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Milo and POTUS posted:Mouse3 isn't working on my still relatively new (~8months) wireless razer basilisk. It's done this before and last time it just randomly started working again but I have no clue if I actually did anything to make it work. Every youtube vid on the middle mouse button focuses on the scroll but really the clicking is way important to me for both browsing (opening and closing tabs especially) and gaming (alt fire generally). I'm an idiot and it didn't have a receipt so I never bothered to fill out the warranty. I assume it's too late for that? Anyway, is this typical in any way? To add on, just about any place you bought it from, unless it was used or the like, can print you out a new receipt. Best Buy I know can, but that might depend on if you gave them your name and such. Walmart could be iffy, but they should? If you have a can of compressed air, ya might want to try and shoot it down the sides of the wheel. It could be something as simple as a hair is caught in there preventing the connection somehow.
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Yeah I'm going to try that next time I go to town. Anyway, my sister bought it with an employee discount and I'm not sure if that's pertinent or not
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Speaking of Razer, I’ve decided to step away from MMO mice so I’m either looking at the Deathadder or Basilisk (V2 with the optical switches, I don’t care about wireless.) I guess the Basilisk is more customizable and the Deathadder is more ergonomic out of the box, but I’m not super picky about mice as long as they have a couple customizable buttons. Tilt scroll wheel or whatever it’s called isn’t a big deal to me either way. Does anyone have a recommendation either way? e: I think I’m a fingertip grip person, so whichever mouse is better for that is likely the winner. e2: I ordered the Deathadder. Arivia fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Arivia posted:Speaking of Razer, I’ve decided to step away from MMO mice so I’m either looking at the Deathadder or Basilisk (V2 with the optical switches, I don’t care about wireless.) I guess the Basilisk is more customizable and the Deathadder is more ergonomic out of the box, but I’m not super picky about mice as long as they have a couple customizable buttons. Tilt scroll wheel or whatever it’s called isn’t a big deal to me either way. Unless you have very large hands you'll probably have trouble with a fingertip grip on the DeathAdder. I have medium-small hands and I can barely even claw grip it. The Basilisk works better for me for both of those grips (despite not being able to reach the sniper button). I certainly wouldn't call it less ergonomic either, but it's slightly heavier.
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runawayturtles posted:Unless you have very large hands you'll probably have trouble with a fingertip grip on the DeathAdder. I have medium-small hands and I can barely even claw grip it. The Basilisk works better for me for both of those grips (despite not being able to reach the sniper button). I certainly wouldn't call it less ergonomic either, but it's slightly heavier. I guess I have monster hands then, since it's been working out great for me so far!
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Looking for a corded mouse with at least three buttons and a scroll wheel, been using a logitech g300 for a year or so and have found it fine but the left clicker is failing and so I’m kinda against dropping cash for a new one after it only lasting that long. Don’t need anything fancy, are there any suggestions for a sturdy enough mouse to swap for it that won’t break the bank?
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All modern mice with physical switches tend to fail prematurely, apparently due to below-spec voltages causing switches to stop switching properly. I don't have a comprehensive list of optical switch mice, but the Viper Mini is a $30 mouse with optical switches that should be much more reliable.
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Just get a Microsoft wired office mouse, they last as long as anything and they're $10.
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K8.0 posted:All modern mice with physical switches tend to fail prematurely, apparently due to below-spec voltages causing switches to stop switching properly. I don't have a comprehensive list of optical switch mice, but the Viper Mini is a $30 mouse with optical switches that should be much more reliable. Not all modern mice, just the ones chasing low power draw. A wired mouse should have much fewer issues since they're not trying to ration their battery. Supposedly local temperature/humidity also affects the double clicking issue frequency but that's harder to really confirm as the root cause.
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K8.0 posted:list of optical switch mice From the top of my head: Razer, Roccat, Steelseries(only their Prime mice), Coolermaster MM731. Probably missing a mouse or two. Honorable mention to some Asus mice that let you hotswap the switches which also gets around the double click issue. Kitfox88 posted:Looking for a corded mouse with at least three buttons and a scroll wheel, been using a logitech g300 for a year or so and have found it fine but the left clicker is failing and so I’m kinda against dropping cash for a new one after it only lasting that long. Don’t need anything fancy, are there any suggestions for a sturdy enough mouse to swap for it that won’t break the bank? Try any mouse from the above list. Even better if you can give it a shot in person to see if you like the shape. All of them except Coolermaster should have a wired option that fits your criteria while also being inexpensive.
