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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

World War Mammories posted:

it just makes sense. someone who only uses crack occasionally has excellent self-control

And can probably get me crack without making a big thing out of it

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The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Please describe your crack ping usage:

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



The Oldest Man posted:

Please describe your crack ping usage:

a problem

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Facebook Aunt posted:

You landlord will get mad if those payments are coming after the due date. These guys will pay your rent on the 1st and then you have the whole month to pay them back. Of course once you do that you'll never be able to quit the service because that would mean during a single month you would need to make enough money to pay back the loan and pay your next month's rent -- effectively enough money to pay your rent twice in a single month. It's a trap.

Yeah to be clear this whole thing is basically a loan for rent money dressed up as some kind of convenience feature.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Facebook Aunt posted:

You landlord will get mad if those payments are coming after the due date. These guys will pay your rent on the 1st and then you have the whole month to pay them back. Of course once you do that you'll never be able to quit the service because that would mean during a single month you would need to make enough money to pay back the loan and pay your next month's rent -- effectively enough money to pay your rent twice in a single month. It's a trap.

Oh it's just a payday loan or a cash advance. For some reason I was thinkng it was paying someone else to pay my rent for me not advancing the due date a month.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Just read a few articles about personality testing/employee screening and holy cow, it's absolutely a way to either fire you immediately (or put you at the top of the list to get rid of) or never promote you.

As business marketing professor and consultant Neil Kokemuller has written, “Disgruntled workers … potentially persuade others that the company is unfair or not a good place to work. Screening tools help companies avoid hiring employees that could become negative influences on the workplace.” One advertisement for a pre-hire test aimed at nurses and other professional employees promised it could weed out “undesirable behaviors” such as “focus on pay, benefits, and status,” in favor of “desirable behaviors,” such as “focus on enjoyment of the job.”

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I've never met anyone, sucker or not, who actually enjoyed their job

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've never met anyone, sucker or not, who actually enjoyed their job

America is whack like that, I enjoy my job, and most people I know do too, at least to some extent. But this is Denmark, where the work culture is a lot different.

It's not all good, there are things about my job I don't like, but that's also how I feel about my family and I guess my hobbies to the extent I have time for them.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
I wouldn’t say I “enjoy” my job the way I enjoy playing Xbox or eating a good slice of pizza

But I certainly tolerate it more then most any other job I would reasonably be qualified for, and occasionally I get to work on interesting projects and I appreciate the outcome of them.

That is probably the best case scenario in America.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

bawfuls posted:

"Everybody has the right to a decent job"
vs
"Many unemployed are unemployable"


followed by

"I like companies where there is an established structure"
vs
"I don't like the idea of hierarchies in companies"

Most of the questions are more about personal work habits and motivation but there are too many of these raising red flags.

edit:

This is ostensibly the purpose. I'm just suspicious that a secondary purpose is identifying "potential troublemakers" or something. I mean that one Q is literally "do you think workplace democracy is good?"

What? Those questions have nothing to do with putting people on teams for some kind of game. That's blatantly trying to put people on lists to be gotten rid of as soon as possible or never promoted.


I very much enjoy my job as an elementary school teacher. However, the only reason I can do it is because I already have a retirement from my first job and got to go to college for free too.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I enjoy my job, but mostly because I work nights and therefore what problems that come in can be easily and quickly fobbed off on the better paid day shift assholes. I might do one or two hours of real work for each 10 hour shift.

Minimum wage = minimum work

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've never met anyone, sucker or not, who actually enjoyed their job
I used to work for the federal government and at least half the people there genuinely enjoyed their job and cared about the numbers they produced

...so obviously the entire bureau is moving an hour away in 2022 to save on the rent that it pays another government organization and people are all gonna fuckin quit

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've never met anyone, sucker or not, who actually enjoyed their job

Senior salesmen. If you love taking people's money you love being paid to do it drunk.

