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Ardennes posted:The Max is really inconvenient to use if you don’t live exactly on one of its right of ways (many of which are just in out of the way spots) and often it less useful than taking a bus unless you specifically are going to downtown from a couple select areas. Also, since it is so slow downtown it makes it a lot less useful to use it across the metro area. yeah, portland's transit mode share having been basically stagnant since 2000 despite multiple line openings is an indictment of the routings being built
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actionjackson posted:no I live in prospect park right on the minneapolis/st paul border, I hate the suburbs. My parents live in the suburbs though. At least you have the transitway nearby. I lived in prospect for years and took that to the dinkytown Greenway right into downtown. I still miss that bike access.
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duomo posted:yeah, portland's transit mode share having been basically stagnant since 2000 despite multiple line openings is an indictment of the routings being built Yeah, the Green and Orange lines in particular really didn’t add much in ridership and if you know the city it makes a lot of sense since they service relatively marginal portions of largely suburban neighborhoods and generally just connect to the city center and have right of ways in middle of freeways/rail yards/golf courses. Also they hiked basic fares up to 2.50 a ride back in the early 2010s which really capped off ridership. Even today that is more expensive then a lot of cities that are significantly larger and with better service than Portland. Granted, the city has also has been ignoring biking infrastructure as well with only a handful of projects done here and there over the last few years. Portland still has been then average infrastructure in general but it has been phoning it in. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 03:12 on Aug 29, 2021 |
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actionjackson posted:the entire infrastructure of the US was designed for cars, you can't blame people for that, it's the loving government and auto industry yeah gently caress you
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:yeah gently caress you what kind of suv do you drive
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lobster shirt posted:although i was really excited earlier this year because a lovely condemned building got knocked down in my area and i was hoping for something cool to go there but its just a drat gas station (normal sized) Why would you assume that? Anything that's getting built anymore is an ugly piece of poo poo
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actionjackson posted:what kind of suv do you drive https://i.imgur.com/aStvq7j.mp4
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Milo and POTUS posted:Why would you assume that? Anything that's getting built anymore is an ugly piece of poo poo well a bar or restaurant or shop or townhomes or a small apartment building or basically anything other than more fuckin car infrastructure would have been better.
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People always scream "Eco-Fascist!" at me for saying this but they're morons. The truth is that America is going to have to do a massive amount of Urban Restructuring and resettlement in the next century and a huge part of that will unfortunately include essentially telling lots of people "Look we can't environmentally support this McMansion exurb in the Arizona desert. You're going to have to move into a more compact metropolitan area." Because if we don't do that then the environmental collapse will destroy these exurbs/suburbs anyway. We need to do it where we can do it gradually and smoothly while providing the displaced new homes and compensating them for their lives being upended through rigorous social services, because otherwise it will happen all at once some day when there's suddenly no gas to get people out of these suburban deathtraps or stock their grocery stores. Or the power and AC goes out in 120 degree weather. And in that case lots of people are going to die. And this will mean a lot of really inefficient uses of space are going to have to be prohibited namely these giant highways and the car culture they enable. Like LA ( just using it since it's the most well known example of Car Blight) as it currently exists really can't be allowed to continue.
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galagazombie posted:People always scream "Eco-Fascist!" at me for saying this but they're morons. The truth is that America is going to have to do a massive amount of Urban Restructuring and resettlement in the next century and a huge part of that will unfortunately include essentially telling lots of people "Look we can't environmentally support this McMansion exurb in the Arizona desert. You're going to have to move into a more compact metropolitan area." Because if we don't do that then the environmental collapse will destroy these exurbs/suburbs anyway. We need to do it where we can do it gradually and smoothly while providing the displaced new homes and compensating them for their lives being upended through rigorous social services, because otherwise it will happen all at once some day when there's suddenly no gas to get people out of these suburban deathtraps or stock their grocery stores. Or the power and AC goes out in 120 degree weather. And in that case lots of people are going to die. And this will mean a lot of really inefficient uses of space are going to have to be prohibited namely these giant highways and the car culture they enable. Like LA ( just using it since it's the most well known example of Car Blight) as it currently exists really can't be allowed to continue. they'll die of displacement like most of the climate refugees
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galagazombie posted:People always scream "Eco-Fascist!" at me for saying this but they're morons. The truth is that America is going to have to do a massive amount of Urban Restructuring and resettlement in the next century and a huge part of that will unfortunately include essentially telling lots of people "Look we can't environmentally support this McMansion exurb in the Arizona desert. You're going to have to move into a more compact metropolitan area." Because if we don't do that then the environmental collapse will destroy these exurbs/suburbs anyway. We need to do it where we can do it gradually and smoothly while providing the displaced new homes and compensating them for their lives being upended through rigorous social services, because otherwise it will happen all at once some day when there's suddenly no gas to get people out of these suburban deathtraps or stock their grocery stores. Or the power and AC goes out in 120 degree weather. And in that case lots of people are going to die. And this will mean a lot of really inefficient uses of space are going to have to be prohibited namely these giant highways and the car culture they enable. Like LA ( just using it since it's the most well known example of Car Blight) as it currently exists really can't be allowed to continue. because i think you and other people would like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0
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galagazombie posted:People always scream "Eco-Fascist!" at me for saying this but they're morons. The truth is that America is going to have to do a massive amount of Urban Restructuring and resettlement in the next century and a huge part of that will unfortunately include essentially telling lots of people "Look we can't environmentally support this McMansion exurb in the Arizona desert. You're going to have to move into a more compact metropolitan area." Because if we don't do that then the environmental collapse will destroy these exurbs/suburbs anyway. We need to do it where we can do it gradually and smoothly while providing the displaced new homes and compensating them for their lives being upended through rigorous social services, because otherwise it will happen all at once some day when there's suddenly no gas to get people out of these suburban deathtraps or stock their grocery stores. Or the power and AC goes out in 120 degree weather. And in that case lots of people are going to die. And this will mean a lot of really inefficient uses of space are going to have to be prohibited namely these giant highways and the car culture they enable. Like LA ( just using it since it's the most well known example of Car Blight) as it currently exists really can't be allowed to continue. Once it's apparent to even the stupidest people that suburbs will become uninhabitable, I believe that the rich and privileged will begin fleeing to metropolitan areas. Elderly/poor/bipoc people will be forced into the suburbs, which will become like ghettos, only worse because they'll be even farther away from services and even more expensive for cities to maintain. In some places this is already happening. I'm sure that the suburbs will eventually die, but it won't be the privileged SUV drivers who brought them into being who will be paying the price.
