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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? Florida is absolutely lying, last year there was an investigative reporter that was talking about deaths in The Villages and she offhandedly mentioned some number of deaths in the community at that point (late summer IIRC) that amounted to around 10% of the reported population of the community having died from covid. None of which was reported accurately in the official numbers. The reporter could have been wrong, of course, but I'd trust the word of someone on the ground over a state government that depends on pretending things are still normal for tourism to continue.
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Mr. Nice! posted:if you fully embrace that nothing matters, we're all dust in the wind, life is ephemeral and meaningless, it can liberate you from your feelings of doom and gloom. take time to look around you in your immediate life. look at your pets. look to your loved ones. appreciate the good things in life because they're all that matters because nothing else does. What if you have none of those things and your family just cares about you being a productive drone and dispensing endless advice about feeding yourself properly acems posted:btw, we have a local Sign Guy. his name is phil. i want to watch him and nate fight. SLAM IN THE BACK OF MY DRAGULA
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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? There was next to no testing in the first wave and cases were way undercounted. I'm sure you can back calculate using a ballpark cfr Also the blue states shoved covid patients into nursing homes and ignored that it would spread there and got thousands of old people killed and never took a second of responsibility for their terrible decision Florida is definitely undercounting cases right now , their cfr is through the roof. But deaths probably aren't any more under counted there than anywhere else, they just didn't try to empty the nursing homes straight into funeral parlors like the northeast and Illinois did
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acems posted:btw, we have a local Sign Guy. his name is phil. i want to watch him and nate fight. What's his username?
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This thread seems to think nothing is being done to curb the pandemic. Not true:https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/30/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html posted:This is how to prevent another 100,000 Covid deaths by December, Fauci says
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Iron Crowned posted:Lol, it drove my therapist nuts that my standard response to that question was, "I'm alright" Whole lotta "I'm hanging in there." out this way.
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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? Is that data going back to March 2020 when Andrew Cuomo was shipping old people out of hospitals and into retirement homes?
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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? Florida is cooking the books.
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mastershakeman posted:Also the blue states shoved covid patients into nursing homes and ignored that it would spread there You understand that nursing home residents are discharged from the hospital back to their place of residence, right? The alternative to putting them back in their place of residence was to discharge them to a dumpster. This is a big talking point in Pennsylvania right now, "Tom Wolf put covid positive people in nursing homes and it killed people," and it's a lie of omission that depends on the listener assuming that random people with covid were being shoved into nursing home populations. This was not the case.
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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? Florida's numbers have been hosed up for awhile. people keep posting when it happens but I can't remember specifics. dying WITH covid instead OF covid or something?
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"Nursing home residents died en masse because the nursing home industry has lax disease control measures" is an accurate statement. "Blue states shoved covid-positive patients into nursing homes to die" is not.
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acems posted:btw, we have a local Sign Guy. his name is phil. i want to watch him and nate fight. I mean this poo poo is, loving ridiculous loving ridiculous, I mean this poo poo is loving ridiculous
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I thought the 3M N95s with exhalation valves work provided you cover up the valve so you're not blasting air all over?
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Hey, it doesn't just make you literally poo poo out your intestines, it also makes you go blind. those people were blind WITH horse paste, not blind FROM horse paste
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if achilles is your local pharmacist selling you immortality with horse paste who is hector in this analogy
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McCracAttack posted:Whole lotta "I'm hanging in there." out this way. I'm partial to "not great not terrible"
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Aug 30, 2021 16:27
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crepeface posted:Florida's numbers have been hosed up for awhile. people keep posting when it happens but I can't remember specifics. DeSantis literally tried to disappear a data scientist over it
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1432161188717211649 Only one of our picks, the disposable 8210, is appropriate for protecting both yourself and others from the coronavirus, because it filters exhalations as well as incoming air. (The other models have unfiltered exhalation valves.) For information on masks designed to prevent coronavirus transmission, see our guide to cloth face masks and our research into KN95 masks. with some garbage articles on cloth masks and another on kn95 masks but they also boost lovely surgical masks what the gently caress how is this being published in august 2021
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You understand that nursing home residents are discharged from the hospital back to their place of residence, right? The alternative to putting them back in their place of residence was to discharge them to a dumpster. Infectious covid patients were being put into nursing homes to make more space in hospitals. There's no worse decision to make than that. Even if you were an idiot who said "being safe is stupid" and thought it was pure fomite transmission, nursing homes were STILL the worst place to put infectious people since people with Alzheimer's and everything else weren't going to be able to be as safe around each other
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Schnorkles posted:if achilles is your local pharmacist selling you immortality with horse paste who is hector in this analogy i don't know but I hope it means Odysseus the health inspector is coming back
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Demon Of The Fall posted:I really hope this starts to happen more. Force these idiots to do the right thing. Iron Crowned posted:Judge orders West Chester Hospital to treat patient with anti-parasite drug despite CDC warning against it The supreme court decision about this is going to be wild. We're all going to be ordered to eat horse paste.
