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What's really frustrating is that it was in fact Good Policing to break out the kiddie gloves and let the mob walk once the officials and staff were evacuated. Tear gas and firefights in the capitol would be bad. I don't even disagree that for every ziptie tacticool guy there was some gormless moron who wandered in, and deserves a lighter sentence than execution via crossfire. But if it had been a BLM crowd, or antifa, or the loving 2017 pussyhat protest, there would have been gassing, beating, and shooting. We all know it.
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Captain Log posted:I am not pro-American policing and overuse of force. I also think the kid gloves used on the white people invading the God damned capitol vs. the brutality used against BLM protestors is a God damned indictment on our country. poo poo. The police officers, in that situation, did not have a preponderance of force, any expectation of reinforcements, not even a responsible person to communicate with. No surprise it ended up like it did, and a huge surprise that it was that way. Good goddamn. It was a zombie horde, in the context of what we've talked about in the TFR Racism and Authoritarianism in the firearms industry thread. Crazy people.
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madeintaipei posted:poo poo. The police officers, in that situation, did not have a preponderance of force, any expectation of reinforcements, not even a responsible person to communicate with. No surprise it ended up like it did, and a huge surprise that it was that way. lol, iirc, they didn't have access to the stronger munitions (tear gas, etc) for hours because no one had thought to give them permission or unlock the door. A bunch of bike cops and lightly armed security guards saved the government, and even when armored units arrived they were getting beaten and crushed in doors while the National Guard sat around prepared but unable to move in because the Pentagon didn't want bad optics (I'm deeply sure that was the only reason). You can see congressional staffers evacuating behind the cops that shot Babbit, and so could they, that's why they flipped out and smashed through the window. Chuds go on and on about how she was unarmed and deliberately ignore that she was the first through a broken door with the immediate purpose of attacking staff, with the entire mob behind her. I hate that she got shot, but I'm also dead certain that if she'd got through, every single person behind her would have rushed in as well, and the handful of cops behind that door would not have been able to hold anyone off. A mob doesn't need to be armed to kill people. And they were armed anyway, they just weren't bristling with guns (because they would have been arrested beforehand, not because they didn't have ill intent. Lol, this group brings guns to every protest they can get away with).
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Aug 28, 2021 21:12
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Biscats n Gravy posted:I genuinely have no idea how JimRob manages to justify still keeping the site up. Edgar Allen Ho raised a good point because I don't think there's a whole lot of young far right STEMlords that would use it. I think it's just hate-addled floridian pensioners and us gawking at the train wreck that gets him literally any traffic.
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Lol I can't believe I forgot about TheDonald If Trump ever shills the vaccine again… he needs to be loudly booed off the stage. This poo poo is destroying our country. quote:–Felizcheese 6 points 1 day ago +6 / -0 quote:OrangeMenace2020 2 points 1 day ago +2 / -0 quote:–plasssticman 0 points 1 day ago +1 / -1
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Aug 29, 2021 02:32
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Are there going to be apocalypse cults waiting for all the vaccinated to keel over, this time for real?
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Aug 29, 2021 11:13
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Are there going to be apocalypse cults waiting for all the vaccinated to keel over, this time for real? I mean they've installed microchips in everyone, so all they have to do is push a firmware update that kills you or makes you obedient. It's kind of the perfect narrative for un-personing your political opponents. When the Trumpists lose elections they can claim people don't really want to vote for whatever isn't an insane xenophobe. And when inevitably the firmware update doesn't get pushed, it's because of infighting in the cabal or successful action by the Q-network, so there's an excuse to endlessly explain the failure of prophecy. The problem is I think this narrative is too cogent and logical to appeal to them.
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Aug 29, 2021 11:20
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Little do they know we actually put all the microchips in the ivermectin.
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Aug 29, 2021 12:35
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ashpanash posted:Little do they know we actually put all the microchips in the ivermectin. There's going to be some problems when a bunch of horses try to vote.