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Sphyre posted:https://twitter.com/retronouns/status/1431447868989218817 they have simultaneously the busiest and cleanest bathrooms of any gas station
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walking is political https://twitter.com/A_W_Gordon/status/1432332333865111556
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The only moral fascism is eco-fascism, and make no mistake, eco-fascism is coming.
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paul_soccer12 posted:Bernie Ecclestone should be killed went to wikipedia for a fun time, here he is speaking about hitler: "terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was – in the way that he could command a lot of people – able to get things done." and then a follow-on regarding UK politics: "If you have a look at a democracy it hasn't done a lot of good for many countries — including this one" and then goes on to recommend some british fascist as prime minister lmao 
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paul_soccer12 posted:Bernie Ecclestone should be killed https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/dec/12/bernie-ecclestone-muggers
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Lastgirl posted:walking is political https://twitter.com/A_W_Gordon/status/1432333033038913538 Tale as old as time, "everyone else should take transit so that my car trip isn't slowed down by congestion!"
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no cool car posting in the car hate thread  if i can restrain myself so can you
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yard salad posted:Once it's apparent to even the stupidest people that suburbs will become uninhabitable, I believe that the rich and privileged will begin fleeing to metropolitan areas. Elderly/poor/bipoc people will be forced into the suburbs, which will become like ghettos, only worse because they'll be even farther away from services and even more expensive for cities to maintain. In some places this is already happening. I'm sure that the suburbs will eventually die, but it won't be the privileged SUV drivers who brought them into being who will be paying the price. They'll definitely try this, but I don't think it will really work. They totally will try and ship all the poor/poc/olds into these emptying suburbs, and as you pointed out they already are in some places, but they won't be able to keep them there. Because as you said, they'll stop supporting the suburbs existence once well off whites aren't the ones living in them. But things as basic as food only work in the suburbs thank to stuff like cheap gas making mega grocery stores feasible. And no one will stay still when they're starving to death. If that happens you can expect roving bands of those who were pushed out into the suburbs moving on the city centers. My greatest fear is that, unable to corral them in the suburbs, we will start putting people in concentration camps.
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In fact my plan to de-car the USA in it's more aggressive phases involves a whole fleet of flame belching truckasaurii roaming the asphalt of the US for single occupany large vehicles upon which it shall vainly attempt to satisfy their bottomless appetite. They will siphon all the fuel they use from the cars they rip in half and devour to the delight of millions and thus are carbon neutral
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Epic High Five posted:In fact my plan to de-car the USA in it's more aggressive phases involves a whole fleet of flame belching truckasaurii roaming the asphalt of the US for single occupany large vehicles upon which it shall vainly attempt to satisfy their bottomless appetite. They will siphon all the fuel they use from the cars they rip in half and devour to the delight of millions and thus are carbon neutral gently caress yes.
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Epic High Five posted:In fact my plan to de-car the USA in it's more aggressive phases involves a whole fleet of flame belching truckasaurii roaming the asphalt of the US for single occupany large vehicles upon which it shall vainly attempt to satisfy their bottomless appetite. They will siphon all the fuel they use from the cars they rip in half and devour to the delight of millions and thus are carbon neutral But what predator will we have to introduce to take care of the Truckasaurus population.
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galagazombie posted:But what predator will we have to introduce to take care of the Truckasaurus population. They either starve for lack of fuel or kill us all, the choice is ours
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galagazombie posted:But what predator will we have to introduce to take care of the Truckasaurus population. No worries, truckasaurus is a highly territorial creature and violence between individuals keeps their population in check
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akadajet posted:they have simultaneously the busiest and cleanest bathrooms of any gas station how do they do it folks
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cars at shows or zoos are no biggie, just like airplanes the problem is that they're loving everywhere containing them there is perfect, bye
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Lastgirl posted:cars at shows or zoos are no biggie, just like airplanes this is correct
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galagazombie posted:They'll definitely try this, but I don't think it will really work. They totally will try and ship all the poor/poc/olds into these emptying suburbs, and as you pointed out they already are in some places, but they won't be able to keep them there. Because as you said, they'll stop supporting the suburbs existence once well off whites aren't the ones living in them. But things as basic as food only work in the suburbs thank to stuff like cheap gas making mega grocery stores feasible. And no one will stay still when they're starving to death. If that happens you can expect roving bands of those who were pushed out into the suburbs moving on the city centers. My greatest fear is that, unable to corral them in the suburbs, we will start putting people in concentration camps. the diffuse nature of modern suburbs explicitly discourages the organization required for activism, much less riots, which I think you’re describing - although a stepford wives/ mad max crossover sounds like an apt description of what might happen. I think in this hypothetical death of the suburbs at the hands of capital neglect, there will be invented some kind of typically neoliberal solution to exploit last of the people living there there are already decaying postwar suburbs in my deeply segregated Midwest city that are completely car-dependent. the whole house of cards is held up by cheap gas and lovely used cars. the moment those become unaffordable, poo poo will go down
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