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spaceblancmange posted:Was there one before this or was the chat about it just in other threads up until that point? I'm sure I read about it here in December the old one closed down because it got too many posts and was slowing down the forums. the one before that one was the original.
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spaceblancmange posted:Was there one before this or was the chat about it just in other threads up until that point? I'm sure I read about it here in December i believe it was mostly being talked about in other threads
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Shiroc posted:Blue Maga has controlled the narrative because any adults who die were just chuds and kids or vaxed people who die or get long covid are simply unfortunate statistical outliers that you can't change your behavior for. Zero covid was not possible. China, Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand don't exist. About Australia...
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i've got some classic feigl-ding's to share https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220843228964016130?s=20 I still wish we did that
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spaceblancmange posted:Was there one before this or was the chat about it just in other threads up until that point? I'm sure I read about it here in December how very right, and how very wrong this goon was, from dec 18, 2019, the doomsday econ thread: Tashilicious posted:So I know people keep going on about how they're going to keep the economy going until the election, but I am convinced that it's not going to work. It's a teetering castle of cards and poo poo is going to hit the fan. The harder they push it off, the worse it will hit. All it takes is for the African Swine Flu to get somewhere not-china. Or for something else to happen. For a big terrorism scare. For another SARS but this time in NewYork. Something unplanned and unforseen and just poof, gently caress us all.
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Judakel posted:the old one closed down because it got too many posts and was slowing down the forums. the one before that one was the original. there have been 5 total covid threads including this one. there was the original in January 2020, then they went monthly after The Great Panic and there was a new one in April, then another in May, but then the June one lasted until just recently when this thread (the fifth) was started.
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Covid over why are we posting about Covid
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COVID? I barely know her! 
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https://twitter.com/ferrisjabr/status/1220963553911271424?s=20 https://twitter.com/ferrisjabr/status/1220969972215631872?s=20 https://twitter.com/ferrisjabr/status/1221147251386380288?s=20 lol Eric was right even if the specifics were wrong
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Stereotype posted:there have been 5 total covid threads including this one. there was the original in January 2020, then they went monthly after The Great Panic and there was a new one in April, then another in May, but then the June one lasted until just recently when this thread (the fifth) was started. they just bled together in my mind
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Judakel posted:if you're posting in this thread, you're in on the ground floor, because covid will destroy the world that tries to live with it and this process will take decades:) oh sweet, the ground floor!!
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fosborb posted:check this poo poo out: 
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/ferrisjabr/status/1220963553911271424?s=20 lmao literally just a science writer
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RC Cola posted:Covid over why are we posting about Covid 
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i love this guy. https://twitter.com/ferrisjabr/status/1224779636170604544?s=20 early 2020 was such a different time. except the media is saying the same stuff now so idk, maybe it was the same
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Yeah it's over its fine brunch
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eric crackl-ping found people who had estimated a October/November 2019 start to the disease back in January 2020 https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1221141364647264256
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fosborb posted:wherein zeynep discovers that yes, the outbreak that hit loving CNN breaking news on Dec 31st was in fact known by actual, serious scientists around the world a bit ahead of that I tried to dig into this, and there appears to be some merit to her surprise. gradenko_2000 posted:I went back to the very first COVID-19 thread and we started in January 23, 2020, after Wuhan had already gone into lockdown. I couldn't find anything earlier than December 30, 2019 as a public report acknowledging the COVID outbreak, and Tufekci specifically addresses that she's familiar with this ProMED email that Daszak was posting about on the 30th, but that's the 30th - not the 15th. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1432872308822233089 Having said that, it's likely that Lipkin is merely getting his dates wrong. There's a difference between "we know now that the virus started spreading earlier than when we thought it did" and "what was the earliest date that people knew about it, at the time"
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so i guess jeffery epstein had a 90 day timer on his dead-man's switch that released covid
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the surface thing turned out to be wrong but lol
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This has been posted before but this feels like the opposite of a crack ping, I kinda feel like my entire brain structure has collapsed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU Dr. John has been a primary source for me this entire pandemic. I believe I found him from CSPAM COVID thread one. I tend to believe he has a good idea what the medical consensus is and a pretty good idea of where we're heading. So we've just given up? If the current situation in hospitals and schools is us giving a poo poo about this virus, what the gently caress is giving up going to do? They're going to stop doing free public testing. The number doesn't matter anymore because everyone is going to get it. Everyone. The number of cases will eventually just be the number of people. This is the bleakest this has seemed to me since it began. Herd Immunity is impossible, it is never coming. This virus is just going to mutate and re-spread through the entire population over and over again until what? Is public health really completely incompatible with our culture, economy, and government? COVID just wins because we're all so loving stupid? After all the goddamn insane poo poo humanity has managed to survive, this is the thing that's going to actually turn us into a scene from Children of Men.
