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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
It's hard in a relatively small community like this to remember who complains about what and how. To pretend a fanbase as large as WWE (even it shrunk a lot since 2014!) is so monolithic that these complaints are from the same type of fan let alone the same group of fans is so silly.

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FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo

Seams posted:

I lost a great deal of interest in NXT when it went on TV because it meant there was a delay in episodes being uploaded to the network.

:same:

That and it all seemed like a pre-emptive attempt to hobble AEW's potential viewership, where I wanted a non-WWE alternative company to succeed on a national / international scale.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

MassRafTer posted:

It's hard in a relatively small community like this to remember who complains about what and how. To pretend a fanbase as large as WWE (even it shrunk a lot since 2014!) is so monolithic that these complaints are from the same type of fan let alone the same group of fans is so silly.

I mean, yeah, this is always going to be the main issue with complaining about the fans as a rhetorical device. Large groups of people look monolithic but that is an illusion, and there are people who deffo called the high water mark at each of those points but that is kind of why it qualifies for this thread as a bad take. It's an easy bad take to make, but not everyone is hunting for dingers.

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


El Generico posted:

Really the writing should've been on the wall as soon as John Cena humiliated The Nexus

Fucker never put the shirt on, did he? :argh:

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Shot: https://twitter.com/LocalSoundwave/status/1433577557723684870

Chaser: https://twitter.com/donemessedup12/status/1433599116714684416

"Y'know who we should look to in this situation about mental health? Enzo."

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
If I had a dime for every time Enzo had a good take, I would have zero dimes

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://twitter.com/OkCoolSicEm/status/1433653132878352384?s=19
https://twitter.com/OkCoolSicEm/status/1433655653428613121?s=19

Put the belts on Penelope Ford and Yuta Wheeler.

Akileese
Feb 6, 2005


There was definitely a point where NXT was good. I don't remember what year it was but they were taping it in very large blocks, which was good! It meant there was continuity and structure in the product. I wanna say it was when Kevin Owens and Sami were still there but hell if I can remember what year that was. I just remember takeover was in Dallas that year and I was a bit pissed I couldn't go. We actually ended up driving to like, Tulsa to go to an NXT house show and had a blast when Joe and Balor were still there (the first time). I think Nakamura had just shown up and Andrade was still there too. I feel like it was 2016-2017 but I could be wrong.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

aew hasn't shown how cool penelope is at all yet. they should put her on the show doing something one of these days. ah, wrong thread. most threads are talking about AEW because it's the biggest game in town

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Penelope? What a Dope.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Akileese posted:

There was definitely a point where NXT was good. I don't remember what year it was but they were taping it in very large blocks, which was good! It meant there was continuity and structure in the product. I wanna say it was when Kevin Owens and Sami were still there but hell if I can remember what year that was. I just remember takeover was in Dallas that year and I was a bit pissed I couldn't go. We actually ended up driving to like, Tulsa to go to an NXT house show and had a blast when Joe and Balor were still there (the first time). I think Nakamura had just shown up and Andrade was still there too. I feel like it was 2016-2017 but I could be wrong.

nah, FCW+ becoming Paul's indie and international warehouse was way worse than NXT Redemption.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Akileese posted:

There was definitely a point where NXT was good. I don't remember what year it was but they were taping it in very large blocks, which was good! It meant there was continuity and structure in the product. I wanna say it was when Kevin Owens and Sami were still there but hell if I can remember what year that was. I just remember takeover was in Dallas that year and I was a bit pissed I couldn't go. We actually ended up driving to like, Tulsa to go to an NXT house show and had a blast when Joe and Balor were still there (the first time). I think Nakamura had just shown up and Andrade was still there too. I feel like it was 2016-2017 but I could be wrong.

NXT filmed in monthly blocks all the way through to going to 2 hours when it went on USA

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
https://mobile.twitter.com/WrestleAnalysis/status/1433880598339260417

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


oh this guy's a treasure:

https://twitter.com/WrestleAnalysis/status/1433194084160524288

Apparently Dark is a "main show" but NXT isn't?

Duke Pukem
Oct 23, 2010

Three cheers for dark beer!


the dude's trying to do some mental gymnastics but cant even manage a flip

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

yep. he's gone.

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





After Daffney's suicide, SCJerk's "real discussion" sister subreddit r/wreddit gets to the bottom of who's to blame.

quote:

As a company, be responsible for your own actions, actions of your wrestlers and actions of your fans. Tony himself is guilty of riling up his fanbase on social media by constantly poking at Vince, HHH, Nick Khan and WWE in general.

