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the fittings are easily located on both the forums as well as ingame in the chat channel, where the list can be copied and imported into the multibuy feature, the in game fitting tool ,etc The wiki often is just an image of some pyfa nerd poo poo or the "fit" uses jargon/not the real module name etc If you really think its easier to use the wiki for ship fittings you may have brain damage Sickening posted:It would be super duper cool if these fits were just managed in game with the tools already provided, but it seems its only at the corp level and that is even more jesus christ are you unaware of goonfits? this is literally already true, you can login and use it right now Mr. Grinch fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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. Until they make an alliance fittings section, you are at the mercy of those in your corp to make it easier on you.
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Good news! Being a loving wikipedia that means ANYONE can update it! I imagine the ~~I M P O R T A N T~~ pages like fittings for doctrines are forums posts because of security and the fact that even if you locked the pages for editing you could theoretically spoof it.
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Want to make an eve goon aggro? Suggest their way of doing things is frustrating and they are going to go full toxic mode. JFC Yes, its so easy! Just click through in game chat channels to find hopefully find the fit for the ship you are looking for, its only 5 channels deep. How could this be seen as confusing at all. :condi:
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Sickening posted:Want to make an eve goon aggro? Suggest their way of doing things is frustrating and they are going to go full toxic mode. JFC its really not??? :???:
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Aug 30, 2021 22:38
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They're literally just in game.
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Sickening posted:Want to make an eve goon aggro? Suggest their way of doing things is frustrating and they are going to go full toxic mode. JFC We just had several people feelgood posting about how awesome it is now that we can ping get in fleet and undock in under five minutes so yes im very invested in reducing the number of dipshits that take entire minutes to do what should take you seconds down to zero and its not like this is new information so i see no reason to be polite about it
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Aug 30, 2021 22:49
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Mr. Grinch posted:We just had several people feelgood posting about how awesome it is now that we can ping get in fleet and undock in under five minutes so yes im very invested in reducing the number of dipshits that take entire minutes to do what should take you seconds down to zero Ok
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Hahahhahahahaa! How the hell did we win this war? Half of us are crippled with the prospect of not being spoon fed (myself included) information. Papi must have been worse than we can imagine to lose to us. I’m finding this discussion funny.
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I asked "where's the fittings" I got a forums link. "oh." I made a mental note of the subforum. " where's the jackdaw fitting" I asked myself. Ctrl-F, "jac--" there it is ok cool there's all the mainline and support info I need, plus how to fly them cool that was easy
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Potato Salad posted:I asked "where's the fittings" hey thats not fair you used the Find In Page feature instead of searching the entire forums for the string "jackdaw" next youll tell me to stop licking electric sockets
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I think it's a little old school to have threads in a forum for the fittings, but it makes sense stylistically since we're playing EVE online.
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ASAPI posted:Hahahhahahahaa! i think you'll find we actually lost according to the EULA
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On one hand, It Can Always Be Easier™, but on the other hand it still surprises me how many people don't understand how ^F or ^C^V work
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Both arguments are actually correct: Is it actually “easy” to find this information? Yes. But the information’s presentation is unfortunately presented with the bias of the presenter and what they know about a wiki or a forum, etc. It’s simple for YOU but obviously enough people don’t so this implies the existence of a solvable problem. Instructions are incredibly tricky and if you aren’t familiar with the lingo or community, etc., even the most “simple” of instructions can be lost on the newcomer. The author(s) of instructions often don’t step back to think of the POV of the uninitiated. This is actually a big thing that classroom teachers and instructors learn (and continue to learn and improve on if they are any good). The system IS easy, but did you TEACH/SHOW others how easy it is? The fact that someone literally said “I can’t believe people don’t know about CTRL-F!” Is a case in point. It’s the very reason people complain and say they “can’t believe how others don’t know about thing!” It’s not that they CAN’T know it, they literally were never taught it! NEVER take for granted or assume the knowledge other people have. The fault imo is on the forums and wiki and Goons and not having a real “center” for information. If we want to be as newbie friendly as possible, we need to make the steps to initial knowledge of this game as simple and layman as possible and provide at least the basics of the gameplay in an easily accessible format. Is it via the in-game fittings window? A wiki? A forum post? All three? A big problem that you should be noticing by now is that all three of those resources have their uses and pros/cons but only one can be easily navigated that can present information in chunks, with images and simple language, in a platform most are at least familiar with (the wiki). Please refer to good wiki articles like the application process and mumble as examples. (At least last I checked forever ago).  The irony is not lost on me with that statement. dialhforhero fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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Honestly, like I said, the wiki needs a rebuild from the ground up with the ability to lock pages behind certain auth groups (EG only Fitings team can update the doctrine pages) and interwiki with the EVE Uni wiki so we can focus it on stuff that's actually useful like newbee advice, preserving cultural artifacts (Sions' essays, for example), and ancillary useful stuff like Abyssal guides, KrabSwarm how-tos, et cetera. The current wiki is just so much of a mess that trying to clean it up is a quite route to burnout.
