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lol. wherever could we find someone who reads chinese. those people are just too rare
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Sep 6, 2021 06:17
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didn’t part of the reason we ate poo poo in Vietnam was bc McCarthyism purged all our Asia experts for communist sympathies for saying things like “the KMT seem like gently caress ups” or “Ho Chi Minh is kicking france’s rear end” I wonder if the FBI/CIA cracking down on Chinese american scientists had an impact on them not having anyone who can read Chinese and know science
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Sep 6, 2021 06:47
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it’s funny that the richest and most powerful country in the world has serious difficulty finding people who speak the second most widely spoken language
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Sep 6, 2021 07:25
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CIAishly: No one here can read Chinese. What can you do?
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Sep 6, 2021 07:37
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i wonder how much trouble china has being able to find spies that speak english. lol.
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Sep 6, 2021 07:38
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Is Adrian Zenz booked?
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Sep 6, 2021 07:40
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https://www.wondrium.com/the-fall-and-rise-of-china?KZits=&Video=&bvstate=pg%3A2%2Fct%3Ar&plus=y Get a free trail
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Sep 6, 2021 07:41
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stephenthinkpad posted:https://www.wondrium.com/the-fall-and-rise-of-china?KZits=&Video=&bvstate=pg%3A2%2Fct%3Ar&plus=y The emptyquote was to make fun of him.
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Sep 6, 2021 07:42
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I'm honestly curious. Why does China feel the need to crack down on feminine males/foreign celebrities? The video game/fandom thing seems like a convenient way to boss TenCent and/or TV people around, who cares, but trying to police pop culture seems strange. Is there some sort dominant culturally conservative strain in the CCP or is it something else?
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Sep 6, 2021 08:18
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Scionix posted:I'm honestly curious. Why does China feel the need to crack down on feminine males/foreign celebrities? The video game/fandom thing seems like a convenient way to boss TenCent and/or TV people around, who cares, but trying to police pop culture seems strange. Is there some sort dominant culturally conservative strain in the CCP or is it something else? I am pretty sure the foreign citizenship Chinese actor part is fake news. No comment of the feminine part cause the news seem to be confusing.
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Sep 6, 2021 08:42
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Germany’s ambassador to China Jan Hecker dies suddenly days after taking office. Jan Hecker had been appointed by Merkel to ensure a continuation of her policy of engagement. German elections are only three weeks away so the position likely will be empty until the new government is formed.
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Sep 6, 2021 08:54
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https://twitter.com/traceyfanclub/status/946112415380398081?s=20
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Sep 6, 2021 09:06
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OhFunny posted:Germany’s ambassador to China Jan Hecker dies suddenly days after taking office. another victim of havana syndrome
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Sep 6, 2021 09:07
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Scionix posted:I'm honestly curious. Why does China feel the need to crack down on feminine males/foreign celebrities? The video game/fandom thing seems like a convenient way to boss TenCent and/or TV people around, who cares, but trying to police pop culture seems strange. Is there some sort dominant culturally conservative strain in the CCP or is it something else? it's probably a bit of "the olds don't like youth culture" and a bit of this https://twitter.com/ItsMaoCena/status/1433813548573077504?s=20 https://twitter.com/moghilemear13/status/1433563383731736577?s=20 there's more in the twitter threads
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Sep 6, 2021 09:10
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Scionix posted:I'm honestly curious. Why does China feel the need to crack down on feminine males/foreign celebrities? The video game/fandom thing seems like a convenient way to boss TenCent and/or TV people around, who cares, but trying to police pop culture seems strange. Is there some sort dominant culturally conservative strain in the CCP or is it something else?   
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Sep 6, 2021 09:14
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crepeface posted:it's probably a bit of "the olds don't like youth culture" and a bit of this I'm still snickering at the CIA going: We can't read Chinese at that level, sorry. Now let us tell you what the dastardly Chinese are up to.