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I go through a G600 about every other year and mine just started double clicking again. They're cheap enough that I don't really mind, but I figured I'd do my due diligence and explore other options. Are there any other MMO mice with a ring finger button? I find that pretty crucial in games for stuff like dodge/melee, and the 12 thumb buttons are essential for non-gaming use. Decent, supported drivers would be a plus as well. Triple bonus points if they can detect Game Pass games for profile switching. Logitech Gaming Software feels like and end-of-life product, but last I tried it, G-Hub was useless.
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Thoom posted:I go through a G600 about every other year and mine just started double clicking again. They're cheap enough that I don't really mind, but I figured I'd do my due diligence and explore other options. Lol I never knew that extra finger-scallop on the right side of the G600 was yet another button. There are other mice with the giant numpad of thumb buttons, but afaik no gaming type mouse at all does three buttons across the top like that. https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/razer/naga-pro https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/corsair/scimitar-rgb-elite https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/utechsmart/venus-pro https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/redragon/m913-impact-elite That brings up an interesting question: how many people here, in your normal mouse grip, have your fingers in A vs B? a) middle on the mouse wheel all the time, ring on right click b) middle on right click, ring for grip only, shift a finger to use wheel
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As a kid I was in the B camp (albeit with both fingers on RMB instead of using ring finger to grip), then after getting into FPS games I made a conscious decision to retrain myself to always keep my middle finger on the wheel. Solid A camp now. 
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isndl posted:As a kid I was in the B camp (albeit with both fingers on RMB instead of using ring finger to grip), then after getting into FPS games I made a conscious decision to retrain myself to always keep my middle finger on the wheel. Solid A camp now. i can feel a faint pain past my wrist just resting my middle finger on the MMB. i imagine i wouldn't last a day if i actually tried using it for clicking. although, if given the opportunity i rebind MMB to something else accessible by the index finger. e: while i'm here, i just wanted to say that on the whole i'm satisfied with the M720, but it has the worst thumb buttons i've ever used. they're small and not particularly comfortable, but the bigger issue is that there's three of them and it can be hard to tell them apart by touch. and accidentally pressing the third one can turn on my other computer.  really bad design, imo Rinkles fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Aug 31, 2021 |
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A if I'm using my Anker vertical mouse B if I'm using my G602/G604 My G602 that I got as a warranty replacement back in 2016 is actually still working like a champ. But I got the G604 as its eventual replacement since I know it's a ticking time bomb. Definitely do not like the way the scroll wheel feels on it though.
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gently caress MMOs but I have one of these and find it good for even the likes of your Warzone and such I mean you think, you have shoot, aim, grenade, reload, ping, melee, gadget, map, the list goes on. I like having a direct button for all of it
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codo27 posted:gently caress MMOs but I have one of these and find it good for even the likes of your Warzone and such yeah i'd like to try that. plus it has two extra index finger buttons. e:looks like it's out of stock in many places. (Rival 500)
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Klyith posted:That brings up an interesting question: how many people here, in your normal mouse grip, have your fingers in A vs B? B. But I also use my middle finger to scroll not my index finger. A / 131 style is just weird to me. Also it feels cramped with all 3 fingers across the top unless you have a seriously wide mouse.
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As long as you're not one of the subhumans who puts VOIP on mouse, do whatever you want. Any button that you may intermittently need to hold while aiming should not be on the mouse.
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halokiller posted:A if I'm using my Anker vertical mouse the g604's scroll wheel has a bit of a wear in period. It felt like complete poo poo for a couple days but spinning it a bunch in ratchet mode got it feeling more or less normal in short order and it hasn't changed much since.
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Rinkles posted:i'm assuming this isn't what you were referring to They probably meant this one  
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So I'm type A and while I figured B was the majority, I didn't know it was so overwhelming! Clarifies a couple things about mouse shape and especially wheel feel where I knew I had a different take than most people, but never knew why the other opinions were quite so vehement. Like, I never have problems with accidental wheel-scroll while middle-clicking or whatnot. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:A / 131 style is just weird to me. Also it feels cramped with all 3 fingers across the top unless you have a seriously wide mouse. I think it only works with some variation of palm grip. If you do claw or fingertip it would put too much stress on the pinky, since you need oppositional force vs the thumb to secure the mouse. (Personally I find claw completely mystifying, like just positioning my fingers in a claw grip on a mouse feels bad and torturous.) I do a sort of half-palm: the whole of my fingers and bottom of the knuckle is in contact with the mouse, but not the middle or heel of my palm. Results in a fairly straight wrist and fingers that seems to be good for ergo. All 3 fingers on the buttons and wheel are just barely apart, like a tiny air gap between them. The G700 isn't unusually wide, I guess I have slim fingers.