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this whole thing could have been a corpmail
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Dalmuti posted:this whole thing could have been a corpmail And it probably will be
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ZekeNY posted:And it probably will be naw GSF stands for "No Fun League" these days
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Dalmuti posted:naw GSF stands for "No Fun League" these days Oh my, am I seeing stolen goon valor? Did you reuse my unfunny joke? Shame.
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Dalmuti posted:naw GSF stands for "No Fun League" these days I must have missed the memo on that one -- it's probably buried under the mountains of spam in my corpmail folder
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dialhforhero posted:The fact that someone literally said “I can’t believe people don’t know about CTRL-F!” Is a case in point. I was never taught that ^F exists, though? I figured it out independently by loving around with computer programs.
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Aug 31, 2021 01:02
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Real men search the page with /.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I was never taught that ^F exists, though? I figured it out independently by loving around with computer programs. ok zero cool
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Ajaxify posted:Real men search the page with /. Real men don’t bother with forum fitting requirements- they just throw whatever random modules they have in the hanger on to their ship. No Gods, No SRP.
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dialhforhero posted:
This person aint a new bee they just have the computer navigation skills of that boomer in your office building that doesnt know you can refresh a browser page and closes/reopens chrome to do it
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Mr. Grinch posted:This person aint a new bee they just have the computer navigation skills of that boomer in your office building that doesnt know you can refresh a browser page and closes/reopens chrome to do it I am a computer touches who makes a great living doing it lol.
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Sickening posted:I am a computer touches who makes more money than you lol. But keep going. 
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What else ya got mr grinch.
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Rust fix your goddamn ESI before I boot Rust Martialis and Copperfang out the loving corp. I just get this place cleaned up and your scoot your dirty rear end all over the carpet.
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Sickening posted:What else ya got mr grinch. if I teach you how to use ctrl F do you think youd be so gracious as to trickle down some of your undeserved wealth unto me, a lowly peasant
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Mr. Grinch posted:if I teach you how to use ctrl F do you think youd be so gracious as to trickle down some of your undeserved wealth unto me, a lowly peasant Trickle down this :condi: 
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Sickening posted:Trickle down this what is a "computer touches"? I tried to search the forums and couldnt find it maybe you should use that gigantic salary to take a computer class or something
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Mr. Grinch posted:what is a "computer touches"? I tried to search the forums and couldnt find it 
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it is i, the gatekeeper all ye what can't hold down the ctrl button and tap F are cast from my domain
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The Hambulance posted:The only thing I remember clearly from that time is Fawlty7 was in LUMPY, and it was always his birthday! I wished Fawlty7 a happy birthday via Facebook just now. And then I messaged Grobal7 with an ALL HAIL KING GROBAL, SEVENTH OF HIS NAME...
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andromache posted:Rust fix your goddamn ESI before I boot Rust Martialis and Copperfang out the loving corp. I just get this place cleaned up and your scoot your dirty rear end all over the carpet. I saw "password change fucks ESI" but hadn't been booted so I was "oh I must be ok" but didn't ACTUALLY check. Sorry boss.
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Rust Martialis posted:I saw "password change fucks ESI" but hadn't been booted so I was "oh I must be ok" but didn't ACTUALLY check. Sorry boss. CCP making the ESI rest on a password change was a hateful act, right up there with allowing people to apply to a new corp while having roles in their old one.
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I’m gay and have 8 days left on Cruise Missiles V 
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Kitfox88 posted:I’m gay and have 8 days left on Cruise Missiles V
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i will never fly a cap ever subcap 4 lyfe
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