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Ironically I do mostly enjoy this job. It's stimulating work, the people I work with are competent and agreeable, they've been pretty good about covid protocols and working from home, the pay is acceptable, etc. It is an "ideal" computer-toucher job in a booming industry which allows me to :justpost: much of the day.

bawfuls has issued a correction as of 17:33 on Sep 1, 2021

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

BonHair posted:

America is whack like that, I enjoy my job, and most people I know do too, at least to some extent. But this is Denmark, where the work culture is a lot different.

It's not all good, there are things about my job I don't like, but that's also how I feel about my family and I guess my hobbies to the extent I have time for them.

my job I just quit is full of racists classist pieces of poo poo and I'm glad I don't have to see any of them anymore.

okay maybe that one guy who always wore MegaMan shirts was okay but he also had a Mandalorian tattoo so it's a toss up.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

spacetoaster posted:

Just read a few articles about personality testing/employee screening and holy cow, it's absolutely a way to either fire you immediately (or put you at the top of the list to get rid of) or never promote you.

As business marketing professor and consultant Neil Kokemuller has written, “Disgruntled workers … potentially persuade others that the company is unfair or not a good place to work. Screening tools help companies avoid hiring employees that could become negative influences on the workplace.” One advertisement for a pre-hire test aimed at nurses and other professional employees promised it could weed out “undesirable behaviors” such as “focus on pay, benefits, and status,” in favor of “desirable behaviors,” such as “focus on enjoyment of the job.”

It's a blanket way to justify firing anyone and having a bullshit paper trial to point to in case they're black or pregnant or whatever.

also lol promotions.

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

If they're about to go on a firing spree that would be a real galaxy brain move. Last year was the most profitable year in company history and they are constantly under-staffed because the industry is so strong people are jumping ship for more pay elsewhere.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
I just started a government job in public health IT this year (non-clinical), and it is about as secure a job as you can get in our current hellscape, pays well, and has great benefits. I don't know if it'll be my last job (based on the retirement benefits, I'm hoping to retire at 55, in 2038ish), but barring something going wrong, I think it'll be my last employer.

I really like my team, and while the agency isn't perfectly altruistic, it's definitely work I feel good about doing.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

bawfuls posted:

If they're about to go on a firing spree that would be a real galaxy brain move. Last year was the most profitable year in company history and they are constantly under-staffed because the industry is so strong people are jumping ship for more pay elsewhere.

It was a record year! And since the expectation is for another record year, we'll have to make some cutbacks, and not in my bonus.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Thanatosian posted:

I just started a government job in public health IT this year (non-clinical), and it is about as secure a job as you can get in our current hellscape, pays well, and has great benefits. I don't know if it'll be my last job (based on the retirement benefits, I'm hoping to retire at 55, in 2038ish), but barring something going wrong, I think it'll be my last employer.

I really like my team, and while the agency isn't perfectly altruistic, it's definitely work I feel good about doing.

Is there any way to inherit your job when you leave it? Just put "internet rear end in a top hat" in your will they'll know it's me

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

I work in education, so at least it's rewarding. Work-life balance is good too. Still would rather Not Work but that's not option so :shrug:

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
work fuckin sucks and anyone who says otherwise is overpaid.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

poo poo POST MALONE posted:

work fuckin sucks and anyone who says otherwise is overpaid.

"Work Sucks/I Know" - noted leftist anthropologist Tom De Longe (or maybe that was David Graeber)

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

poo poo POST MALONE posted:

work fuckin sucks and anyone who says otherwise is overpaid.

No work loving sucks too. And not just financially, but also because of lack of casual social relations with coworkers and (for some of us) the lack of contributing to anything larger than oneself. Much of this can be alleviated with hobbies I guess, but what are hobbies but unpaid jobs?

Of course, under automated luxury gay space communism, no one will have real jobs and it will all be fun and games (and nerds doing research).

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Thanatosian posted:

I just started a government job in public health IT this year (non-clinical), and it is about as secure a job as you can get in our current hellscape, pays well, and has great benefits. I don't know if it'll be my last job (based on the retirement benefits, I'm hoping to retire at 55, in 2038ish), but barring something going wrong, I think it'll be my last employer.

I really like my team, and while the agency isn't perfectly altruistic, it's definitely work I feel good about doing.

