs, clubs, live normal precovid lives while vaccinations rates continue to improve. This is 100% the gold standard for dealing with covid, and if everyone had taken this approach covid would have been eliminated worldwide. Extremism is letting a pandemic virus run rampant because we can't dare let corpororate profits fall.
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freebooter posted:Or, the alternative which will be worst for the world but funniest for the election: northern winter brews up a new kind of hyper contagious and vaccine resistant variant which leaks into Australia and starts wreaking havoc and putting us back into lockdown right after he sets a date. I know this is a fear, but everything I've read suggests this is unlikely given that viruses tend to become less deadly over the long-term, rather than more. But who knows. hooman posted:Living in Western Australia anecdotally there is heaps of support for 0 covid. Because it means snap lockdowns on any risk, and then "back to normal". We all go out to pubs, clubs, live normal precovid lives while vaccinations rates continue to improve. This is 100% the gold standard for dealing with covid, and if everyone had taken this approach covid would have been eliminated worldwide. Extremism is letting a pandemic virus run rampant because we can't dare let corpororate profits fall. There is plenty of support for 0 COVID in Victoria too, but I'll tell you...after 200 days, that support tends to wane even among the "absolute zero" crowd. It's tough. StrangeThing fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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StrangeThing posted:I know this is a fear, but everything I've read suggests this is unlikely given that viruses tend to become less deadly over the long-term, rather than more. But who knows. From my view it’s less the 200 days of lockdown and more the knowledge that any attempt at zero covid will be actively sabotaged by the loving NSW government.
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who cares about the election? theres not gonna be an election, tomorrows the day 𝔗ℌ𝔈 𝔗ℜ𝔘ℭ𝔎ℑ𝔈𝔖 take back their country
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Solemn Sloth posted:From my view it’s less the 200 days of lockdown and more the knowledge that any attempt at zero covid will be actively sabotaged by the loving NSW government. Maybe. In my experience among people I know, no one cares about the why - just that they've suffered 200 days and enough is enough already you know?
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Solemn Sloth posted:From my view it’s less the 200 days of lockdown and more the knowledge that any attempt at zero covid will be actively sabotaged by the loving NSW government. I'm with this. Victoria made it to 0. And we had the worst outbreak and the worst lockdowns of any state, (pre recent NSW fuckery). People in Melbourne have seen how much a long lockdown sucks arse, but they have also seen how it can bring cases down to 0. I know blaming it all on Gladys/NSW is overly simplistic and not helpful. But gently caress her, and the plague rats that have spread from her diseased state.
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BrigadierSensible posted:I know blaming it all on Gladys/NSW is overly simplistic and not helpful. But gently caress her, and the plague rats that have spread from her diseased state. 
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Help I'm literally stuck in an episode of Hollowmen, some wankfest professional engagement consultants leading us through an 'individual ideation' process, then we voted which idea we should explore in more detail and the winning idea was to develop a white paper to further explor ethe problem kill me fuckingnowww
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StrangeThing posted:Maybe. In my experience among people I know, no one cares about the why - just that they've suffered 200 days and enough is enough already you know? I would say everyone I know is squarely blaming Gladys for the outbreak and Scomo for the shocking vaccine situation but - the appetite for more lockdowns is starting to shift primarily because an increasing amount of people (myself included) are starting to realize that 0 COVID forever just isn't possible. We - as in, humanity - collectively hosed that chicken when we failed to contain the outbreak initially. So the lockdowns feel less like tasks on the road to a greater accomplishment and more like chores while awaiting the inevitable.
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