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I need a new mouse, and I've always had a wired mouse. How are wireless mice for FPS? I figured the technology has probably come a long way since I looked at wireless mice in like 2012. e: i have an old DeathAdder Chroma, and am looking at the DeathAdder v2 or pro, or taking other suggested for something with similar ergos.
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Wireless mice are good now, and perform just as well as wired mice. If you like the DeathAdder shape, the V2 or V2 Pro are both good choices. It just comes down to which slight hassle you'd prefer: a wire, or having to charge every few days.
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Optical switches are the way to avoid double click disease. There may be some wired mice running higher voltages and thus possibly being more reliable, but I wouldn't count on it in general. In terms of responsiveness, since Logitech and then Razer and then several others put out their latest gen wireless, most of the best performing mice are actually wireless. Unless you're going for an 8khz polling rate mouse, wireless is the way to go now if money is not a concern. Not having a cord and finally for REAL having no latency penalty is great.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Wired will probably last a little longer on average before developing Dread Doubleclick Disease, right? Not really an issue for someone looking at Razer mice with optical switches. For Logitech mice that have the big doubleclick issue in particular, maaaaybe. The DDD is a confluence of factors, only one of which is power saving for wireless battery. For one thing, the wired ones are using the same low voltage IC and circuits as the wireless ones.
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Pulsar's EC2 clone is now wireless, 58 grams, and has a 3370 and Kailh 8.0's. If I could change anything it would be swapping the scroll wheel encoder out for a slightly more tactile one.
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Yerok posted:Pulsar's EC2 clone is now wireless, 58 grams, and has a 3370 and Kailh 8.0's. If I could change anything it would be swapping the scroll wheel encoder out for a slightly more tactile one. Have a look at the MM730 - it's got the 3370, is 59g, a body that doesn't look like a grater, battery life that does last for days, and optical switches that don't feel any worse than the v1 Razer opticals. So far I've been pleasantly surprised by it.
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Tornhelm posted:Have a look at the MM730 - it's got the 3370, is 59g, a body that doesn't look like a grater, battery life that does last for days, and optical switches that don't feel any worse than the v1 Razer opticals. So far I've been pleasantly surprised by it. I'll probably try out an MM731 once they're on amazon. I just haven't found any optical switch implementation that I liked. If the KPA had better QC and mechanical switches I probably would have just stuck with that.
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Klyith posted:That brings up an interesting question: how many people here, in your normal mouse grip, have your fingers in A vs B? Just saw this, I'm in the A camp. Because so many people said they were B in this thread, I tried B and I was immediately like my hands, i don't understand them anymore EDIT: For fun, I put my mouse in my left hand, and it immediately went molded into B. My hands have different preferences! Artelier fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Kitfox88 posted:Looking for a corded mouse with at least three buttons and a scroll wheel, been using a logitech g300 for a year or so and have found it fine but the left clicker is failing and so I’m kinda against dropping cash for a new one after it only lasting that long. Don’t need anything fancy, are there any suggestions for a sturdy enough mouse to swap for it that won’t break the bank? Yeah Logi seems to be going down the drain more and more  The Steelseries Rival 3 gets mentioned a lot in the $30 segment. I got one yesterday and it seems nice enough, the software is not intrusive and you can ditch it after setting up the basics. Every setting bar the complex macros is saved to the mouse itself. It's very lightweight, so I actually had to fine tune some negative acceleration settings for short range precision. RGB options are very pretty but I got rid off it, too distracting in my FoV. Though it's strictly for claw grip or light semi-palm users only, the right ridge is too high/there is no thumb support for full palm resting. sauer kraut fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Klyith posted:That brings up an interesting question: how many people here, in your normal mouse grip, have your fingers in A vs B? I'm a bizarro mish-mash of the two: option A but I use middle finger to right-click. When I play WoW (which has this weird dual-camera-controlled-by-mouse setup), I have middle on right-click at all times and shift middle to use scrollwheel to adjust camera zoom or scroll a list or whatever else it does.
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