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infernal machines posted:if you want to do this powershell exists and can configure everything that has ever been exposed in any of the windows settings panels and more
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infernal machines posted:if you want to do this powershell exists and can configure everything that has ever been exposed in any of the windows settings panels and more powershell is "good" in that what you said is true and straightforward once you have the commands, powershell is "bad" in that every time I try to do something with powershell I end up searching and get instructed to paste this 2048 character long command that descended from the heavens above Ideally I'm pitching you an easy homerun here, because my interactions with powershell are few and far between due to using linux for work stuff and windows mostly for non-work stuff. Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 17:28
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mystes posted:OK, I'll bite. How do you make chrome the default browser from powershell? set group policies accordingly. i have no idea which, but you absolutely can poke them from powershell, with a cmdlet that exists for that purpose. Khorne posted:powershell is "bad" in that every time I try to do something with powershell I end up searching and get instructed to paste this 2048 character long command that descended from the heavens above go echo some random numbers into /proc about it 
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Sep 1, 2021 17:32
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:go echo some random numbers into /proc about it ok.
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Sep 1, 2021 17:37
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the new task bar smells this was a good post but honestly sounds like it could just be shortened to this seriously lol @ the drag and drop fuckup
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Sep 1, 2021 17:38
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r u ready to WALK posted:I hate how windows pops up a dialog box yelling at you for trying to do the sensible thing by dropping something directly on the taskbar button the dialog box is, unfortunately, the sensible thing drang and drop is an IPC conversation between the source window and the target window, and where you drop the icon in the target window can result in different behaviors chosen by the target application(e.g. dropping an icon in the empty space of an Explorer window versus dropping it on top of one of the many folder icons) now of course you could extend out the drag and drop protocol to support a generic full window drop target, except this didn't exist when drag and drop was first created so you'd still have to handle the edge case of the target window not supporting the full window drop target, which means Explorer would still have to chastise you for dropping stuff on some (but not all) window icons. then you also have the problem where the window is a drop target but it is currently display a modal dialog box and can't accept any drops at all.
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Sep 1, 2021 18:25
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:go echo some random numbers into /proc about it Khorne fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 18:50
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pseudorandom name posted:the dialog box is, unfortunately, the sensible thing yeah sometimes it takes a bit of work to do something right
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Sep 1, 2021 18:52
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mystes posted:OK, I'll bite. How do you make chrome the default browser from powershell? quote:Set-ItemProperty -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Associations\UrlAssociations\http\UserChoice' -Name ProgID -Value "ChromeHTML" you can also import your app defaults from an xml file using dism from powershell. i'm not suggesting you should, but if you want to hit your balls with a hammer, powershell is there. Khorne posted:can you explain how I can figure this out from within powershell or some unified documentation source the unified documentation source is the entirety of technet, but if you're willing to accept that definition, all of the commands and commandlet references are there. spread across tens of thousands of different pages, some of which are depreciated or heavily version dependant for syntax or capabilities, and some may only be discoverable under the errata posted by microsoft engineers in the comments at the end of the actual article for the command. if you can't parse the command you've googled, don't just paste it into the shell and hope for the best, go find someone who knows what they're doing. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 21:38
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:set group policies accordingly. i have no idea which, but you absolutely can poke them from powershell, with a cmdlet that exists for that purpose. you actually can't set app associations by GPO directly, except by applying the registry entries or running a script that imports a pre-created xml file with the preferences in it. because gently caress you. also doing it via the xml file will just fail a lot of the time because windows will decide the entries are "corrupted" and it should reset everything to system defaults. because gently caress you. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 21:44
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:pretty sure im at least partially on windows for the foreseeable future. doubt mac will cover my needs (or rather my dumb wants) with a continued iosification, and my attempt to do 100% linux at work has already ended with me needing to bring in my private laptop tomorrow as screen sharing in zoom is not really in the realm of things doable even on modern hardware under linux in 2021 (no doubt zooms fault, but clearly a fully software pipeline where both zoom and xorg pegs cpu trying to memcpy pixels around and choking). i do zoom screen share several times per week on linux, kubuntu 20.04 with nvidia gpu and 21.04 with intel gpu, and have never had a single issue except for the one time i tried to use wayland recently
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Sep 2, 2021 00:05
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infernal machines posted:the unified documentation source is the entirety of technet, but if you're willing to accept that definition, all of the commands and commandlet references are there. spread across tens of thousands of different pages, some of which are depreciated or heavily version dependant for syntax or capabilities, and some may only be discoverable under the errata posted by microsoft engineers in the comments at the end of the actual article for the command. quote:if you can't parse the command you've googled, don't just paste it into the shell and hope for the best, go find someone who knows what they're doing. Khorne fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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Sep 2, 2021 00:21
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Khorne posted:thanks this is helpful. sounds no different from any other MS documentation project yeah basically whereas unixes have to assume that your documentation needs to exist solely on the system and in a format that can be printed through a teletypewriter from 1971, Windows and PowerShell understand that you most likely have a browser window open already, so everything's on MSDN/technet/docs.microsoft.com. you can download the equivalent of manpages in PowerShell once with Update-Help, then run Get-Help <cmdlet-name> for the "manpage" or Get-Help <cmdlet-name> -Online to open the full documentation in a browser (which I think you can do without running Update-Help)
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Sep 2, 2021 00:41
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you know what was actually good? windows help. just a searchable reference manual in a compact file format
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Sep 2, 2021 02:40
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what if we replaced windows help with hyperlinks to microsoft.com that were clearly designed to be permanent even in the face of site redesigns but we somehow managed to break them anyway?
