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Dalmuti posted:So you think people are going to adhere to that law in good faith? i think china runs a massive surveillance state and can absolutely see how much time citizens spend online
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Aren't gaming companies required to link their customers logins to china's system that makes monitoring how much they play trivial? How effective is vpning from china? I am sure there are ways around it, but none of them sound very convenient and it seems like people might be underestimating this change.
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Hexel posted:i think china runs a massive surveillance state and can absolutely see how much time citizens spend online Aren’t the Chinese playing in FRT all using a VPN?
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evilweasel posted:did you know that it's illegal for most college students to drink in the united states meanwhile in the dorms *hits bong*
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zegermans posted:tbf we took Delve from LUMPY The only thing I remember clearly from that time is Fawlty7 was in LUMPY, and it was always his birthday!
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Hexel posted:i think china runs a massive surveillance state and can absolutely see how much time citizens spend online Monolithic all powerful state with nigh unlimited resources vs teenager who wants to play games and look at porn. I know who I’m putting my money on and it isn’t the state.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Monolithic all powerful state with nigh unlimited resources vs teenager who wants to play games and look at porn. I know who I’m putting my money on and it isn’t the state. Xi is currently conducting a societal wide crackdown on tech and information sharing so I think some people are being naive.
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Hexenritter posted:Marvellous! I pledge my mediocrity to the cause. The only thing worth taking into account is that if you join GEWNS in-game, you will immediately become a target to most of the rest of the game, a large portion of which is in highsec and spaces-not-Delve. There is definitely content to do out in our space, but you will probably not want to stick around doing missions after joining. If you want to get your feet under you in hisec for a little while, there are a few high-security divisions of groups that are goons-adjacent (Karmafleet University, ascee university, others) I think the best way to learn Eve is to move to nulsec, but I haven't played the new player experience in a decade so I don't know how much it has improved.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Monolithic all powerful state with nigh unlimited resources vs teenager who wants to play games and look at porn. I know who I’m putting my money on and it isn’t the state. Yeah my money’s on the tank’s treads personally.
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It makes me a bit sad to see the glorious goonwiki so out of date on so many things. A lot of the ship pages haven't been updated since 2016 and it feels like it lacks a lot of the more recent changes to the game. I don't know gently caress-all about anything in the game anymore, so can't even do my part to help out.
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Foulbrood posted:It makes me a bit sad to see the glorious goonwiki so out of date on so many things. A lot of the ship pages haven't been updated since 2016 and it feels like it lacks a lot of the more recent changes to the game. I don't know gently caress-all about anything in the game anymore, so can't even do my part to help out. Time to sniff dexadrine and ask a buncha people poo poo on your quest to revamp the wiki then ain’t it?
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TheWeedNumber posted:Time to sniff dexadrine and ask a buncha people poo poo on your quest to revamp the wiki then ain’t it?
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You are kidding yourself if you think china's youth are actually playing grognard spaceship game "EVE Online" and not some LoL ripoff or gacha hell.
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Foulbrood posted:What if I'm straight edge? Then what will I sniff? Your own farts
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TheWeedNumber posted:Your own farts That's a full on huff, not just a sniff
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Since coming back I've been kind of enjoying trying a bunch of the different newbish player experiences and running the career lines. I've done a bunch of lower tiered abyssals (and lost a Gila in a T4 due to my own stupidity and lack of research) and even some mining. Still not sure if I'll stick to the game this time and rejoin the swarm, but I've now sent a brand new player I met while doing mining, and one higher level abyssal runner to Karmafleet, ruining their Eve experience forever I'm sure.
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PathAsc posted:That's a full on huff, not just a sniff The straightedge life calls for commitment doesn’t it? Dig deep
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TheWeedNumber posted:The straightedge life calls for commitment doesn’t it? Dig deep I don't need to dig for my poop-sock
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PathAsc posted:I don't need to dig for my poop-sock Breathe deep too
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I remember contributing a lot to the moon mining and t2 production pages pre-structure/goo changes and then when structure changes happened I just gave up. I also was hesitant to remove fittings from ship pages because I just didn’t feel like an authority to say some of the 10 year old fits were garbage or deprecated. That wiki is a trove of knowledge but so much is now archaic, and the biggest issue is a LOT of language needs to be changed and it is overwhelming when it is crowd sourced without much guidance. Standardized templates to use, plus language editors are specifically needed.