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Aug 29, 2021 13:15
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We’ve got enough problems with all the asses 
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Aug 29, 2021 13:17
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Idk President Shadowfax sounds like an improvement over most of the offerings of my lifetime e: I have just learned President Shadowfax was assassinated by bees Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Aug 29, 2021 |
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Aug 29, 2021 13:18
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Presumably you would get president dumbass racehorse name because there is no reason to suspect that horses would not also vote for the guy they see most on TV.
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Aug 29, 2021 13:49
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Millard Fillmore, Grover Cleveland, and Calvin Coolidge were the racehorse presidents, nobody names people like that.
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Aug 29, 2021 14:04
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Captain Log posted:I am not pro-American policing and overuse of force. I also think the kid gloves used on the white people invading the God damned capitol vs. the brutality used against BLM protestors is a God damned indictment on our country. Hell, these people were beating police near to death. So much as glancing at them during BLM protests was enough to get you mauled by cops.
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Aug 29, 2021 14:22
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pseudanonymous posted:I mean they've installed microchips in everyone, so all they have to do is push a firmware update that kills you or makes you obedient. It's kind of the perfect narrative for un-personing your political opponents. When the Trumpists lose elections they can claim people don't really want to vote for whatever isn't an insane xenophobe. And when inevitably the firmware update doesn't get pushed, it's because of infighting in the cabal or successful action by the Q-network, so there's an excuse to endlessly explain the failure of prophecy. The problem is I think this narrative is too cogent and logical to appeal to them. I wish I'd bookmarked it, but there was an article from actual engineering and tech guys about the microchip thing. The chips are small, not microscopic, but small. But what kills it all is the poo poo to make them work. An inch long antenna gives you about a foot of range, and then they need some sort of power supply which would have to be impossibly small to the point it always has to be near a charging system to keep powering the chip.
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Aug 29, 2021 14:28
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Are there going to be apocalypse cults waiting for all the vaccinated to keel over, this time for real? United States, 2129. The last person to remember COVID has finally died, surrounded by six generations of her family. *Redpilled neo-incel bursts in,.wearing a red hologram hat* "Told you so!"
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trump and his master 4d plan to make him and his supporters look weak and stupid has almost come to fruition!
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‘It’s not looking in our favor’: Man who organized anti-mask Freedom Rally now on a ventilator after catching COVIDquote:To: blueplum Whereupon we find out LumberJack53213's height, weight, and thus BMI as another freeper taunts them for being obese. quote:To: blueplum quote:To: bagster quote:To: MagnoliaB quote:To: bagster quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:To: bagster quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:To: bagster quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:Comment #60 Removed by Moderator quote:To: bagster quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:To: conservative98 quote:To: LumberJack53213 Here, have a different type of stupid. quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:To: bagster Personally I am adding LumberJack53213 to my "has somewhat reasonable opinions specifically related to vaccinations amongst a sea of Neo-Nazis" list. quote:To: Tennessee Nana quote:To: rlmorel quote:To: gas_dr quote:To: rlmorel quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:To: blueplum quote:To: blueplum quote:To: blueplum  people not dying from the wonders of modern medical science -> taxation -> Socialism -> CommunismI'm sure the polling amongst freepers is still 100% for private health insurance over a public option or universal healthcare... quote:To: joma89 This explains the $200 increase in my monthly stipend from George Soros quote:To: LumberJack53213 quote:To: cyclotic quote:To: MagnoliaB quote:To: blueplum quote:To: trebb
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Does... Does MagnoliaB think that 'JAB' is an acronym? I can't believe that's what stuck out to me.
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quote:Then goes to the hospital where they killed him like they did a family member of mine. Hospitals have turned into killing fields for the COVID $$$$$$$$$$$$. ...what? How are hospitals being incentivized to kill people? I can only think of two things. One, the Deep State bribes hospitals to not give covid patients "life saving drugs" like Ivermectin and Regeneron so that they will die of covid, so they can claim covid is more deadly than it is, or two, the Deep State bribes hospitals to let people die from other things and then lie and say it was covid, so they can claim covid is more deadly than it is. e: Like the Freeper who said that the vaccine is a scam for hospitals to make more money from Medicare reimbursements at least makes sense, if you want to believe that the vaccine is just for Big Pharma to rake in the cash that's a plausible explanation, but killing people for money is ridiculous.
