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Barry Soteriology
Mar 1, 2020

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

who then turned into a "covid made me stronger" antimasker

Didn't he go on a covid bear cruise too?

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Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017




legit lold

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006





Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

:perfect:

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003


one of my favorite ambient tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU6TcFcmonE

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

mod sassinator posted:

it probably helps too that israel is a much smaller country than the us and in a matter of weeks can get things in the arms of 10, 20, 30% etc or more of their population


Israel also acquired so many Pfizer doses early on mainly by realizing that pharma companies are greedy bastards and Israeli offered like 23 -24 USD per dose.

The data they've been provided has been much more reactive and detailed than info from the CDC for topics like booster shots.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/VincentRK/status/1432690732830269441

Seems like putting 12% of your population be unable to work would be a problem
lmao this is the best case scenario lmaooooo

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Topo Chico Debarge posted:

Didn't he go on a covid bear cruise too?

something like that, yeah

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Zokari posted:

someone should bring up the millions of people who tried for natural immunity and, you know, died

Claiming you don't need to be vaccinated because you already had COVID is stupid because you still improve your protection with a vaccine post infection. But at least it makes sense as a position. The idea that if you haven't been infected you should prefer an infection over a vaccine is just mind boggling stupid

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

If anyone remembers me whining about this guy in Colorado Springs district 49:

quote:

Saying the risks of quarantine outweigh the risk of disease, a Colorado school district insists it won’t report COVID cases to local public health authorities, even though state officials say the law requires it.

“It is our judgement, backed by months of student and community observation and interaction, with corresponding experiential data, that the risks of quarantine far outweigh the risks of the disease,” District 49 CEO Peter Hilts wrote in a communication to families Thursday. “That is why we will not facilitate voluntary reporting and contact tracing that are designed to direct healthy individuals into quarantine and isolation.”

“Our experience last year was that quarantines were almost a reflexive response to any report [of COVID], verified or second hand, suspected or confirmed,” Hilts told Chalkbeat. “We sent thousands of students into quarantine who never got sick and in some cases they missed weeks of instruction.”

Quick update:

quote:

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (KKTV) - A high school in Colorado Springs is transitioning to remote learning.

D-49 made the announcement for Vista Ridge on Tuesday. Vista Ridge is located on the northeast side of Colorado Springs just east of Powers Boulevard and north of Dublin Boulevard.

A letter went out to parents stating the school would be closed from Aug. 31 through Sept. 6. The school plans to return to in-person learning on Sept. 7.

Click here for other announcements and updates from Vista Ridge.

The following message was sent to 11 News by D-49:

“This week, El Paso County Public Health declared an outbreak at Vista Ridge High School due to a cluster of presumed cases of COVID-19 identified in the Vista Ridge community. Tuesday, VRHS learned about multiple additional cases of infectious illness within the school.

In collaboration with El Paso County Public Health, VRHS announced a temporary suspension of in-person instruction and in-person activities through Monday, September 6 to mitigate the spread of illness and provide time for additional cleaning within the building.

Friday, September 3 has already been scheduled as a non-student contact day.

VRHS will facilitate e-learning activities to continue learning during this temporary suspension. Parents and students are also encouraged to self-monitor for symptoms.”
''

:shrug:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Thoguh posted:

Claiming you don't need to be vaccinated because you already had COVID is stupid because you still improve your protection with a vaccine post infection. But at least it makes sense as a position. The idea that if you haven't been infected you should prefer an infection over a vaccine is just mind boggling stupid

Not mention things like South African variant show what did happen in the real world while vaccine induced immunity provides broad band protection.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

nexous posted:

based on the 2 fda officials "resigning" i wouldnt rush out and vaxx your kids just yet. something's up
sinovac when
save me daddy Xi

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/VincentRK/status/1432690732830269441

Seems like putting 12% of your population be unable to work would be a problem

12% of hospitalizations

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Tzen posted:

sinovac when
save me daddy Xi

Supposedly they quit from rumor since they got mad over the Sleepy WH pushing ahead with the booster shot program.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

beyond it just being a pants-on-head sort of point generally, there are plenty of pics of folks wearing masks or gasmasks in the london tube while sheltering from bombing raids lol

dont trust harvard scientists

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Chamale posted:

One injured, none dead. If they close the school for a few days because of this, that school shooter actually saved lives

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
lmfao the media is saying the biden plan is exactly the same as the trump plan to pressure the FDA into acquiescence, instead of doing something like locking down and limiting transmission

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/31/biden-booster-plan-fda-508149

quote:

The Biden administration’s decisions over when to administer coronavirus vaccine boosters are triggering turmoil within the Food and Drug Administration, frustrating regulators and sparking fear that political pressures will once again override the agency’s expertise.

