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Depends on your budget. If you just want to shoot some slow animal and scenery you probably want to invest more money on a good wide lens than a good tele lens. Different people's tolerance on heavy quality lens is also very different. Without knowing your budget, all I can recommend is spend 60-70% of your budget on lens and the rest on body.
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The a6100 has the new autofocus, but the Sony kit lens sucks. They do make good lenses and there are lots of third party offerings, but as a kit I wouldn't be happy with it. The Fuji kit choices are much better, shoot really good jpegs, and they offer a good selection of weather sealed primes, but they've discontinued their cheapest bodies I think. Canons apsc mirrorless isn't as well supported but they have a 22mm fast compact prime and a ultra wide zoom which would be a good travel kit. Another m43 choice could be an Olympus em5 ii and 12-40mm f2.8 would, probably about $1000 used for a rugged camera and lens.
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I really love my XT-20. It's just enough camera for me. I don't know if it'd qualify it as compact, but I hook it up the front of my backpack strap while hiking and it's fairly comfortable.
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I managed to get that Tamron 180mm at $150 which is absolutely brilliant for the price.  _DSC8305 by Kaleem Rorke, on FlickrOf course, it hasn't changed my ability as a photographer:  _DSC8292 by Kaleem Rorke, on Flickr... gently caress.
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okay beauty thanks all, I'll look at what the local stores have and just get one of the ones you guys recommended. Thanks!
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sildargod posted:I managed to get that Tamron 180mm at $150 which is absolutely brilliant for the price. That first image is great! For shots like the second one, try focus bracketing; set focus to manual and do a burst while moving the focus ring in and out around where you think your subject will be.
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Ethics_Gradient posted:For shots like the second one, try focus bracketing; set focus to manual and do a burst while moving the focus ring in and out around where you think your subject will bee.
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How the hell are you going to focus stack a flying bee?
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jarlywarly posted:How the hell are you going to focus stack a flying bee? very carefully
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8th-snype posted:very
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seravid posted:I'm jealous. Was planning on purchasing it this year, but looks like it'll have to wait until 2022. Post some pics when you get a chance! I know this was a few pages ago, but I just posted my first few pics in the GBS Critterquest thread - all taken on an A7ii with the Sony 200-600 and all at 600mm f6.3. We've been locked down for a while now, so this is the first chance I've had to get out and about with it, and it seems like it was 100% worth the cost of admission ($2,000 AUD).
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Dia de Pikachutos posted:I know this was a few pages ago, but I just posted my first few pics in the GBS Critterquest thread - all taken on an A7ii with the Sony 200-600 and all at 600mm f6.3. Goddamnit I want a 200-600 so much. Great shots!
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Looks like Cosina Voigtlander is coming out with a 35mm f/1.2 APSC lens for X-Mount. CV lenses are usually pretty sharp, and the fast, manual focus, specialty APSC lens market has gotten popular but mostly remained the domain of pretty cheap and low quality stuff from the likes of Kamlan and 7artisans, so it’s cool to see them stepping in to offer something that might actually have good max aperture IQ. Two questions: Did Laowa beat CV to the punch with their 33mm f/0.95? I haven’t seen any in-depth reviews of the Argus, but it’s definitely in the same price and spec range as the CV. Anyone here know if it’s worth the ~$500? One thing that I wish Fuji would hurry up and make is a fast ~40mm equivalent lens. Now that they’ve come out with an 18mm f/1.4, it gives me a little hope that they might follow suit with a faster 27mm some day. But in the meantime Voigtlander makes easily adaptable 28mm f/2 and f/1.9 lenses for M-mount. Does anyone know how well they work when mounted on a Fuji? I know that symmetrical extreme wide angle lenses like the original CV 15mm have rear elements that protrude so far back that they exhibit bad color fringing in the corners on digital sensors. Are the CV 28mm lenses like that, or do they work ok?