His current world champion calls opposing fans "E-Drones"

Punk used the same term on Busted Open radio yesterday to describe WWE fans and discredit them as not real wrestling fans.

He has a whole roster of guys constantly poking the bear on social media.

They make it seem like it fair game to attack WWE talent and it's especially awful for the female wrestlers because the awful things said can go far beyond just things that happen in the ring.

This in turn creates for a toxic fanbase and some recently have taken it to extremes, those who take actions like threatening a parody account by finding pictures of the guys children or harassing female wrestlers is disgusting. Female wrestlers have been stalked. Alexa was harassed online for nothing of her own doing and it was all started by someone I would have supposed was her friend in real life all because she knew she'd get attention by FED BADding on social media.

Those fans also likely have forms of mental Illness to go beyond the banter of "my team vs yours" and turn to real life harassment and bullying. Those people need help. Using them to fight your wars because is awful. AEW owners and associates stoking those fires is abhorrent.

However, in most sports, teams would distance themselves from fans who bring their teams name into disrepute like this and ban them from their grounds. I argue that AEW encourages this behavior. They are all too quick to jump on social media to FED BAD but NEVER address things like what happened Botchmania this week for example. I'm absolutely shocked Tony did not publicly apologize to that man and tell his fans that what they did is unacceptable to AEW. I believe they have a part to play here.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Dimebags Brain posted:

After Daffney's suicide, SCJerk's "real discussion" sister subreddit r/wreddit gets to the bottom of who's to blame.

Was Daffney ever in WWE? I thought she started in WCW and ended in TNA?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Was Daffney ever in WWE? I thought she started in WCW and ended in TNA?

She was very briefly under a developmental deal in OVW.

Tampa Bae
Aug 23, 2021

Please, this is all I have
I don't think we should pull poo poo posts relating to Daffney, I don't care how stupid of a take it is

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I think this one's okay because it's merely incidentally about Daffney but yeah there's probably some stuff best left avoided.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Was Daffney ever in WWE? I thought she started in WCW and ended in TNA?

"Owning WCW = WCW was always WWE" is how dense these people are, especially newer fans who have only ever seen WWE.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Fresh Kurtz just dropped.

https://twitter.com/mkurtz91/status/1434234466340384770

https://twitter.com/mkurtz91/status/1434248489928728576

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Gosh! They really DO pay him to be controversial!

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
I briefly scanned that tweet and I was like "buddy, they have library passp--- oh."

Dr. Baker
Jan 25, 2012

Numb me, drill me
Floss me, bill me
https://twitter.com/Marie_Shadows/status/1434493619789078529?s=19

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

We say it all the time, but WWE really hosed up some people's brains when it comes to enjoying wrestling, didn't it? "Toxic positivity" :rolleyes:

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019


Extremely concerned about people in AEW enjoying themselves too much

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

It's almost like they're not watching the show and missed the bit where Punk said 'please tell us what you don't like cause that's feedback'

Dr. Baker
Jan 25, 2012

Numb me, drill me
Floss me, bill me
There needs to be a balance of things we like about the show and things we hate about the show. I'll start a list.

Sticky Nate
Jan 9, 2012

Mike Kurtz needs to talk some sense into Marie

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
Fans can't just enjoy a show. They need some realism, to balance out all the toxic positivity.

*watches a sports entertainment show where a doll costs a sports entertainer a match by "winking" at them, and an Irish sports entertainer has the ability to transform into a demon*

keithy george
Jan 8, 2008


Infographic says Penelope Cruz lol

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

keithy george posted:

Infographic says Penelope Cruz lol

Quick, someone whip up a "Penelope Cruz is All Elite" graphic :v:

In all seriousness, that's awesome for Penelope Ford. She's got a ton of appeal and I think she has what it takes to be another breakout star for AEW along the lines of Britt Baker.

Destroy My Sweater
Jul 24, 2009

lol this thread is going to be amazing over the next 24 hours

e:

https://twitter.com/HecBitw/status/1434726604886970371

https://twitter.com/wwe_wwf_Junkie/status/1434726505133793282

Destroy My Sweater fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Sep 6, 2021

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


https://twitter.com/barbershopwind2/status/1434726258735255552

https://twitter.com/barbershopwind2/status/1434726507071614976

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
https://twitter.com/MikeJ0nesssssss/status/1434732013852954624

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

lol at Smackdown killing anything its up against that night let alone an all time great PPV

zimbomonkey
Jul 15, 2008

Tattoos? On MY black quarterback?
lol at calling that a "decent show"

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flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
aew's problem is that they're too exciting and giving people too much of what they want

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