FDA officials are scrambling to collect and analyze data that clearly demonstrate the boosters' benefits before the administration’s Sept. 20 deadline for rolling them out to most adults. Many outside experts, and some within the agency, see uncomfortable similarities between the Biden team's top-down booster plan and former President Donald Trump's attempts to goad FDA into accelerating its initial authorization process for Covid-19 vaccines and push through unproven virus treatments.

On Tuesday, two top FDA vaccine regulators resigned — a decision that one former official said was rooted in anger over the agency’s lack of autonomy in the booster planning so far. A current health official said the pair, Marion Gruber and Philip Krause, left over differences with FDA’s top vaccine official Peter Marks. Now the agency is facing a potential mutiny among its staff and outside vaccine advisers, several of whom feel cut out of key decisions and who view the plan to offer boosters to all adults as premature and unnecessary.

POLITICO spoke to 11 current and former health officials and people familiar with the matter who described growing exasperation with the administration's disjointed process for implementing its booster plan. Those sources said there is little coordination between federal health agencies, even as two top FDA officials try to guide the rollout.

biden has single handedly in a matter of about 6 months destroyed both the credibility of the CDC and the functioning of the FDA

congrat-u-loving-lations mr. president, it's a new record!! even trump couldn't destroy government institutions this quickly

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Pryor on Fire posted:

If anyone remembers me whining about this guy in Colorado Springs district 49:

Quick update:

''

:shrug:

lmfao school district ceo

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Got my respirator in the mail today. Chuffed as hell that I'm not going to die from direct exposure to the coronavirus. :unsmith:

Also got my respirator crew shirt it's loving sick as hell :getin:

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Pryor on Fire posted:

https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1433127055047241732

The dearth of leadership or any real response to covid has led to everyone just choosing their own adventure around the virus based on their own personal pet peeves.
Dude sounds like a handful https://twitter.com/roeiwrites/status/1433139446895939586

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

mod sassinator posted:

lmfao the media is saying the biden plan is exactly the same as the trump plan to pressure the FDA into acquiescence, instead of doing something like locking down and limiting transmission

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/31/biden-booster-plan-fda-508149

biden has single handedly in a matter of about 6 months destroyed both the credibility of the CDC and the functioning of the FDA

congrat-u-loving-lations mr. president, it's a new record!! even trump couldn't destroy government institutions this quickly

trump annihilated the credibility of the cdc but biden hasnt been able to rehabilitate it at all

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


lmao

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Ammanas posted:

trump annihilated the credibility of the cdc but biden hasnt been able to rehabilitate it at all

the may masks off by the CDC did far more damage to the american people (literally kicked off the delta surge we are in now) and the credibility of the CDC in my mind. their moronic insistence that vaccines were 100% perfect and all we needed to stop the pandemic was braindead denial that everyone in this thread has been bitching about and foretelling since the start of the pandemic

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
I wonder what's in the pediatric trial results that would cause the top FDA officials to suddenly resign.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

What did you mean, the campaign to call the vaccines a "Fauci ouchie" was a great success, and focused groups loved it!!!

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Nothus posted:

I wonder what's in the pediatric trial results that would cause the top FDA officials to suddenly resign.

well rumor mill it was mainly due to getting upset over getting "bulldozed" by the WH Biden admin over the booster shot approval.

Barry Soteriology
Mar 1, 2020

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Nothus posted:

I wonder what's in the pediatric trial results that would cause the top FDA officials to suddenly resign.

it sounds like it's more that the WH is telling them in no uncertain terms they need to be approved now and the FDA is saying sorry that isn't the process, close down schools and wait for the process to finish.

Rubby
Aug 31, 2002

<3 Louby
https://twitter.com/Gothamist/status/1433120725829931016?s=20

oh word?