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Voigtlander does make good (I mean in the technical sense not in the artistic/character/look sense) lenses, like their apo-lanthar lenses, but their fast manual primes have been pretty weak, especially at the maximum aperture. Google turns up a review that says the 7artisans f0.95 is sharper than the voigtlander wide open. I couldn't find a good review with a clear comparison between the loawa and the 7artisans, but some people said one or the other was sharper, but the loawa is probably better corrected. I probably just gravitate toward whatever one I liked the rendering of better (or build quality or price), and not worry about sharpness across the frame/color fringing/vignetting/etc if this was the type of lens I was shopping for. Also the voigtlander apo-lanthars are so nice and I would buy them if I was the monopoly guy.
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Yeah I went looking and the 7artisans 0.95 was actually rated as sharper than the Argus in one review that had images to back it up. The Argus had nicer focus roll off. I didn’t realize any reviews of the Nokton were out but the Japanese one I just looked at actually showed a pretty sharp performance wide open from the sample images. Did a little digging and it looks like the 28mm Voigtlanders are not great when adapted to Fuji. Guess I’ll keep putting away my pennies and looking out for a good deal on a used Fuji 23/1.4. Probably as close as I can get to what I want.
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SMERSH Mouth posted:Yeah I went looking and the 7artisans 0.95 was actually rated as sharper than the Argus in one review that had images to back it up. The Argus had nicer focus roll off. Have you looked at the Viltrox 23/1.4? Reviews seem to be quite positive, and it’s AF capable.
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Fools Infinite posted:Voigtlander does make good (I mean in the technical sense not in the artistic/character/look sense) lenses, like their apo-lanthar lenses, but their fast manual primes have been pretty weak, especially at the maximum aperture. Google turns up a review that says the 7artisans f0.95 is sharper than the voigtlander wide open. I couldn't find a good review with a clear comparison between the loawa and the 7artisans, but some people said one or the other was sharper, but the loawa is probably better corrected. If we're thinking of the same lens I found a few reviews comparing the Laowa and 7artisans 0.95, most gave the edge to the latter (cheaper, better build quality, IQ roughly the same or maybe even slightly better on the 7artisans, can't remember exactly). I'm sort of tempted, I've got a Canon 50 1.2 LTM already, but it's a bit of a dog wide open.
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Christopher frost posted a review of the Venus 33mm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuYJTdTk29s And has previously covered the 7artisans 35mm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-zs6qbOW6I His copies/review/experience seem to show the Venus is sharper and better corrected. I think the rendering on the Venus looks better, but the 7artisans doesn't seem like a bad lens for half the price, and a lot of the flaws add to that vintage look.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Have you looked at the Viltrox 23/1.4? Reviews seem to be quite positive, and it’s AF capable. Been using the Viltrox 23 since about November last year, and I think it's okay. Good value considering it's so cheap, but you could probably pick up a Fuji 23/1.4 used for not that much more. After about a month of use the glue holding the focus ring to the lens failed, but I got the entire lens replaced under warranty. No similar issues with the new one. AF works well, 35mm equivalent is a great focal length, and it's reasonably sharp considering the price. For reference, I had the 16-80/4 but sold it since I didn't like the slow aperture or performance wide open. I also got the Viltrox 85/1.8 and wide open it's miles ahead. I really like that one. e: This on an X-T4.
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OG A7Rs are cheap now. Tempting to get a nice small higher-res, high DR camera for landscape shooting, but does shutter shock ruin it? I know it was a common complaint when it came out. Was there ever any consensus on a workaround for it (I seem to remember reading that even sticking it on a tripod didn’t really help), a firmware update with EFCS, or anything?