I work at a hospital and while I spend a lot of time bitching, it could definitely be a lot worse. They also let computer janitors like me join a union.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I've enjoyed a number of jobs

given the reality that I have to work at all in order to live



Like, I wouldn't have done those things for free on my day off or paid to do them, but I don't think that's a reasonable standard to say you enjoy something like a job

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


I'm too disabled to work. I was talking to my husband about how much I missed my job, missed being competent, missed being a star. When I found out my former profession (technical writing) existed, I was ecstatic, and thought "This job was invented for me." It was.

No, I can't volunteer. I have tried volunteering twice, and it didn't work. I cannot keep project deadlines, even voluntary ones.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

skooma512 posted:

I work at a hospital and while I spend a lot of time bitching, it could definitely be a lot worse. They also let computer janitors like me join a union.

A lot of our computer touchers are unionized here, too, but I'm better compensated than them so I don't mind not being in a union so much.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

BonHair posted:

No work loving sucks too. And not just financially, but also because of lack of casual social relations with coworkers and (for some of us) the lack of contributing to anything larger than oneself. Much of this can be alleviated with hobbies I guess, but what are hobbies but unpaid jobs?

Of course, under automated luxury gay space communism, no one will have real jobs and it will all be fun and games (and nerds doing research).

being unemployed on Bernie bucks kicked rear end actually.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Thanatosian posted:

A lot of our computer touchers are unionized here, too, but I'm better compensated than them so I don't mind not being in a union so much.

lmao lol

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Thanatosian posted:

A lot of our computer touchers are unionized here, too, but I'm better compensated than them so I don't mind not being in a union so much.
can't wait for the update a year from now when you lose benefits/get laid off/some other poo poo-eating and wish you had union protection

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
If I had a choice, I would 100% rather make a bit less and be union. Unfortunately, I don't, so I just accept that as a downside of my particular role. :shrug:

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Thanatosian posted:

If I had a choice, I would 100% rather make a bit less and be union. Unfortunately, I don't, so I just accept that as a downside of my particular role. :shrug:

you can start one

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

In Training posted:

you can start one

I got a genuine no poo poo credible death threat for trying that once!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Thanatosian posted:

A lot of our neighbours have property insurance here, too, but I'm paying less per month than them so I don't mind not being insured so much.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

In Training posted:

you can start one

Given that his other coworkers have a union, I assume Than has some level of management responsibilities and therefore doesn't get what feeble job protections unions still have and wouldn't be supported by most unions. Labor Aristocrats get beheaded a lot more. :P

He's a bougie dork, but for other reasons.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Thanatosian posted:

A lot of our computer touchers are unionized here, too, but I'm better compensated than them so I don't mind not being in a union so much.

sounds like we got ourselves a manager here boys :toughguy:

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Shame Boy posted:

Crosspostin' some Yikes from the 'pos

just put your rent money in a box each day and then at the end of the month you pay rent with no fee :confused:

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

spacetoaster posted:

Just read a few articles about personality testing/employee screening and holy cow, it's absolutely a way to either fire you immediately (or put you at the top of the list to get rid of) or never promote you.

As business marketing professor and consultant Neil Kokemuller has written, “Disgruntled workers … potentially persuade others that the company is unfair or not a good place to work. Screening tools help companies avoid hiring employees that could become negative influences on the workplace.” One advertisement for a pre-hire test aimed at nurses and other professional employees promised it could weed out “undesirable behaviors” such as “focus on pay, benefits, and status,” in favor of “desirable behaviors,” such as “focus on enjoyment of the job.”

oh. great. more meyers-briggs bullshit

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Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

tokin opposition posted:

Given that his other coworkers have a union, I assume Than has some level of management responsibilities and therefore doesn't get what feeble job protections unions still have and wouldn't be supported by most unions. Labor Aristocrats get beheaded a lot more. :P

He's a bougie dork, but for other reasons.

I am not in fact a manager, but am in fact a bougie dork.

I am also a government employee in a relatively progressive state, so I have a lot more employment protections than most people (especially most non-union people).

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