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I think the social aspect of the internet has literally broken America. I graduated university in 2006 from a small liberal arts school. The degree didn't help me ever get a job, or give me specialized knowledge I ever needed in my career. But, I felt like the really loving rigorous standards of logic, research, science, and reasoning where something everyone should learn at some point in their life. I thought the experience of getting my degree was insanely valuable, but shouldn't be gated behind lots of cash and/or crippling debt. I always believed the internet would create an egalitarian society. Everyone would be able to go out and learn to their heart's content while sharpening up their abilities to suss out bullshit. For a couple of years in the late 00's, I thought my prediction was coming true. Sweet Jesus H. Tap-dancing Christ, I could not have been more disastrously incorrect. Hearing these loving people try to slap enough neurons in their head together to form a cogent sentence about logical fallacies is actively making me stupider. And the world worse.
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It does create an egalitarian society in some respects, the difficulty you are having is that you imagined that meant everyone would be like you, rather than meaning that any given person's feelings about a subject are equally as worthy of respect as actual demonstrable facts. Which isn't a problem of the internet, people were always loving stupid, they have had a whole lifetime of traditional media to make them loving stupid, the issue that we are now observing is that stupid people can network and find other stupid people and form power blocs, and either you have to find a way to make them not stupid or you have to find a way to disenfranchise them. People are going out and learning to their heart's content, but their heart does not want complex and difficult ideas, it wants whatever makes them feel like they are right and have always been right.
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OwlFancier posted:he issue that we are now observing is that stupid people can network and find other stupid people and form power blocs This, this, and this.
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Captain Log posted:
My brain's still making little "Krrrzt Krrrzt" comic book broken machine noises at "You're citing the wrong kind of doctor so its an appeal to authority, but only when you make the argument".
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Twelve by Pies posted:...what? How are hospitals being incentivized to kill people? This conservative conspiracy belief is that the federal government pays hospitals for every covid case (so they have an incentive to fudge the numbers and report fake positive results) and for every covid death (so they call every death covid even if it's a motorcycle accident, and if you do have covid they hide the real treatments from you and let you die so they can get that sweet sweet government cash) Why did Trump's federal government do this? Shut up! Deep state! Deep state! Sabotage! Dolschtoss!
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Aug 30, 2021 13:54
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That one single known incident of mislabeling the motorcycle death is the only one that ever comes up too. It's like how there's more GOP voters doing voter fraud because "they do it worse" than there are dead people voting for the Daemon Hillary.
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Twelve by Pies posted:...what? How are hospitals being incentivized to kill people? The conspiracy theory is that COVID is the only packaged health condition that works this way, so hospitals are telling their doctors to tell patients that they have COVID when it's really a fake disease that doesn't kill people, get their 37k check, then kill the patient by injecting them with poison while telling them that it's the treatment. It's extremely dumb and extremely prevalent in the antivax crowd. Alex Jones in particular loves to crow about it. Froghammer fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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Froghammer posted:It's not uncommon for hospitals to get specific payouts directly from health insurers based on routine treatments for certain illnesses and conditions. It makes sense from a business standpoint; if both parties know that the hospital is going to charge around 75k for, I don't know, let's say setting a broken leg bone, then the hospital tells the insurance company "We have someone here with a broken leg bone" and the insurance company says "Cool, we're wiring you 75k right now". Current COVID pricing is around 37k, so if a patient with COVID needs to go to the ICU, the hospital gets 37k from the insurer. I've also seen they only get the money when the patient dies, so they're letting covid patients die by not giving them lifesaving
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Ignoring how hospital payment methods work aside, it's a belief that relies on COVID being both a fake disease that isn't a very big deal and a deadly illness with a simple cure that's being intentionally withheld. Which, hey, that's fascism for you. The enemy needs to be strong and weak at the same time, and the enemy is COVID.