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Sep 6, 2021 09:14
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Sep 6, 2021 09:15
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whose side will you be on the in the MONSTA X vs CCP wars of 2025, AMERICA??!? Ty for the info, trying to parse that stuff as an American feels boderline impossible. I'd be interested to know how much the average chinese person gives a poo poo about the fandom/soft culture stuff, vs American media gawking at it. The business/IP reporting stuff is much easier to roll your eyes at, because it's pretty much always some dude named Chet in a suit complaining that his portfolio is going to lose money because Chinese GrubHub is going to tank now. The humanity.
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Sep 6, 2021 09:25
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Sep 6, 2021 09:39
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fart simpson posted:it’s funny that the richest and most powerful country in the world has serious difficulty finding people who speak the second most widely spoken language I know the point here is lol 'murica and all, but realistically the combination of fluent Chinese + medical background that lets them meaningfully understand poo poo + US security clearance, in numbers enough to sift through what's probably a large amount of messy data, for something that's likely a relative longshot or wouldn't be that functionally useful (because unless they found rock-solid evidence it's not gonna be worth much) is probably the issue. Probably just not worth the resources or difficulty of specifically throwing a ton of money at Chinese-American doctors et al and doing security clearances for them.
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Sep 6, 2021 10:10
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LimburgLimbo posted:I know the point here is lol 'murica and all, but realistically the combination of fluent Chinese + medical background that lets them meaningfully understand poo poo + US security clearance, in numbers enough to sift through what's probably a large amount of messy data, for something that's likely a relative longshot or wouldn't be that functionally useful (because unless they found rock-solid evidence it's not gonna be worth much) is probably the issue. Probably just not worth the resources or difficulty of specifically throwing a ton of money at Chinese-American doctors et al and doing security clearances for them. I mean sure on one hand. But on the other, every natsec ghoul has been convinced that China is the next big threat to US hegemony for more than twenty years. And they still can't read the language. How many people could you have trained in Mandarin for the price of one Zumwalt?
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Sep 6, 2021 10:14
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quote:A senior administration official told me that the intelligence community’s work continues and that “U.S. government technical experts” have asked their Chinese counterparts for several categories of information, including data, virus samples and genetic sequence information from the earliest cases; samples taken from food markets in Wuhan; and information about the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and illnesses of researchers there in late 2019. The summary itself says the intelligence community will be “unable to provide a more definitive explanation” unless more information comes to light, essentially conceding defeat. the interesting thing about this paragraph is that it raises the question of why were US intelligence assets monitoring hospitals in Wuhan BEFORE the outbreak of COVID-19, such that they knew that researchers there were sick in late 2019?
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Sep 6, 2021 10:21
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Scionix posted:whose side will you be on the in the MONSTA X vs CCP wars of 2025, AMERICA??!? yeah, it's extremely difficult. the language and cultural barrier aside, china is such a huge place with so many people it's pretty easy to find a "big" contingent of the country that supports a particular position that you could erroneously extrapolate to the entire country. at this point, the easiest thing is just to believe the opposite of whatever mainstream media says until there's evidence or there's a more nuanced take.
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Sep 6, 2021 10:30
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gradenko_2000 posted:the interesting thing about this paragraph is that it raises the question of why were US intelligence assets monitoring hospitals in Wuhan BEFORE the outbreak of COVID-19, such that they knew that researchers there were sick in late 2019? *banging cutlery on dinner table* fort detrick fort detrick! FORT DETRICK! for real tho, i think the paragraph is talking in the past tense, as in "the illnesses of the researchers who were in wuhan in late 2019."
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Sep 6, 2021 10:37
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US intelligence might have been interested in Wuhan to keep tabs on a known virology institute and/or in relation to a gathering of troops. The other theory with similar levels of evidence is that the Military World Games was a spreader event, perhaps even intentional by US actors. I forget if it was corroborated in Italian sewage samples that COVID-19 was present in September, and there are US military bases in Italy (but US bases are in too many countries to count).quote:During the COVID-19 pandemic, conspiracy theories emerged in China that the virus originated in the United States and was brought to China by an American participant in the Military World Games. One version of the conspiracy theory states that the virus was created by the CIA. A Chinese government official supported and help spread one of the conspiracy theories. Athletes Élodie Clouvel and Matteo Tagliariol were often quoted as claiming they developed a severe illness around the time they attended the games. A U.S. Army athlete who attended the games was accused of being "patient zero" of the novel coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, and was harassed on social media, despite never having symptoms or testing positive. A coronavirus public health exercise in the United States called Event 201 was held at the same time as the games, and this is sometimes cited by conspiracy theorists as further evidence of misconduct. quote:Event 201 simulated the effects of a fictional coronavirus originating in bats but passing to humans via pigs. Claims that Event 201 was a rehearsal for the world's response to COVID-19 have been declared invalid by fact-checking outlets such as USA Today and FullFact. The fact checkers have spoken.
