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Jose posted:the US isn't a first world country lol The US is the definitional first world country, if you mean the us isn't a developed country then yes lol
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Those videos of basement apartments getting suddenly flooded... That's the kind of poo poo that kills a lot of people. Here's national numbers provided by NWS La Crosse. https://www.weather.gov/arx/usflood
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Crazypoops posted:all of our institutions (the ones that are left anyway) are absolutely paralyzed
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Raine posted:you forgot to factor in that the usa is a failed state Well I know that, but I was interested in exactly how that failure happened.
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Pryor on Fire posted:Yes and it will take months to gut and rebuild all the buildings that flooded, everyone who lived on lower floors with sewage everywhere is out of the building until that happens. i hope this doesn't get in the way of the landlords evicting them  those landlords need that money
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dew worm posted:love to have once a century storms hit twice a summer It's possible (0.1%). Now if it happens every summer
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empty whippet box posted:i hope this doesn't get in the way of the landlords evicting them The landlord is Mother Nature. She's here to evict us all.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Yep, a real government would have made a mandatory curfew/evac by noon so that all the transit could have been closed off safely hours before this hit. NYC gets localized flooding in the subways or low-lying areas all the time (e.g. Henri two weeks ago) but nobody takes it seriously - they pump it out and we go on with our lives. Last time they shut down the city for weather it was a worthless power move by cuomo and everybody thought it was dumb. This is literally unprecendented.
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Is there a difference in who pays for preventative measures such as evacuations vs who pays for cleanup and recovery after the fact? I would imagine the latter gets more money from the federal government.
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there is going to be a scary moment when the novelty of new jersey tornadoes ends 
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ricecult posted:Well I know that, but I was interested in exactly how that failure happened. In one of his more famous speeches, former President Dwight Eisenhower cautioned against letting the military-industrial complex take over the government. When Ronald Reagan came to power, it was realized that endlessly increasing spending in the MIC could “win” the US the Cold War (since the USSR couldn’t keep up) and additionally make certain people filthy rich—especially if taxes are reduced on all that income. In the intervening decades, reducing military spending or increasing taxes has been a sure fire way to end your political tenure. But since you can’t print money endlessly to cover spending increases and income shortfalls, the US government has had to cut back elsewhere. Like infrastructure, postal services, basic science, arts, social welfare spending, regulatory agencies, and pretty much anything else that doesn’t make Dick Cheney’s hunting buddies richer. Grundulum has issued a correction as of 16:06 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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shirts and skins posted:That monster's getting nowhere near land thankfully monkey's paw curls
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bowser posted:Is there a difference in who pays for preventative measures such as evacuations vs who pays for cleanup and recovery after the fact? I would imagine the latter gets more money from the federal government. Preventative? lol this is America, we only deal with catastrophes, from weather to energy, climate, health care. GTFO with your preventative bullshit.
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ricecult posted:Well I know that, but I was interested in exactly how that failure happened. the voters demanded it
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quote:New York Gov. Kathy Hochul told CNN the rain was "far more than anyone really expected"
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Lawlicaust posted:A buddy in the Bronx barely got out alive last night. Basement apartment but not in a really low area. Around midnight water rushed in and rapidly filled his place. He only had time to grab his cat and get out. By the time he got out, the water was at his chest. He lost literally everything except his cat and his phone.
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SirPablo posted:Preventative? lol this is America, we only deal with catastrophes, from weather to energy, climate, health care. GTFO with your preventative bullshit. also if any effects take longer than 24 hours to happen after the initial event it's officially completely unrelated
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7.5" rain here in SW CT last night, I have never heard anything like that. Our house is in a 'bowl' at the bottom of a hill near some major intersecting roads, we always get some standing water in the back yard during heavy rain but last night our back yard was a loving pond, I measured it 8" by the watermark on the fence. I've worried flood waters would get into our lower level since we moved in here in 2014 and it finally happened, some minor flooding I was able to clean up easily thankfully. Lost power but got it back. Sump pump was working fuckin overtime. I have to get the back yard drainage thing fixed ASAP because these storms are only going to get more insane!!! woooooo!!!!!!!
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ricecult posted:Well I know that, but I was interested in exactly how that failure happened. 
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:also if any effects take longer than 24 hours to happen after the initial event it's officially completely unrelated That cut you submerged in the floodwater is now necrotic and you're dead of sepsis. That was a common story among the poor back in previous storms before the healthcare system was totally hosed by covid.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Yep, a real government would have made a mandatory curfew/evac by noon so that all the transit could have been closed off safely hours before this hit. That sounds like you don't believe in the marketplace of ideas, citizen. Report to the nearest McCamp for reeducation.
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shyduck posted:And here's what happened: Every morning I wake up and open palm slam the SPC Day 3 Outlook straight into my eye slots
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Rubellavator posted:just thinking about all the people who live in NE talking about how nobody should live in New Orleans last week.
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Rubellavator posted:just thinking about all the people who live in NE talking about how nobody should live in New Orleans last week. when NOLA's sending their hurricanes they're not sending their best
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Raine posted:the usa is a failed state Crazypoops posted:all of our institutions (the ones that are left anyway) are absolutely paralyzed People look for revolutionary flashpoints anywhere we can find them but I legit think that the states almost wholesale inability to respond to these every year disasters as they literally wash/burn peoples lives away is going to be a major factor in people's trust in institutions completely breaking down. Looking forward to reading this thread and watching only the most halfassed cleanup in the following months.
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GoLambo posted:Looking forward to reading this thread and watching only the most halfassed cleanup in the following months. Those 'cleanups' will just be handouts to private companies who will never do the job and just pocket the money.
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shyduck posted:Raritan River (major artery through central NJ) is at record height Wondering if 29 still completely and utterly floods out or if they finally got around to fixing that particular issue.
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it is my firm belief that any reasonable climate plan would include at least a 10x increase in the budget of the National Weather Service
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Luneshot posted:it is my firm belief that any reasonable climate plan would include at least a 10x increase in the budget of the National Weather Service lol it wouldn't matter. NWS predicted New York and PA last night just fine but no one listened or prepared. Governmental or otherwise.
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bowser posted:Is there a difference in who pays for preventative measures such as evacuations vs who pays for cleanup and recovery after the fact? I would imagine the latter gets more money from the federal government. MOSES built an ARK all by himself!!
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Luneshot posted:it is my firm belief that any reasonable climate plan would include at least a 10x increase in the budget of the National Weather Service I have a friend in California that I texted last week because I thought the fire was close to his house Turns out he had to evacuate, but he only found out about it because he was up at 1AM watching television. When he asked the authorities why he didn't get any emergency notices on his phone, it turns out in California you have to opt-in to them Failed loving country
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Wamsutta posted:7.5" rain here in SW CT last night, I have never heard anything like that. Our house is in a 'bowl' at the bottom of a hill near some major intersecting roads, we always get some standing water in the back yard during heavy rain but last night our back yard was a loving pond, I measured it 8" by the watermark on the fence. I've worried flood waters would get into our lower level since we moved in here in 2014 and it finally happened, some minor flooding I was able to clean up easily thankfully. Lost power but got it back. Sump pump was working fuckin overtime. I have to get the back yard drainage thing fixed ASAP because these storms are only going to get more insane!!! woooooo!!!!!!! That's what you get for living in Fairfield County 
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