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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Looked this up, absolutly gobsmacked what I found it's a 4000 dollar option?!?! It makes sense when your target demographic has so much money it's basically impossible to rip them off.
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There's also the fact that you're going to sell literally 1000x fewer of them to offset the fixed costs.
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Aug 30, 2021 23:49
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All I can think of when I see this is that Hyundai just reinvented the Explorer Sport Trac https://twitter.com/dsgolson/status/1432398124429971456?s=21
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KillHour posted:There's also the fact that you're going to sell literally 1000x fewer of them to offset the fixed costs. Ferrari being owned by Stellanis and being a parts binner means they dont have that excuse. Also see : Lambo, Audi, BMW, Bentley, Porsche, Rolls Royce et all, being part of much larger groups where they can parts bin from pretty much anywhere. Hell, EBay has basic stuff that will CarPlay or Android whatever. Just loving nuts I could get a basic shitter Subaru with ACC, Carplay and all of sorts of stuff standard that in some prestige car makers ... would add up to the cost of the Subaru -_-
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Godzilla07 posted:All I can think of when I see this is that Hyundai just reinvented the Explorer Sport Trac lol holy gently caress
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Ferrari being owned by Stellanis and being a parts binner means they dont have that excuse. Also see : Lambo, Audi, BMW, Bentley, Porsche, Rolls Royce et all, being part of much larger groups where they can parts bin from pretty much anywhere. Hell, EBay has basic stuff that will CarPlay or Android whatever. https://www.apex.one/articles/mygig-the-story-of-an-infotainment-system/ That’s an older story but surely today it’s not like the OEM’s are actually doing much of the development anyway, it’ll all be suppliers. Worth noting that there are no licensing fees for CarPlay or Android Auto.
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Aug 31, 2021 00:32
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Godzilla07 posted:All I can think of when I see this is that Hyundai just reinvented the Explorer Sport Trac The Maverick is looking waaaay better than that, geezus
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Looked this up, absolutly gobsmacked what I found it's a 4000 dollar option?!?! Luxury car makers get away with it because they know they can get away with it, just like most cheap hotels give away wifi for free but expensive hotels charge for it. Godzilla07 posted:All I can think of when I see this is that Hyundai just reinvented the Explorer Sport Trac That's ... a lot bigger than I thought it would be. Especially in the comparison shots with the modern Tacoma that's posted down the twitter thread.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Ferrari being owned by Stellanis and being a parts binner means they dont have that excuse. Also see : Lambo, Audi, BMW, Bentley, Porsche, Rolls Royce et all, being part of much larger groups where they can parts bin from pretty much anywhere. Hell, EBay has basic stuff that will CarPlay or Android whatever. things are priced on the buyer's willingness to pay, not what they cost
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Just loving nuts I could get a basic shitter Subaru with ACC, Carplay and all of sorts of stuff standard that in some prestige car makers ... would add up to the cost of the Subaru -_- Yeah honestly I don't see why a normal person would even care. It's not like any of us are going to be buying a new Ferrari anytime soon, and if we are we can certainly afford the cost of overpriced options. gently caress the rich, let them pay extra for what we get for "free".
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The Santa Cruz I saw didn't seem out of line big to me, I walked by one the other night. It is tall, but so is everything now. 
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It's just a Tuscon, idk why anyone had trouble imagining how big the SC is.
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Charles posted:The Santa Cruz I saw didn't seem out of line big to me, I walked by one the other night. It is tall, but so is everything now. It is taller than the Explorer but the angle of the shot is making it look a little bigger than it is.
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Neo_Crimson posted:It is taller than the Explorer but the angle of the shot is making it look a little bigger than it is. It’s 3+ inches shorter than the current Explorer in height.
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hey I saw a 2021 Kia Telluride on the road today and what The hell did they do to their emblem https://twitter.com/kia/status/1432434208396529673?s=21 I was so confused what “KN” could be but then I saw the name e/ another emblem gripe - why does Cadillac scale their little shield relative to the size of the car? it’s minuscule on the back of a CT4 but huge on an Escalade it’s silly wolfs fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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Deliveries for the '22 BRZ started this week in Japan. One tuner already put one on a dyno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVBOOvYds7E
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wolfs posted:hey I saw a 2021 Kia Telluride on the road today and what The hell did they do to their emblem What are you talking about? Clearly it says КИ.  As far as I understand it, the pronunciation isn't that far off albeit incomplete. (It would be pronounced like "key" though anyone more familiar can school me.) I have no idea if Kia has a presence in Eastern Europe or if they thought through how the new emblem would be perceived in other markets but at least it's not being completely butchered.
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wolfs posted:hey I saw a 2021 Kia Telluride on the road today and what The hell did they do to their emblem Goddammit just use the KDM emblems.
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Symetrique posted:Deliveries for the '22 BRZ started this week in Japan. 215ish hp at the rear hubs is...pretty good!
