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mod sassinator posted:hahaha holy poo poo they are really going to backpedal on this, and that is just SUPER hosed lol cant just give away free poo poo every 2 months forever
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mod sassinator posted:lol didn't the latest data show pfizer vaccine was really only good for 2 months against delta too? 2-4 months against symptomatic infection depending on the source, and then antibodies are completely gone after 5 months at least in America half of the population has a decent chance at avoiding hospitalization with the 2-dose series
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Anachronist posted:Any word on whether it's still all delta there or if there's some sweet new variant popping off? Either scenario is very bad obviously. hard to say, apparently kerala is growing the most right now: https://www.news18.com/news/india/c...ra-4156007.html quote:The alarming surge in Covid-19 cases in Kerala has led health experts to link the increase with possible beginning of the third wave of the pandemic in India, according to reports. numbers are definitely ticking up and the trend of falling cases has reversed:  we'll probably know in a few weeks if it's something new or just delta continuing to infect or reinfect
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mod sassinator posted:go get your boosters folks, when they roll this decision out there will be even more scolding and tut-tutting people getting 'unauthroized' boosters. 
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Iirc Kerala did really well compared to other places during the second wave, maybe it's just delta finally getting the best of them?
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so I mean if the vaccines aren't really preventing infection after 2-4 months, are they just hoping we all get sick in that time frame enough that natural immunity (huge quotey fingers here) kicks in and prevents it from being anything other tha moderate infection in the majority population and the idea is that we can all go back to normal afterward? because that sounds insane but that's the general vibe I'm kind of getting.
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Real Mean Queen posted:It’s wild how you can just watch people show you that they’re not capable of what you’d think of as thought. They don’t even know they’re doing it, people are just casually demonstrating that they’re food tubes with a vestigial person shape on the outside that wouldn’t speak a known human language if somebody hadn’t made them learn one before they were old enough to have freedoms. That guy would have gotten his cock stuck in a an electrical outlet and died by now, if only someone had the foresight to give us bigger outlets that made such a thing possible watching people post in the stupid class dojo thing they use for class communication now was eye opening about how stupid people actually are
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mod sassinator posted:lmfao it's like a school kid that spends the entire quarter procrastinating the big final report and then barfs out garbage in a hurried rush 48 hours before it's due It's going to be a confusing and contradictory mess with multiple agencies backtracking and issuing retractions to statements. Joe's government is really, really not handling this well in a way that should be genuinely very concerning for those who are dependent on a stable and predictable US state. It's one thing to be bad at what you're doing, the dangerous thing for a government to be is indecisive and confused.
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is the CDC et al still spitting out the lie that reinfection is “rare,” or have they silently conceded that yeah no poo poo you can get infected again
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actionjackson posted:can any medical people tell me what you are looking at here, obviously you're not supposed to see any "white" in the lung, but is there anything else you can notice besides that the lungs should be dark. the right lung is diffusely opacified and looks like a premature baby’s lung. really bad. odds of that lung gaining normal function probably zero. the left lung looks all patchy and trash as well.
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Gio posted:is the CDC et al still spitting out the lie that reinfection is “rare,” or have they silently conceded that yeah no poo poo you can get infected again They can probably thread the needle on that since 'rare' medically is different than 'rare' as far as normal people understand it, and only very pedantic dweebs pay attention to the CDC's guidance on that granular of a level.
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Buck Wildman posted:I'm at the DMV
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:so I mean if the vaccines aren't really preventing infection after 2-4 months, are they just hoping we all get sick in that time frame enough that natural immunity (huge quotey fingers here) kicks in and prevents it from being anything other tha moderate infection in the majority population and the idea is that we can all go back to normal afterward? because that sounds insane but that's the general vibe I'm kind of getting. there is no plan.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:so I mean if the vaccines aren't really preventing infection after 2-4 months, are they just hoping we all get sick in that time frame enough that natural immunity (huge quotey fingers here) kicks in and prevents it from being anything other tha moderate infection in the majority population and the idea is that we can all go back to normal afterward? because that sounds insane but that's the general vibe I'm kind of getting. Is there any evidence at all to support the idea that getting COVID a 2nd or 3rd or 4th time is less severe?
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Gio posted:is the CDC et al still spitting out the lie that reinfection is “rare,” or have they silently conceded that yeah no poo poo you can get infected again I’m not sure about the CDC, but it seems to be at that weird folklore tipping point between “you can’t just use an anecdote about how you’ve personally gotten reinfected and scare people with it” and “nobody ever said you couldn’t get reinfected, don’t you follow the science?” in the last few weeks. Everybody seems to know somebody who got it twice, but it isn’t like official information that you’re allowed to know about or repeat yet unless you want to get yelled at
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Even getting "just the flu bro" every 2-4 months forever would suuuck.