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah when articles talk about adopting a "harm reduction strategy" towards the pandemic they're obviously interested in reducing harm to the economy, not people. If there's an active pileup then they'd just send in more trains cars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hyttagGsz0

If you send in enough cars the sheer car pressure will forced the accident to break up and clear and everything will be ok

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




mod sassinator posted:

the may masks off by the CDC did far more damage to the american people (literally kicked off the delta surge we are in now) and the credibility of the CDC in my mind. their moronic insistence that vaccines were 100% perfect and all we needed to stop the pandemic was braindead denial that everyone in this thread has been bitching about and foretelling since the start of the pandemic

Yeah that was when the dam broke. Everyone at worked immediately ripped off their masks when that announcement went out lol

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

mod sassinator posted:

lmfao the media is saying the biden plan is exactly the same as the trump plan to pressure the FDA into acquiescence, instead of doing something like locking down and limiting transmission

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/31/biden-booster-plan-fda-508149

biden has single handedly in a matter of about 6 months destroyed both the credibility of the CDC and the functioning of the FDA

congrat-u-loving-lations mr. president, it's a new record!! even trump couldn't destroy government institutions this quickly

lol jesus i didnt expect this to get into the mainstream before the boosters even dropped

we just switched the maga hat color thats it

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry
https://twitter.com/ItsPhetz/status/1432815804328804357?s=20

Bleach, HCQ, no masks no zoom
not me just free the horse paste applicator while I
post a picture of the dosage, but suddenly I'm blind from it
please don't put I died from it anyhow

What we all know is that vaccines are pre-approval
Ivermectin keeps my skin and my complexion youthful
All my friends lose their sense of smell and of taste
Hubby got a fever. Pocket full of paste.


Hubby's got a fever, pocket full of paste

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

empty whippet box posted:

If you send in enough cars the sheer car pressure will forced the accident to break up and clear and everything will be ok

lol it's how electrical short circuits are sometimes fixed. you blast it with enough current to melt the short and fix everything.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Ammanas posted:

trump annihilated the credibility of the cdc but biden hasnt been able to rehabilitate it at all

my sister is a veterinary pathologist specializing in endemic animal diseases that could possibly jump species. she says the CDC has been heading down this road for a long time, decades even, in terms of allowing politics to drive their decision-making. it got substantially worse under Trump but the edifice was already very weak.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Gunshow Poophole posted:

https://twitter.com/ItsPhetz/status/1432815804328804357?s=20

Bleach, HCQ, no masks no zoom
not me just free the horse paste applicator while I
post a picture of the dosage, but suddenly I'm blind from it
please don't put I died from it anyhow

What we all know is that vaccines are pre-approval
Ivermectin keeps my skin and my complexion youthful
All my friends lose their sense of smell and of taste
Hubby got a fever. Pocket full of paste.


Hubby's got a fever, pocket full of paste

thank you, this made my day :allears:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

mod sassinator posted:

the may masks off by the CDC did far more damage to the american people (literally kicked off the delta surge we are in now) and the credibility of the CDC in my mind. their moronic insistence that vaccines were 100% perfect and all we needed to stop the pandemic was braindead denial that everyone in this thread has been bitching about and foretelling since the start of the pandemic

i just had a doctor's appointment today and the entire staff was mask free and the assistant told me "oh you can take your mask off if you're vaccinated!"

that singular announcement totally hosed any chance we had at keeping people masked up

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sunny Side Up posted:

DELTA WAVE SHOWS SIGNS OF POTENTIAL CRESTING

-headline from weekly consulting report at my company about covid

Subheads:

New cases & hospitalizations are showing signs of a possible peak
Daily hospital admissions growth has decelerated significantly
Stalling in activity due to Delta...travel areas showing modest slippage

Well since we aren't doing anything stupid like open schools fully or have music festivals or biker festivals or stuff like that literally every single day all over the country it stands to reason that the wave will subside on its own.

Jon Irenicus
Apr 23, 2008


YO ASSHOLE

as a high school teacher I can see some of the classroom policies working for mitigating Delta but folks, I got some bad news about eating lunch and sports practices this year

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mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Jon Irenicus posted:

as a high school teacher I can see some of the classroom policies working for mitigating Delta but folks, I got some bad news about eating lunch and sports practices this year

lol remember how I got disciplined for writing that Sternly Worded Letter to school admin?

they got me good, the fuckers. I'm now on lunch duty in the fieldhouse, 100 unmasked teenagers masticating and spewing Delta hither and yon.

about to order my p100 and join the crew

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