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https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1432893092110249984 you can just put it in a smoothie or coffee if you're worried about flavor, smh
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Covok posted:About Australia... Failing now but did a really good job there for a while.
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Yeah so what exactly is the "psychological harm" bullshit regarding masks and preventative, pro-social behavior that seems to have really taken off recently? Like, is the argument that it is psychologically harmful to be concerned about at risk individuals and the on-going death toll of COVID? Or that the masks, themselves, cause some kind of psychological harm because mouths are magic? Did I just accidentally summarize it or is there more to this line of nonsense?
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Masks means a bad thing is happening. No masks means no bad things because unless the deaths impact you, they aren't real. Don't listen to the news man because its just depressing and you have to live your life.
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lol at this poo poo idiot country. open up and let everyone die. third impact this bitch
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Fasdar posted:Yeah so what exactly is the "psychological harm" bullshit regarding masks and preventative, pro-social behavior that seems to have really taken off recently? Like, is the argument that it is psychologically harmful to be concerned about at risk individuals and the on-going death toll of COVID? Or that the masks, themselves, cause some kind of psychological harm because mouths are magic? This is the policy Capitalist countries are following: The Great Barrington Declaration quote:The Great Barrington Declaration was sponsored by the American Institute for Economic Research, a libertarian free market think tank associated with climate change denial. quote:The declaration says that lockdowns have adverse effects on physical and mental health, for example, because people postpone preventive healthcare. They propose reducing these harms by ending mandatory restrictions on most activities for most people. Without these restrictions, more people will develop COVID-19. They believe that these infections will produce herd immunity (the idea that when enough people become immune, then the virus will stop circulating widely), which will eventually make it less likely that high-risk people will be exposed to the virus. McNugget Buddy fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Lmao I think I figured out why New Zealand is so keen on sticking to the elimination approach:quote:Auckland's hospitals are asking other DHBs to send intensive care nurses to bolster numbers, with dozens in hospital. Our current outbreak has a total of 682 cases across the whole country, we have 8 people in ICU and we're reaching the comfortable capacity of our intensive care facilities and staff in our largest city...
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Fasdar posted:Yeah so what exactly is the "psychological harm" bullshit regarding masks and preventative, pro-social behavior that seems to have really taken off recently? Like, is the argument that it is psychologically harmful to be concerned about at risk individuals and the on-going death toll of COVID? Or that the masks, themselves, cause some kind of psychological harm because mouths are magic? People a scared and don't like being "not in control".
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Shiroc posted:Masks means a bad thing is happening. No masks means no bad things because unless the deaths impact you, they aren't real. Don't listen to the news man because its just depressing and you have to live your life. Ah, so with this and the general "our capitalist society is actually good for mental health despite all evidence to the contrary" argument, it is basically saying that it is uncomfortable to confront the reality in which we live in a visceral way, and therefore harmful to the denial with which our society is perpetuated. Lovely, thanks for clarifying.
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Shifty Nipples posted:People a scared and don't like being "not in control". i love this because their actions are so counterproductive. i can exercise control by implementing NPIs in my life, and then i don't need to be scared. imagine how scary an uncontrolled pandemic is going to be because thats what we chose instead.
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Delta-Wye posted:i love this because their actions are so counterproductive. i can exercise control by implementing NPIs in my life, and then i don't need to be scared. yeah going around doing errands in my respirator is loving cool because I'm invincible
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mastershakeman posted:What the gently caress, why the sudden change? Just that numbers weren't dropping and syndey kicked off a prisoners dilemma? Last time we did a strict lockdown the numbers plummeted after like 3 weeks. This time they nearly doubled in a day. Delta is different. Here's the chart before today's 120.  There's hardcore lockdown fatigue at this point and compliance is clearly wavering, especially in ESL areas where they don't get the messaging. The economy here is hosed too, so many abandoned stores with retail shut for so long. My local commercial street used to be the most vibrant in the country, similar rep to something like 5th Ave in NY (with a bit of times square mixed in) and now it's nothing but empty storefronts. I don't agree with giving up but I can understand why they're feeling defeated. Especially with Sydney waving the white towel.
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the ruling class in the US can find willing collaborators, but they are the ones that made the decision to ignore the disease completely once Biden was in office. The few months of a social safety net to fight the pandemic saw the largest protest movement in recent memory, so they're not trying that strategy again. The US making that decision makes it hard for Europe and the Americas to try a different policy, even if they wanted too. Most of Africa and Asia has even less capacity to go for zero COVID. So China and New Zealand stand along against the rest of the world.
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gradenko_2000 posted:yeah going around doing errands in my respirator is loving cool because I'm invincible people give you a really nice sized personal bubble when you're wearing one, an added bonus
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Spoondick posted:saw a maskless woman in costco pick her nose, eat the booger while sucking on her fingers for a good 5 seconds, then pick up several products to look at them before putting them back on the shelf ssorry about that
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