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Foo Diddley posted:https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1433800125508358146 I have no idea who this idiot is, but things are so upside down that I wasn't sure if he was saying that 37% masking outside is ridiculous because it is too low, or too high. from the comments it seems like he's chud so I guess he thinks that it is too high. At my house we are 100% masking outside no matter what. Even in our own backyard. Our neighbor had a breakthrough case, (got tested prior to a trip and they caught it that he was positive) and ever since then we've made us and the kids mask outside, cause close encounters happen more frequently than you think!
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:so I mean if the vaccines aren't really preventing infection after 2-4 months, are they just hoping we all get sick in that time frame enough that natural immunity (huge quotey fingers here) kicks in and prevents it from being anything other tha moderate infection in the majority population and the idea is that we can all go back to normal afterward? because that sounds insane but that's the general vibe I'm kind of getting. T-cell immunity still exists even after the antibodies wane - but it takes a week or two to spin up and stomp out Delta, so that's why so many people are getting sick (and in some cases hospitalized) My own theory is that T-cell memory is why the 2-dose series neutralized Wild Type and Beta so well - even after studies now show that 2 doses of Pfizer didn't provide dick as far as antibodies, the asymptomatic period for both Wild Type and Beta was long enough (~10 days) for T-cell memory to spin up and prevent symptoms Delta's asymptomatic period is much shorter (~3 days) and T-cell memory doesn't have time to kick in and prevent symptoms
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100 degrees Calcium posted:wait does my respirator not "protect others" the same way a cloth mask does? it protects others way more than a cloth mask both prevent droplet spread, neither prevent aerosol spread plus you cant get covid if you're in a respirator so you're not gonna get sick and spread it
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Real Mean Queen posted:I’m not sure about the CDC, but it seems to be at that weird folklore tipping point between “you can’t just use an anecdote about how you’ve personally gotten reinfected and scare people with it” and “nobody ever said you couldn’t get reinfected, don’t you follow the science?” in the last few weeks. Everybody seems to know somebody who got it twice, but it isn’t like official information that you’re allowed to know about or repeat yet unless you want to get yelled at It happened to the starting QB of the Baltimore Ravens. Who still believes that you can't get it twice?
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Zurtilik posted:What's even the point of the disclaimer? plausible deniability
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[in extreme after taking horse paste voice]100 degrees Calcium posted:let the bodies poo poo the floor
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100 degrees Calcium posted:wait does my respirator not "protect others" the same way a cloth mask does? there's at least one study that shows the exhale valve as being as effective as a cloth mask you can also wear a mask over the exhale valve if you want, or do what I did and pop the exhale valve cover off and put a patch of cloth inside (doesn't seem to have affected my breathing any)
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:so I mean if the vaccines aren't really preventing infection after 2-4 months, are they just hoping we all get sick in that time frame enough that natural immunity (huge quotey fingers here) kicks in and prevents it from being anything other tha moderate infection in the majority population and the idea is that we can all go back to normal afterward? because that sounds insane but that's the general vibe I'm kind of getting. They are going to let it cull all it can and give the rest brain damage and poo poo through constant reinfection. Whatever personal measures one takes is just delaying the inevitable. It's monstrous.
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Often Abbreviated posted:"next week" is my favourite part of this. I know the announcement is gonna be "no boosters and OPEN HARDER" but Joe being too tired to do it today is Well they can't do it today because if it was any amount of restrictions - or even the suggestion of a more locked down behavior pattern for the american people, it would RUIN labor day weekend.
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SplitSoul posted:They are going to let it cull all it can and give the rest brain damage and poo poo through constant reinfection. Whatever personal measures one takes is just delaying the inevitable. It's monstrous. 
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100 degrees Calcium posted:wait does my respirator not "protect others" the same way a cloth mask does? Well, maybe, I haven’t seen anything hugely convincing one way or the other. The CDC, in their wisdom, will tell you both that exhalation valves are to be avoided at all costs, and that they filter as well or better than surgicals, depending on what page on their website you’re looking at. The position I’ve landed on at this point is that, in almost every situation, I don’t care. Any time I’m wearing my elastomeric, there’s some jackass within eyeshot not wearing anything at all, and nobody is ever giving that guy any poo poo about his unfiltered exhaust. If the rule is that there aren’t any rules, and make no mistake that is exactly what the rule is, I’ll take my excellent protection and encourage anyone who wants to complain about it to also get some real protection. I’m not going to wear shittier gear so that somebody else can also wear shittier gear, that doesn’t make any sense. If you’re super worried about it you can tie another mask around your mask, I do that if I’m going into somewhere that I consider to be sanctified ground like a vaccination site. If it’s just at the 7-11 or walking down the street, gently caress you, gear up or shut up. Substandard posted:It happened to the starting QB of the Baltimore Ravens. Who still believes that you can't get it twice? I’ve just seen a bunch of libs on reddit being very precious about The Science on that one and saying it’s very rare or that there’s not enough data, which is the default reaction to information they don’t like and haven’t yet been forced to acknowledge definitively. It will be 100% “everyone always knew you can get reinfected” very soon Real Mean Queen fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Do we have a guide to buying a respirator that anyone could link me? I have N95s but am not satisfied with the fit on them and I would like a half-face one or whatever.
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