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I made an image with warp-times for various travelceptors around 2015 and it's still on the wiki as "USE THESE FITS OR YOU WILL DIE" iirc
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dialhforhero posted:I remember contributing a lot to the moon mining and t2 production pages pre-structure/goo changes and then when structure changes happened I just gave up. The wiki is in such a sad state that it's probably going to be easier to start a new one from scratch, and archive the current one so we can bring content over. Yes, I know this is what happened with Confluence, but I think it's pretty unlikely the software will change - just a lot of the cruft and junk will get left behind.
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The wiki is more of a lore book than anything. The needed articles like joining up, who’s who, and how to get on comms are up to date. There is almost no need for anything else as all the relevant and up to date info on ship fits et. al. Are in their own forum subsections and posts. The wiki itself is actually unnecessary.
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dialhforhero posted:The wiki is more of a lore book than anything. The needed articles like joining up, who’s who, and how to get on comms are up to date. There is almost no need for anything else as all the relevant and up to date info on ship fits et. al. Are in their own forum subsections and posts. Forum threads for keeping up with fits kind of blows. Anything but capitals IMO.
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Sickening posted:Forum threads for keeping up with fits kind of blows. Anything but capitals IMO. yep! I hate looking for the magical forum post that contains the fit I need to check, click on spoiler tags to expand, scroll for about a year, find the fit, import fit, then add skills to the queue. That is a bunch of work to find out I can't fly [INSERT SHIP].
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It used to be even worse when all the thread names were cutesy references instead of just telling you which loving ship
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ASAPI posted:yep! u can just do this all in-game now one click to simulate fitting and it immediately gives a display of what skills are lacking and how long to train them even
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dialhforhero posted:The wiki is more of a lore book than anything. The needed articles like joining up, who’s who, and how to get on comms are up to date. There is almost no need for anything else as all the relevant and up to date info on ship fits et. al. Are in their own forum subsections and posts. h
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The Protagonist posted:u can just do this all in-game now They're complaining about searching for the fits on the GSF forums. "import fit", from their post, is what you're saying.
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ASAPI posted:yep! The fit validation tool has pretty much all doctrine fits ready for copy/paste, that saves a fair amount of forum digging.
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Searching a forum vs searching the wiki for fits isn't really a debatable from a usability standpoint, the wiki is just better for this(but out of date). I assume that the folks who make the effort posts for doing fits don't want to or don't have access to just update the wiki with the fit, but its just worse not to have them there. It would be super duper cool if these fits were just managed in game with the tools already provided, but it seems its only at the corp level and that is even more  . Until they make an alliance fittings section, you are at the mercy of those in your corp to make it easier on you.Skiant posted:The fit validation tool has pretty much all doctrine fits ready for copy/paste, that saves a fair amount of forum digging. Are you in waffe? I would bet isk on that unless something has changed really recently. I remember setting up a ship after the horn sounded from the ingame corp fittings and being told I was dumb and wrong. Sickening fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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Sickening posted:Forum threads for keeping up with fits kind of blows. Anything but capitals IMO.  drat that was really hard Mr. Grinch fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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Mr. Grinch posted:https://imgur.com/a/sJw2ltC Look at this dude breaking opsec
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Sickening posted:Searching a forum vs searching the wiki for fits isn't really a debatable from a usability standpoint, the wiki is just better for this(but out of date). I assume that the folks who make the effort posts for doing fits don't want to or don't have access to just update the wiki with the fit, but its just worse not to have them there. It's more "don't want to" coupled with the inability to make it so some random ASCEE doofus can't go in and gently caress with the page.
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Mr. Grinch posted:https://imgur.com/a/sJw2ltC Case in point. That thread is not as easy as typing in "jackdaw" in the loving wiki. dragonshardz posted:It's more "don't want to" coupled with the inability to make it so some random ASCEE doofus can't go in and gently caress with the page. Fair but also frustrating. Sickening fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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