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CFox posted:I'll agree with others that whatever limits you setup are going to be bypassed but that's a whole different conversation. As an alternative to a Pi-Hole have you looked into just setting an alternate DNS provider on your router? I see that adguard offers "family protection" DNS servers that should block ads and porn sites: https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html Thanks - I may try this. And thanks all - we have talked to our kids about inappropriate stuff online.
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KozmoNaut posted:Are you seeing any queries on the Pi-Hole's web interface? Hard same. I can attribute most of my career to the Bellsouth parental controls. OP verify that the Pihole is getting queries via the admin page. If so, then everything is good and you need to add some additional rules/lists to get things where you need them to be. As others have mentioned there are some (eg- YouTube) that you can’t block via DNS filtering but it’ll be a start; pair with Ublock Origin for best results. Also talk with the kiddos about what to expect with the internet. They’re going to find it no matter what and worst case you make them hyper tech savvy and then they become goons. You don’t want that I assume. E - Need to post my drafts before hopping in the shower.
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Cloudflare also has an anti-malware DNS at 1.1.1.2/1.0.0.2. Its "kid-friendly" filter is way too aggressive and is going to severely restrict the YouTube videos that show up, which is how you raise future computer science majors. It's also a good DNS for low ping and all-around good performance. https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-1-1-1-1-for-families/
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On the subject of tech parenting, OP when are you getting the kids forums accounts? If not completely clear, I am explicitly stating that this is a joke.
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My kids are too young for either but I'd much rather them have SA accounts than Reddit or Facebook ones nowadays.
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On the topic of pihole config, how does it relate to dns over http? I’ve got mine set up using cloudflared as its resolver but I’m not clear as to how that relates to doh requests initiated by a browser on my pc for example. I could be wrong but my understanding is that if a browser decides to use doh by default then those requests won’t go via the pihole and won’t get filtered. Is that the case, and if so, is there a way to get the pihole to handle doh requests as well? And how would I configure the clients on my network to use the pihole as it’s doh resolver by default?
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Just a small reminder that today is August 25th. Why?30 years ago posted:Hello everybody out there using minix -
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Thank you Linus for rescuing me from a lifetime of adminning Solaris servers.
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I'm very pleased with myself that I dusted off some very long dormant skills and with the help of The Internet set up Ubuntu 20 on a Pi 3 and am running my TP-Link Omada network controller on it. Only had to do everything over twice! Now I kind of want to get one to gently caress around with.
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beuges posted:On the topic of pihole config, how does it relate to dns over http? I’ve got mine set up using cloudflared as its resolver but I’m not clear as to how that relates to doh requests initiated by a browser on my pc for example. Browsers are variable. Firefox will resolve DoH by itself directly to cloudflare, unless you either have an about∶config pref set or have a canary domain blocked with normal DNS. So the best way to force firefox to use your pihole is to add that domain to your blocklist. Chrome sticks to the OS DNS addresses and automatically tries to use DoH with them, and that it fails uses normal DNS. quote:I could be wrong but my understanding is that if a browser decides to use doh by default then those requests won’t go via the pihole and won’t get filtered. Is that the case, and if so, is there a way to get the pihole to handle doh requests as well? And how would I configure the clients on my network to use the pihole as it’s doh resolver by default? AFAIK setting up the cloudflared thing is how you make the pihole into a DoH provider. After that you just need to make sure the PCs on your network are using the pihole as their DNS, and handle the firefox thing if you use firefox.
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DNS over HTTPS, DNS over TLS and hardcoded DNS addresses in applications will bypass whichever DNS is set in the client operating system. DoT can be blocked easily, since it runs on port 853, which is distinct from other traffic. Block that port in your router, and nothing can resolve via DoT. Ordinary DNS of course uses port 53, which can also be blocked. Obviously you'll want to set an exception for those blocks to allow your Pi-Hole through  DoH is the one that's really annoying to try and block, since it runs on port 443, just like any other HTTPS traffic. Realistically, what you have to do is to block the IPs of all known DoH resolvers, ie. Google, Cloudflare, AdGuard and a bunch of others, and you'll have to add any new resolvers to that list as they appear. And of course none of this helps if the applications or devices in question simply connect to DNS servers over non-standard ports or to a private DNS server set up by the manufacturer. You'll have to look through traffic logs to spot those and block them, and if you reach that point you really should have reconsidered which devices you allow onto your home network, a long time ago.
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edit: enabling WPA3 broke connecting to my Pi 3 unless I used "pi3.local" instead of "pi3"  For some reason "pi3" is pointing to an unused IP.editedit: Think it was Pi-Hole loving something up, disabling its static IP configuration fixed it. Malloc Voidstar fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Aug 30, 2021 |
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kliras posted:Cloudflare also has an anti-malware DNS at 1.1.1.2/1.0.0.2. Its "kid-friendly" filter is way too aggressive and is going to severely restrict the YouTube videos that show up, which is how you raise future computer science majors. It's also a good DNS for low ping and all-around good performance. It is a start but the list is basically so limited, it is useless towards how hard some ad networks go at it. Using DNS confusion, fly-by-night domains, constantly updating domains that pretend to be something else, xn* domains, much more. You might protect your kiddies from YouPorn and Redtube, but ads will get to anyone if they really want to.