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mastershakeman posted:Infectious covid patients were being put into nursing homes to make more space in hospitals. You understand that the patients with covid who were discharged to nursing homes were residents of those homes and not random people with covid, right? That point is the load-bearing part of the lie.
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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? Information like that is so easily distorted by political/capital influences that it makes comparisons a futile exercise. Who is overseeing and/or auditing "cause of death" conclusions in a state where the leaders endorse policies that increase spread and exposure? Especially a year after they fired a health data specialist that tried to whistleblow, then threatened her, had cops raid her house, and had her in jail at some point. If Excess Death is tracked on a state-by-state month-to-month level then I'd use that as a point of comparison. If the difference between covid death and excess death is significant then there's good reason to investigate further.
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skewetoo posted:What's his username? well thanks to my elastomeric i can ask him next time i'm in that area. one time phil had a sign calling a local landscaper a satanist whore because she was on the city council and tried to stop him. in the fall (likely as i type this) fresh faced 18 year olds debate him. this is a fool's errand, of course. you can't even laugh at phil. he just laughs with you. honestly he's unstoppable. thanks to students sucking and loving he is a negligible threat to the public health of the town in the scheme of things, tho
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I'm partial to "not great not terrible" a guy i used to work with always said "better than i was before i got as bad as i used to be" and i wish i could un-hear that rear end in a top hat
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Norton posted:Why do New Jersey and New York have significantly higher deaths rates from COVID than Florida does? Is that just lag in reporting deaths in FL? Was NY massively under reporting cases but accurately counting deaths? Is Florida under counting deaths and will that show up in the excess death numbers? Vaccines helping? part of it is lag in reporting - florida is doing everything in their power to underreport to make desantis look better. part of it is vaccination. florida's olds, by and large, got their shots. people under 30?  a supermajority is unvaxed.
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Schnorkles posted:if achilles is your local pharmacist selling you immortality with horse paste who is hector in this analogy Achilles is Emily Oster or some other covid influencer and Hector is this thread futilely trying to stop Troy from wheeling the giant wooden horse paste into their gates (mouths)
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Koirhor posted:I think shits about to really hit the fan in the next week or so, both with the hospital situation and the crazies living in their own reality. I had nothing to base this on other than that funny feeling. Most schools open after Labor Day. That’s when things are most likely going to really go downhill.
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Throatwarbler posted:lol are we doing Andrew Cuomo genocide denial now I can't speak for New York, but "Tom Wolf put covid patients in nursing homes to die" is a chud talking point in PA and it is a lie. The lie depends on the listener assuming that random people were being left in nursing homes to die. The people discharged to nursing homes with covid were residents of those nursing homes. The nursing home's job was to isolate and protect those patients and they failed.
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AceOfFlames posted:What if you have none of those things and your family just cares about you being a productive drone and dispensing endless advice about feeding yourself properly find your zen. whether its a walk in the park or watching bumfights via streetbeefs on youtube in your free time. the important point isn't the specific method of decompression/venting, but rather that you have it available.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I'm partial to "not great not terrible" Still wild to think that mini-series came out months before COVID, was a drat warning about all the poo poo we were going to do wrong, and everyone's takeaway was "lol stupid communists."
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You understand that the patients with covid who were discharged to nursing homes were residents of those homes and not random people with covid, right? C'mon PFC there is no lie, there's two parties that committed reckless neglect: - the abysmal protocols within nursing homes that pre-dated the pandemic; - the failure of government to intervene when the pandemic began, and ensure that all necessary measures were taken before transferring infected patients to their home/residence. Edit: And this occurred in tons of metropolises. Montréal had dozens die at a single nursing care facility in March/April 2020. I'm sure the PA chuds twisted the truth into "government implanted the covid in suicide bomber old folks to scare us into compliance" or whatever, but that being bullshit doesn't diminish the harm done by neglectful leadership. It will never happen of course, but manslaughter charges would be justified against...well like half of elected officials that had influence on health care and NPI policies. kalensc fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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Schnorkles posted:if achilles is your local pharmacist selling you immortality with horse paste who is hector in this analogy hector is cspam. blue maga is paris
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AceOfFlames posted:SLAM IN THE BACK OF MY DRAGULA
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You understand that the patients with covid who were discharged to nursing homes were residents of those homes and not random people with covid, right? Why does that matter at all If there's a plague you shouldn't be shoving the plague people into the riskiest place for spread even if that's where they were originally from. Put them in a quarantine hotel or a field hospital or anywhere else. A campsite. Not nursing homes If public officials get to wash their hands of ant responsibility because "this is how things were before" then those officials jobs shouldn't exist
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kalensc posted:C'mon PFC there is no lie, there's two parties that committed reckless neglect: Both of these things are true, neither of these add up to the chud talking point that Pennsylvania was putting covid patients in nursing homes to die.
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and everyone in the afterlife will know the story of c-spam, the forum who thought it stopped ivermectin
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