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SMERSH Mouth posted:OG A7Rs are cheap now. Tempting to get a nice small higher-res, high DR camera for landscape shooting, but does shutter shock ruin it? I know it was a common complaint when it came out. My clanky, beat up A7r is my most used camera. It's glorious in it's stupid tedious slowness, unintiutive choices and breathtaking sensor. The shutter shock is very much real, and cannot be avoided, aside from using an unbelievably heavy or stiff tripod, or shooting far out of the affected shutter range (anything from about 1/125 to 1/30), or, using a flash. I've had very, very good results with it even in shutter shock country and if you pair it with any average to decent glass, it's spectacular.  _DSC7022 by Kaleem Rorke, on FlickrAs an example of the resolution and sharpness, this shot of my pittie was taken with the 85/1.8:  _DSC7856 by Kaleem Rorke, on Flickr _DSC7856_1 by Kaleem Rorke, on FlickrIt really does feel medium-format in the amount of resolving power the little camera has.
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I am extremely excited for the Fuji 33mm F1.4 LM WR R coming out this month. To me this is sort of an end-game lens. I love shooting in rain, snow and other weather, and I travel to places where dust and smog is a concern. Having weather sealing and fast quiet focusing is going to be the thing that gets me to jump in when the 35mm F1.4 could not entice me enough. Anyone else looking at this or other lenses coming in 2021?
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sildargod posted:My clanky, beat up A7r is my most used camera. It's glorious in it's stupid tedious slowness, unintiutive choices and breathtaking sensor. The shutter shock is very much real, and cannot be avoided, aside from using an unbelievably heavy or stiff tripod, or shooting far out of the affected shutter range (anything from about 1/125 to 1/30), or, using a flash. I've had very, very good results with it even in shutter shock country and if you pair it with any average to decent glass, it's spectacular. Yeah, I love the sensor on my d810 but the focus is so shoddy (the 150K shutter count might have something to do with it) and the whole package so bulky. It does feel like medium format detail level, especially when compared to the scan quality I usually get for my 67’s negatives. And the dynamic range is even better. I could get the A7r experience by simply using live view but that makes the whole bulky DSLR-ness feel superfluous. Shammypants posted:I am extremely excited for the Fuji 33mm F1.4 LM WR R coming out this month. To me this is sort of an end-game lens. I love shooting in rain, snow and other weather, and I travel to places where dust and smog is a concern. Having weather sealing and fast quiet focusing is going to be the thing that gets me to jump in when the 35mm F1.4 could not entice me enough. Anyone else looking at this or other lenses coming in 2021? I watched the DPR video on the 33/1.4 WR and it looks like a great lens, but not so great that it would replace my trusty 35/2 WR. I await the verdict on the 23/1.4 WR, because I want a prime in that focal length and at the very least hope that the new version will drive down prices on the original 23/1.4. I could get a new Fuji lens, or pick up a used A7r. As much as I use and enjoy my X-T30 for family, wildlife, and general picture-takin’, I feel the lack of detail when printing landscape shots. 20x30” is pushing it. Do I spring for the A7r (and a lens oh god the $$$) or just keep adding to the Fuji lens collection and have faith in the 42MP sensor coming next year?
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SMERSH Mouth posted:Yeah, I love the sensor on my d810 but the focus is so shoddy (the 150K shutter count might have something to do with it) and the whole package so bulky. It does feel like medium format detail level, especially when compared to the scan quality I usually get for my 67’s negatives. And the dynamic range is even better. I'd probably stick with Fuji rather than invest in an entirely new lens ecosystem (I say this as someone currently standing athwart both of those systems...). For your landscape shots, you could try getting a Nodal Ninja or similar panorama head and stitching - a goon pro photographer I know did this to great effect with his Olympus and a 25mm prime. He was selling big (1m+) prints to dentists, doctors, etc for their waiting rooms. OTOH you can get some cheap glass for the Sony if you're willing to go manual focus; most of those cheap 50mm f/1.8 primes from any major system are going to be tack sharp at f/8.
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Buy a gfx
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SMERSH Mouth posted:I watched the DPR video on the 33/1.4 WR and it looks like a great lens, but not so great that it would replace my trusty 35/2 WR. I await the verdict on the 23/1.4 WR, because I want a prime in that focal length and at the very least hope that the new version will drive down prices on the original 23/1.4. I get you. For me, the three things I love about photography are inclement weather (rain etc.), lower light and black and white. It's almost like the lens was made specifically for me.