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Greetings people. Currently due to technical limitations and some requirements I offload certain basic functions from my main PC onto a secondary one. These are almost always ancillary tasks that are or could be completed in a browser. I had an older one of these years ago and at the time was obviously just impressed and gleeful at how accessible and good these are. Anyway, due to the unnecessary ish power consumption (and waste heat) I'm trying to look at lower power alternatives than running a full rear end 2600x/gtx1060 in tandem with another full rear end even hotter desktop. Tldr I suspect one of these would be fine for 1080p (or even 720 I guess, Im not sure I care) YouTube / voice over discord / YouTube music while running a browser. I am curious if there's things I'm overlooking or glaringly obvious reasons this is a bad idea. The heaviest multitasking it might do is loading a webpage (figure like, cnn) while idling discord + streaming music from ytmusic If I am on the right track, do you think 4gb would do it? It feels on-the-cusp ish but I'm not familiar with this hardware or OS to know for sure. I guess the 8gb would let me multitask more but I assume that the bigger my aspirations the more elaborate the cooling setup required, as relatively minimal as it might be Ty and I hope this post made sense
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I doubt thermals will be an issue. The Pi4 PSU is 5V 3A recommended, so that's 15W max power draw. A bunch is reserved for USB power and it looks like the top-out is somewhere around 9-10W for the box itself. You just won't be generating that much heat. Put a heatsink on the CPU, DRAM, ethernet controller and USB controller and you'll improve thermals. Get a case with a fan and even under full load you'll probably never trip thermals, and there are passive cooling cases that are quite effective (although larger and more expensive) if you don't want a fan. I believe there are complaints about Youtube, specifically performance when entering/exiting fullscreen mode, but I am passing along 2nd/3rd hand rumors.
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I'm having a lot of fun playing with tensorflow lite on the Pi using a Coral USB accelerator - The Coral is an Edge TPU accelerator that increases the frame rate on the object detection from around 2 fps to 20+ Using a default model I have it detecting lots of different things on my garden cctv camera - identifying a bird flying past in a fraction of second is quite cool. I've poked it so when it detects people it triggers an event in Blue Iris - As the moment I have it ignoring (other than logging) all other objects - though it also looks out for giraffes ! If I manage to record one in the middle of England I will consider this project to be a success... I saw some sample code that will crop out the detected object from the video stream so the next little project is to do that and save the cropped images of what it detects.
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Neat project, thanks for sharing… I long for the day when the the compute power and models are good enough that most of the useful stuff can be accomplished locally and the gains from shipping our personal data everywhere in the cloud are only on specialized edge cases. Plus, Tensor Processing Unit sounds badass
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I doubt thermals will be an issue. The Pi4 PSU is 5V 3A recommended, so that's 15W max power draw. A bunch is reserved for USB power and it looks like the top-out is somewhere around 9-10W for the box itself. You just won't be generating that much heat. Put a heatsink on the CPU, DRAM, ethernet controller and USB controller and you'll improve thermals. Get a case with a fan and even under full load you'll probably never trip thermals, and there are passive cooling cases that are quite effective (although larger and more expensive) if you don't want a fan. Thank you for this excellent response. I don't think the YouTube thing would hinder me but it's good to know. I may/probably will end up going a route where I don't plug this into a display at all and just remote in. Due to the nature of it I would need a GUI, these would support chrome remote desktop now I assume?
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Statutory Ape posted:Thank you for this excellent response. I don't think the YouTube thing would hinder me but it's good to know. Can't say as I have CLI-only Ubuntu server installed on it and only use SSH/browser to access Omada Controller but I am pretty sure you can use VNC Viewer on PiOS if you need to access full GUI
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I doubt thermals will be an issue. The Pi4 PSU is 5V 3A recommended, so that's 15W max power draw. A bunch is reserved for USB power and it looks like the top-out is somewhere around 9-10W for the box itself. You just won't be generating that much heat. Put a heatsink on the CPU, DRAM, ethernet controller and USB controller and you'll improve thermals. Get a case with a fan and even under full load you'll probably never trip thermals, and there are passive cooling cases that are quite effective (although larger and more expensive) if you don't want a fan. Agree with everything you said. For some added info: I measured power draw with a Kill-A-Watt on a CanaKit form factor Pi3 and IIRC (which was like....2016...so maybe memory is bad) it peaked at 11W with the AC-DC converter, WiFi module, and fan, etc. That power has to go somewhere so it will dissipate 11W of heat (inclusive of the power supply). YouTube performance on the 3 was bad. I'd imagine the Pi4 is slightly higher but don't know the design at all. 11W is not much heat. JUST THE CPU in my computer dissipates 65W at full tilt. My previous CPU was 95W. My whole PC is probably closer to 400W. That said I have also done the same thing with a 2016-era ITX formfactor mobo and meagerly spec'd CPU and gotten it to like 14W and that's with 8GB of memory and an SSD. The Pi4 adds a lot of capability but if you don't care about the Pi4's convenient IO or small form factor, you can get the heat output very low and enjoy the benefits of a fully functioning computer. YouTube performance on that PC was good. The purpose of this was to conserve power on a robot I was making on the iRobot create platform. The ITX Mobo ended up being a much much much better choice. The ~4% decrease in max runtime was worth the ease of configuration and throughput of a full computer. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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With each generation of the pi I've made an attempt to do a workstation thin client type setup and it's always been miserable. Like you can get things running okay and it seems promising at first, but then you run face first into the limits of its computational power and the experiment ends. Browsing the modern internet is by far the worst part and if you can't do that these days the computer is pretty useless, javascript just destroys it. Video is marginally better but not something I'd want to rely on.