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I can't decide whether my favorite part is where the "A perfectly healthy 40 year old working locally in the medical industry" bit is very, very clearly just stripped from some tabloid website, or where the doctor has the most reasonable reaction in the world to some idiot asking him if the vaccine caused a stroke, and this is proof of a conspiracy to cover up that 50% of the country's population is in the process of dropping dead.
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"I asked my doctor if the vaccine would turn me into a cat and they were confused so clearly small-pox is a hoax."
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May divorce husband over Covid vax beliefsOP posted:My husband of 20 years got the "vax" in order to travel for work. He was not resistant to the jab. In fact, he gladly took it. He has repeatedly told me I'm foolish for not getting the shot. I am heathly and hale and have weighed my options. I will not take it ... ever. quote:To: Scarpetta The horror! quote:To: God luvs America  quote:To: ecomcon quote:To: ecomcon quote:To: ecomcon Well we did waste a shitload of innocent lives, money, and time we could have better spent mobilizing for an existential fight to mitigate the worst effects of man-made climate change for no absolutely no gain whatsoever... quote:To: Bell Bouy II quote:To: Scarpetta  is a bit too far for some freepersquote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: ThisLittleLightofMine quote:To: Bell Bouy II God will fix it! quote:To: ThisLittleLightofMine; Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Craftmore quote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Republican Wildcat; Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta  WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THE OFFICE BECAUSE YOU WON'T GET VACCINATEDquote:To: Scarpetta quote:To: Scarpetta Get off that cross, goddamn quote:To: All humblegunner takes a steamer in the thread and brings down the wrath of the mods quote:Comment #14 Removed by Moderator quote:To: humblegunner quote:To: maggief quote:To: caww quote:To: Scarpetta
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quote:To: Craftmore This made me giggle, I'll admit.
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I like how the divorce anti-vax Freeper thinks her husband is trying to censor her because he’s vaccinated and thus evil now and not because he doesn’t want her to seem like a raging lunatic to their son
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What the Christ brings down the mods on Freep? Also,  "My husband told me not to mention something I AM BEING CENSORED AND WE ARE THE ETERNAL VICTIMS OF EVERYTHING!!!"
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Captain Log posted:I think the social aspect of the internet has literally broken America. Back in 2001 I was one of the crew that launched Indymedia in australia and we where spiral eyed convinced a free non-moderated platform for self publishing would finally set people free to challenge capitalism and media hegemony by letting the truth run free. So sure of it we where , the original perth site would let you edit other peoples posts (for "fact checking"). Holy poo poo was I wrong. Within 6 months the neo-nazis found it and started death threating everyone, then the conspiracy theorists turned up, and they where *worse*, because when you slapped their posts down they'd start doxxing people and one guy even came to an editors house to fight him. Yeah, I've gone from "Internet will save the world" to "The internet is going to kill us all". Frankly I wouldnt lose too much sleep if the whole loving thing was shut down somehow)
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There's no way they aren't jabbing every recruit the minute they get to their basic training station. Like they do with a million other vaccines already. RIP freepson.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:There's no way they aren't jabbing every recruit the minute they get to their basic training station. Like they do with a million other vaccines already. RIP freepson. Prior to last week, it wasn't mandatory so privates were told that their families could not attend their graduation unless they got it. Now, you are correct. It'll be e'erybody.
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The people who view marriage as super sacred and actively oppose divorce for any reason are so hosed up and I hate them so much. And yeah that OP's son already knows that his mom is an insane weirdo and probably one of the reasons he joined the military was to get away from her lol
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Elephant Ambush posted:The people who view marriage as super sacred and actively oppose divorce for any reason are so hosed up and I hate them so much. I've got to admit I laughed (and then sighed) at how Freep has a break down over this - She doesn't want the vaccine and is angry other people disagree about it being dangerous, that's good! But she's a woman with opinions that wants to divorce her husband, that's bad! And you can see the dividing line of which one posters think is more important. Bremen fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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