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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Really cool last couple weeks where everyone got what they wanted. GOP nixed abortion in TX, can go on about Afghanistan, continue to destroy states and the Dems have amazing fundraising talking points and fodder to SURELY get out the vote. Everyone wins!

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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The most hardcore Dems I know (named their dog RBG, meant it as a compliment) feel like poo poo rn, because they genuinely believed we spent the past 20 years in Afghanistan supporting women's rights. It's the blue version of how conservatives genuinely believed that we were making Iraq better

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

We'll see if the "we don't have to make it illegal if we just open the litigation floodgates for private citizen lawsuits to make it too expensive" method starts being applied to other things.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Jan 6th Defendant: I no longer believe in conspiracy theories related to January 6th, please release me

Judge: I will release you, stay off the internet and no more conspiracy poo poo

Jan 6th Defendant: *uses internet to tune in to Lindell conspiracy theory event week*

Judge: you are going back to jail now

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1429802899106828294

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1433452797110931464

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Madurai posted:

We'll see if the "we don't have to make it illegal if we just open the litigation floodgates for private citizen lawsuits to make it too expensive" method starts being applied to other things.

SCOTUS will absolutely give cover for red states to do it

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
The comedic clusterfuck in the Texas State courts is going to be amazing.

https://twitter.com/Tierney_Megan/status/1433456635557654533

The way the law is, Texas Right to Life can't do anything, but a pop-up person, or Texas Right to Schmife can just come in until the whole law is halted.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

facialimpediment posted:

The way the law is, Texas Right to Life can't do anything, but a pop-up person, or Texas Right to Schmife can just come in until the whole law is halted.

Texas Smite to Rife

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


is it possible to set requirements as bail instead? Like, get a vaccination/obtain proof or else you can sit your rear end in jail until it's time for your hearing. Feels like that would do more good than 2000$ in a bail bond.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Sep 2, 2021

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Madurai posted:

We'll see if the "we don't have to make it illegal if we just open the litigation floodgates for private citizen lawsuits to make it too expensive" method starts being applied to other things.

Depends what other things it's being applied to. If it's Blue Team doing something they want the SCOTUS will poo poo on it from great heights, grant immediate injunctions and overturn it at lightning speed. If it's Red Team, it will get the exact treatment we're seeing now. "Welp can't do anything about it right now gotta let it go in to effect and then we'll get around to reviewing it probably some time eventually oh whoopsiedoodle every agency targeted by this is now bankrupt welp nobody could see that coming gee that sucks seeya guys next year."

This is the return on investment for the decades and decades of monied right wing interests purchasing the judicial branch. They're gonna get what they paid for.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Defenestrategy posted:

is it possible to set requirements as bail instead? Like, get a vaccination or else you can sit your rear end in jail until it's time for your hearing. Feels like that would do more good than 2000$ in a bail bond.

That’s pre-trial probation and multiple judges have used that exact condition.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/us/ohio-judge-covid-vaccine.amp.html

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
drat I wish I understood the lanyard way so I had insight in to how we're going to bipartisan our way out of this mess our nation is in

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/1433440067998126081

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Meanwhile, lockdown is going well in NZ:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...ly-unacceptable


quote:

A man who has tested positive for Covid-19 was taken into custody after allegedly absconding from a quarantine facility in Auckland and heading back to his home.
It has emerged the man spent 12 hours on the run after leaving the Novotel Ellerslie facility at 1am before being caught early on Thursday afternoon



https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-family-transferred-after-miq-meltdown/F6HSUP47MRDSW3E33NNTS26WVM/


quote:

MIQ officials have transferred a family with Covid-19 to a different isolation facility after a mum angry about her children's meal had a highly visible meltdown - leaving her room against regulation, screaming profanities at staff and military personnel, throwing an item against the wall in the hotel lobby and appearing to climb over the reception desk.

:negative:

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

lol how quaint, we're experiencing a 7 day average of 1500 deaths/day

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/08/26/gunman-in-racist-tirade-in-brickell-testifies-during-stand-your-ground-hearing/

Mark Bartlett, the guy from Miami-Dade who pulled a gun on a bunch of kids protesting for affordable housing a few years back and called them the N-word before and during the incident, does not get to use FL stand your ground to get immunity. Trial in December. The original incident was back in 2019.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Good

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

maffew buildings posted:

drat I wish I understood the lanyard way so I had insight in to how we're going to bipartisan our way out of this mess our nation is in

Is there some single party path to success in your mind that is lying unutilized?

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
yeah, the party in power acting like it and pushing legislation they campaigned on or say they value but then they would be off the McConnell Christmas card list

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Someone in Langley just got the biggest and dumbest grin on their face.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
polisci and law twitter melting down today because Republicans just keep doing all the things they said they'd do in spite of norms and jurisprudence

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Proud Christian Mom posted:

polisci and law twitter melting down today because Republicans just keep doing all the things they said they'd do in spite of norms and jurisprudence

Anyone who is surprised at this development is stupid as poo poo and anyone who expresses public surprise is dumber still

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Question that I just saw brought up: can people out of state sue under the new law? How does standing even work? don't you have to prove that *you* were hurt as part of filing a lawsuit?

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

RFC2324 posted:

Question that I just saw brought up: can people out of state sue under the new law? How does standing even work? don't you have to prove that *you* were hurt as part of filing a lawsuit?

the law gives you standing

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Proud Christian Mom posted:

the law gives you standing

the law is just 'abortion hurts everyone so we can all sue'?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
On that note, Biden has directed HHS and the DOJ to figure out whatever they can do to shield Texas women from this bullshit and Pelosi said they’re going to pass a federal codification of Roe.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Mr. Nice! posted:

Pelosi said they’re going to pass a federal codification of Roe.

Cool now call me when you get it through the Senate.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Midjack posted:

Cool now call me when you get it through the Senate.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Almost 50 years late seems about right for the Democrats.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1433508807917940737?t=bTUjd3Xp3hpNs1cpgzLZZA&s=19

If D's can't pass this and/or voting rights bill, it is gonna be a bloodbath next year

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Nick Soapdish posted:

it is gonna be a bloodbath next year

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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They won’t do poo poo lol. I mean come on we already knew this.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
https://www.reuters.com/business/he...ows-2021-08-31/

My exact reaction to this was me saying “oh gently caress the gently caress right the gently caress off” out loud.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

:rip: that species

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

What could possibly go wrong?

Buttchocks
Oct 21, 2020

No, I like my hat, thanks.
:rip: every snake species

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Buttchocks posted:

:rip: every snake species

On the plus side, if this increases the number of snake handling evangelicals in the US I support it.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

wonder how much work it would take to turn this into a bunch of rednecks getting bit to poo poo by rattlesnakes

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The idea that Joe manchin is a deeply principled guy who can't be bought into something (whose daughter by no doubt her own virtues rose to being a pharma CEO) is the most irritating obvious lie in politics imo.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RFC2324 posted:

wonder how much work it would take to turn this into a bunch of rednecks getting bit to poo poo by rattlesnakes

And with the wrong snakes.

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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

MazelTovCocktail posted:

And with the wrong snakes.

"A pit viper's a pit viper, and I, for one, don't wanna get bit by nothin' other than a cold-red-blooded AMUR'KAN pit viper!" :patriot:

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