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Yeah honestly I don't see why a normal person would even care. It's not like any of us are going to be buying a new Ferrari anytime soon, and if we are we can certainly afford the cost of overpriced options. gently caress the rich, let them pay extra for what we get for "free". Fwiw the Ferrari dealer told me only a minority get Carplay (30% or so)
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got off on a technicality posted:Cruise control for $1,500 says hold my beer On the new Maverick it's over $2k Most cheaper cars won't outright charge you a bunch of money for it, they'll just make sure you have to go up a trim level to get it.
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BraveUlysses posted:215ish hp at the rear hubs is...pretty good! For sure, that’s excellent, and indicates just 10% driveline loss…if it’s accurate. Can’t put too much weight on a single dyno number because it might not be calibrated right or just reads high, like Motortrend did with the C8. In any case, the new 86 twins look great and seem to have improved everything about the old ones while ruining nothing.
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i own every Bionicle posted:For sure, that’s excellent, and indicates just 10% driveline loss…if it’s accurate. Can’t put too much weight on a single dyno number because it might not be calibrated right or just reads high, like Motortrend did with the C8. I thought they were rated for 225bhp? This would indicate it’s slightly underrated, no?
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got off on a technicality posted:Fwiw the Ferrari dealer told me only a minority get Carplay (30% or so) Like, if you are only going to put 3000 (nice weather, cruising) miles a year on it then yeah, you probably want to listen to the engine and already know where you are going. edit: LOL, who am I kidding? It's because the people buying Ferrari's in the US are old and can't figure out their phones, much less car play. Murgos fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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Wonderllama posted:I thought they were rated for 225bhp? This would indicate it’s slightly underrated, no? Oh you’re right, I thought it was 240 for some reason. Yes it would mean it’s underrated…if the dyno is accurate.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Ferrari being owned by Stellanis and being a parts binner means they dont have that excuse. Didn't Sergio spin them off into their own independent company before he passed?
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PeterWeller posted:Didn't Sergio spin them off into their own independent company before he passed? AFAIK there is no direct control between Ferrari and Stellantis but there is a good deal of overlap in the shareholder base. 80% of Ferrari shares were distributed to FCA shareholders at the time of the IPO, and Exor NV (a holding company controlled by the Agnelli family) owns about ~a quarter of Ferrari with ~a third of the voting rights. Exor also holds ~14% of Stellantis, and Sergio, before he passed, was Vice Chairman at Exor. So one could imagine cooperation between the two entities etc etc
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got off on a technicality posted:Cruise control for $1,500 says hold my beer You mean it's not a subscription?
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Ferrari being owned by Stellanis and being a parts binner means they dont have that excuse. Also see : Lambo, Audi, BMW, Bentley, Porsche, Rolls Royce et all, being part of much larger groups where they can parts bin from pretty much anywhere. Hell, EBay has basic stuff that will CarPlay or Android whatever. They have no parts bin to rummage through, just to buy whatever other OEMs do or develop their own. e; fb by better posts Kivi fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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Gangringo posted:On the new Maverick it's over $2k That's changing quickly though. Market dependent of course but in NZ Toyota has radar cruise across most of the range even the basic plastic hubcap Yaris.
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trouser chili posted:You mean it's not a subscription? 
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Can someone tell me what doing this to your rear wheels accomplishes?
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Shoulder wear.
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The car has been lowered a bunch, that's the point. The rear tires pick up a lot of camber (number of degrees off from vertical) as the suspension compresses, where the fronts stay closer to vertical due to different suspension design. Adding more (negative, top of tire moved toward the car centerline) camber can also help the wheel & tire clear the fender lip. In normal settings, the steeper camber curve from double wishbone designs results in a better handling car and better grip in turns: this is the reason the Miata and 1988-2000 Civics were so much better than their peers, but struts take up less space and are cheaper. Most cars have struts in the front for cost/space reasons.
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Those wheels are just scared of thunderstorms and the fender arches are a nice safe place to hide.
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i own every Bionicle posted:Oh you’re right, I thought it was 240 for some reason. Yes it would mean it’s underrated…if the dyno is accurate. Another dyno video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H-gzIIGdiI 221.44 ps @ 6769 rpm at the rear hub. Promising numbers.
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It's finally going to catch that rascally Miata
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heffray posted:The car has been lowered a bunch, that's the point. The rear tires pick up a lot of camber (number of degrees off from vertical) as the suspension compresses, where the fronts stay closer to vertical due to different suspension design. Adding more (negative, top of tire moved toward the car centerline) camber can also help the wheel & tire clear the fender lip. I'm sorry I'm confused: are you saying the car in that picture is good?
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Are you saying it's not? Look at the squat from all the downforce that wing is creating!
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Symetrique posted:Deliveries for the '22 BRZ started this week in Japan. The scale on the torque graph make the torque dip look massive.  i own every Bionicle posted:In any case, the new 86 twins look great and seem to have improved everything about the old ones while ruining nothing. It seemed from the press videos there was a model of the Toyota GR86 without the Subaru Eyesight system. My question is there a BRZ trim that doesn't have it either? Coredump fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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