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I hope they do a 16 or 18mm in the same design, 28 is my favorite focal length.
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New GR iiix announced, has a 40mm equiv lens instead of the usual 28. I'm definitely interested as I've never been a huge fan of lenses that are quite that wide.
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I loved the gr iii but not fixing the dust issue and adding ibis making it even harder to service was a really lovely thing to do. A new lens probably means changes to the internal design but as they are but touting it as a new feature I doubt they've done anything to address the problem.
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Yikes I'm glad I got my used EM5 III in July, prices seem to be ~$80 more now than they were then. You're only saving about $40 off new at this point.
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CodfishCartographer posted:New GR iiix announced, has a 40mm equiv lens instead of the usual 28. I'm definitely interested as I've never been a huge fan of lenses that are quite that wide. Dumb question, but that's the full-frame equivalent? I'm sort of curious to own something like that despite being married to the Fuji system (heck my Capture One sub is also Fuji-only).
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Yeah, it’s actually a 26mm lens.
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I wish they'd make the GR like an inch taller and slap a viewfinder on it and maybe a bigger battery. I love 28mm for sky pictures and tight spaces but I can see the appeal of 40mm.Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:Yikes I'm glad I got my used EM5 III in July, prices seem to be ~$80 more now than they were then. You're only saving about $40 off new at this point.
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qirex posted:I wish they'd make the GR like an inch taller and slap a viewfinder on it and maybe a bigger battery. I love 28mm for sky pictures and tight spaces but I can see the appeal of 40mm. I got a "used" like-new(49 shutter activations) one in July to replace my broken EM10 mk.I for $850. Same site is now selling like-new for $925.
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qirex posted:I hope they do a 16 or 18mm in the same design, 28 is my favorite focal length. Maybe the news slipped past you or maybe I’m misreading your post, but Fuji just released an 18/1.4 WR and it’s their sharpest prime under 90mm. Also the 26mm GRiii sounds really cool. ~40mm equiv. focal length is my favorite and the pocket-size of the GR has always been attractive. I’d probably just get a 27/2.8 pancake lens for my Fuji, though. I went to the local shop and played with a used A7R and A7Rii. The ii was only about $200 more, definitely felt better-built, and the shutter was noticeably smoother, quieter, and had less of a clunk. But are they known for having focusing issues, especially as they get worn out? The A7R was spitting out tack-sharp in-focus pics while I could never really get the Rii to give me a good in-focus shot with the same lens. (The lens was a Samyang AF 35/2.8… super cheap but the used/adapted/3rd-party world of E-mount lenses is pretty enticing overall).
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Did the ii get phase detect? Maybe the third party firmware/hardware couldn’t handle that.
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It appears my Oly EM5 kit walked out of a hotel and I will need to replace it. My main uses are backpacking and travel and I mainly shoot macro, landscape, and some photos of my wife and doggo. I prefer minimal post processing. I think I’ve narrowed my choices down to another Oly, X-T3, or X-T4 - is there anything else I should consider?
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Ropes4u posted:It appears my Oly EM5 kit walked out of a hotel and I will need to replace it. My main uses are backpacking and travel and I mainly shoot macro, landscape, and some photos of my wife and doggo. I prefer minimal post processing. Unless you're shooting video an X-T2 will do pretty much everything the X-T3 does. Assuming you can find one, it could be a way of saving some money if you decide an X-T4 is more than you need.
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Unless you're shooting video an X-T2 will do pretty much everything the X-T3 does. Assuming you can find one, it could be a way of saving some money if you decide an X-T4 is more than you need. Outside of a GoPro when scuba diving or mountain biking I don’t shoot video. I didn’t see anything the 4 offered over the 3, did I miss anything?
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The banner feature on the X-T4 is stabilization, the rest of the meaningful improvements over the 3 are for video.
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