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Yeah I'd have to figure you're probably better off spending $200 on a used NUC or sff ThinkCenter or something.
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Tell me you live on the west coast without telling me you live on the west coast, I’ll go first. Does anyone have experience with air quality sensors? Would kind of like an outdoor sensor and an indoor sensor.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Yeah I'd have to figure you're probably better off spending $200 on a used NUC or sff ThinkCenter or something. You can get them even cheaper than that, too. uSFF machines like the thinkcentre tiny and equivalent dell's and HP's are often $100ish and do very well.
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Wibla posted:You can get them even cheaper than that, too. I was asking about this in the homelab thread. I've been looking at the ThinkCentres, but most of the ones I see for semi-chap ($100-150) all look like they are either 3rd or 4th gen Intels. Is that going to be a "faster" system for running the kind of things that you would on a Pi 4 or is it the kind of thing that you really can't compare?
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diremonk posted:Is that going to be a "faster" system for running the kind of things that you would on a Pi 4 Yes, 100%
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I've got a pi400 as a tertiary computer and it fulfills it's main role of being very compact admirably. It's secondary role of being a computer it skirts by at 'functional' and only because I knew what I was getting into beforehand, if you're actually trying to do things with it a pi will be painful.
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Centrist Committee posted:Tell me you live on the west coast without telling me you live on the west coast, I’ll go first. Does anyone have experience with air quality sensors? Would kind of like an outdoor sensor and an indoor sensor. I bought a $200 purple air unit after doing all the research and weighing "it just works" against "gently caress it, I'll just do it myself". The purple air unit is basically a $5 ESP8266 wired to a $150 air quality sensor, in a clear 3d printed case with a color led We've had it about three months now and setup and install was painless. It lives near the window by the TV and it's easy to go on their website and look at it from my phone and see how fast the air filter is doing it's job (a lot faster than I expected). It also has a local data feed you can scrape for whatever purpose on your LAN. The color led is nice because if it's yellow I know to crank the filter up to medium or high for a while until it turns green again
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Does anyone actually... Like Raspberry Pis? This might be the wrong thread to ask in, but just kinda been disappointed in them for years, continually going back and trying again to see if I'm still disappointed
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I mean, what are your specific objections? They aren't right for every use case...
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Yeah for a few years they got pushed as a swiss army knife of computers, still do to an extend by the RPF. I have my 400 set up as a distraction free machine I can use to write on and it works real nicely for that purpose, likewise I have a Pi 4 set up in the front room as a media center and it works great for that as well.
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I love the pi because it's the cheapest way to run python scripts on battery power. The gpio is awesome too but I'm not an electronics wizard, I pretty much just buy i2c kits so I'd be content if those were the only pins available. Not a fan of the micro hdmi on the 4 either. The 3 was almost perfect, the lack of usb 3 on it sucks.
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The micro HDMI is by far the worst thing about the Pi 4 and I have never seen anyone actually connect it to multiple monitors.
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xzzy posted:I love the pi because it's the cheapest way to run python scripts on battery power. The gpio is awesome too
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I use a Zero W with motionEye for a remote camera and a 2B on a UPS as a home DHCP/DNS server using dnsmasq. Both work great. I also feel like RetroPie works quite well, and depending on what kind of development you're interested in the Pi 4 is a pretty capable sandbox. You definitely want an old PC instead for general productivity/multimedia stuff though, even if you're totally OK with Linux. The 4 is a lot closer but it's still noticeably limited in comparison.
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ante posted:Does anyone actually... Like Raspberry Pis? Yes. As long as you realize that they are not a replacement for a laptop/desktop. They are great unitaskers.
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njsykora posted:The micro HDMI is by far the worst thing about the Pi 4 and I have never seen anyone actually connect it to multiple monitors. One of the rumours about the pi 5 is that it will go back to regular hdmi. For my regular Pi 4 I use an Argon One case - I love the cooling and the fact it changes the hdmi back to regular, and moves all the ports to the rear.
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Yeah I use an Argon case for my TV box Pi, mostly for the remote capabilities but it's such a good case for basically anything.
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I just set up a RPI with a RASCSI hat to emulate SCSI devices for ancient Macs, and it’s a fantastic use case - besides emulating hard drives and CDroms, you can get network connectivity functioning, even on machines that have no expansion capability.
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Baconroll posted:One of the rumours about the pi 5 is that it will go back to regular hdmi. There are rumours about pi 5?
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