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Sep 2, 2021 03:18
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pseudorandom name posted:what if we replaced windows help with hyperlinks to microsoft.com that were clearly designed to be permanent even in the face of site redesigns but we somehow managed to break them anyway? Taking care not to break some other rear end in a top hat's links doesn't get me a bonus Driving an initiative to drastically redesign the site backed by sweet, juicy analytics does get me a bonus
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Sep 2, 2021 03:40
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Khorne posted:I've only encountered easy to parse commands. The main issue I've had is I have no idea how the windows wizard who posted the command knew it existed. Powershell seems so oddly detached from windows despite being pretty powerful. yeah I mean it’s just one of those things where based on experience you can say - well all windows poo poo probably lives in the registry somewhere, so I can google where - well powershell is supposed to be the combination of language and library that lets you control windows things therefore it probably has a way to edit the registry because see above, so I can google what it is but that means you need to know those facts which is not exactly spread far and wide.
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Sep 2, 2021 13:33
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powershell is one of 100 interfaces to the same win32 apis so its more useful to know how the underlying stuff works rather than knowing powershell. this is in contrast to linuxes where knowing the shell commands and their individual syntaxes is 99% of interacting with the os.
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Sep 2, 2021 13:43
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Powershell is really good, you just need to inline some c# to pinvoke to get what you want!
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Sep 3, 2021 14:15
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Antigravitas posted:Powershell is really good, you just need to inline some c# to pinvoke to get what you want! i mean, you joke, but the fact that you can start with some "normal" powershell and segue into proper structured and typed programming is absolutely its best feature, where any amount of unix shellscripting in a larger project tends to be a wart and source of bugs. you can absolutely build on unix shell stuff, but tons of ad-hoc parsing of under-structured text rapidly creeps in
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The idea of piping structured data around is very good and powershell does that part pretty well, but if anything it imitates unix shells too closely and has too many warts that make it extremely annoying to use for anything that's more than a few lines of code. Just requiring strings to be quoted and making it slightly more like a normal programming language would have made it 1000 times better. Also, it kind of sucks to take the CLR and throw out all the type information to turn it into a big dynamically typed footgun. I have to wonder if they could have used row polymorphism and given it actual typechecking without making anything significantly more complicated for normal use. That said it's better than bash and I do end up using it just because it's installed by default on windows (although this is starting to become problematic because the framework version is so old now). It also is easy to do extremely ugly stuff which is probably a bad idea but gets the job done by using c# code using add-type. (Also, because of powershell not matching up with normal .net languages perfectly it unfortunately quickly ends up being easier to do anything complicated in c# rather than directly in powershell but it's also a pain in the rear end to translate code between powershell and c#.) mystes fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Sep 3, 2021 14:31
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powershell should have just been c# script instead of quasi-bash.
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Sep 3, 2021 14:48
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mystes posted:It's the last straw in the war on configurability. I'm going back to gnome 3. Gross, at least go back to the good gnome. Gnome 2.0
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mystes posted:That said it's better than bash glowing praise
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Shaggar posted:powershell should have just been c# script instead of quasi-bash.
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lomarf Earlier today, Microsoft pushed a promotional message to early adopters of Windows 11. The promo intended to promote the upcoming operating system’s integration with Microsoft Teams. Instead, it caused Explorer (the Windows desktop shell) to stop responding and left users without a working Start menu and taskbar.
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Sep 4, 2021 12:23
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dear microsoft, please stop blasting me with ads in the product i paid for
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Sep 4, 2021 13:14
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infernal machines posted:dear microsoft, please stop blasting me with ads in the product i paid for the xboxification of windows
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infernal machines posted:dear microsoft, please stop blasting me with ads in the product i paid for when they started giving windows 10 away for free they very conveniently forgot that anyone had ever paid for windows and didn’t deserve to be subjected to their bonzi buddy rear end poo poo
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Sep 4, 2021 17:06
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there is no amount you can pay for a software or consumer electronics product to make it not have advertisements anymore
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Sep 4, 2021 22:08
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Jenny Agutter posted:there is no amount you can pay for a software or consumer electronics product to make it not have advertisements anymore nobody cancelled their cable TV over it despite being for-pay due to being ad-free, once the ads crept in, people still happily paid increasing rates so why would this be any different, the precedent is set, its just riding consumer temperature until you can get it in there
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makes u think
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Sep 7, 2021 17:01
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kinda shameful to let that many unread posts pile up
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Sep 7, 2021 17:53
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lol https://twitter.com/wdormann/status/1437530613536501765
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Sep 14, 2021 03:33
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looks like windows is not the best linux anymore
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Sep 14, 2021 05:33
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lol they stuck URL protocols associations in the same namespace as file associations 25 years ago and nobody noticed it was exploitable until now
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it’s quite possible, maybe even likely, that nobody currently at Microsoft knew about that behavior
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quote:To register an application to handle a particular URI scheme, add a new key, along with the appropriate subkeys and values, to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT. The root key must match the URI scheme that is being added. For instance, to add an "alert:" scheme, add an alert key to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, as follows: lmao
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pseudorandom name posted:lol they stuck URL protocols associations in the same namespace as file associations 25 years ago and nobody noticed it was exploitable until now I’m off to exploit NT 4 SP3 with Active Desktop updates!
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