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Sep 6, 2021 10:39
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LimburgLimbo posted:I know the point here is lol 'murica and all, but realistically the combination of fluent Chinese + medical background that lets them meaningfully understand poo poo + US security clearance, in numbers enough to sift through what's probably a large amount of messy data, for something that's likely a relative longshot or wouldn't be that functionally useful (because unless they found rock-solid evidence it's not gonna be worth much) is probably the issue. Probably just not worth the resources or difficulty of specifically throwing a ton of money at Chinese-American doctors et al and doing security clearances for them. im pretty sure the us government can afford to keep or train up a bunch of people fluent in the language of the #1 geopolitical rival. you’re right in the sense that they obviously don’t see it as worth the resources but it’s funny that they don’t considering how microscopically tiny those resources would be on the scale of the us federal budget
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Sep 6, 2021 10:46
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1433172931308400648?t=nJl8spG6gWRdKttI3pwXFA&s=19 India probes late Kashmir separatist’s family under terror law Police have opened a case under India's harsh anti-terrorism Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act law for allegedly raising anti-India slogans and wrapping his body in the Pakistani flag. As the article notes of the UAPA. quote:The anti-terror law was amended in 2019 to allow the government to designate an individual as a terrorist. Police can detain a person for six months without producing any evidence, and the accused can subsequently be imprisoned for up to seven yeanti-terrorism. Police units grabbed the body and buried it under guard. Public movement and a near-total communications blackout were imposed on Kashmir. Some of these were lifted Sunday, but blackout of internet and and ban of free assembly remain so far.
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Sep 6, 2021 10:54
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fart simpson posted:im pretty sure the us government can afford to keep or train up a bunch of people fluent in the language of the #1 geopolitical rival. you’re right in the sense that they obviously don’t see it as worth the resources but it’s funny that they don’t considering how microscopically tiny those resources would be on the scale of the us federal budget One Chen Weihua has better grasp in English than all of the US govt in Chinese
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Sep 6, 2021 12:05
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this is also what i'm talking about  like... that's kinda creepy. i believe he's a korean idol. anyhow, i was a reading some comments about this on guancha, which has some pretty nationalist commenters. and i noticed that some comments were along the lines that you'd expect from nationalists: the west is trying to sissify chinese men so they can weaken us from within and blah blah blah. more alarming, there were some comments about LGBT culture being a western import. this doesn't seem like "LGBT" to me though. i think this is something else, like elements of western pop culture that were imported and combined with really, really old confucian stuff in which entertainers play a "submissive" role to feudal nobility, and also, therefore in this situation, transferred to the west as like a master. but i think for the nationalists in the guancha comments section, they are similar to nationalists in other countries (read adorno) in that it's difficult, psychologically, to criticize the "ingroup," so they'll be reluctant to recognize that their own culture and society produced this, in part
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Sep 6, 2021 12:15
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OhFunny posted:Germany’s ambassador to China Jan Hecker dies suddenly days after taking office. now that's a twist.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:22
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fart simpson posted:i wonder how much trouble china has being able to find spies that speak english. lol. with the way people post, who needs spies 
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Sep 6, 2021 14:46
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crepeface posted:it's probably a bit of "the olds don't like youth culture" and a bit of this This just presages the forthcoming policy of promoting tomboyism with socialist characteristics
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Sep 6, 2021 14:53
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 this is one of the richest neighborhoods in the Philippines
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Sep 6, 2021 15:03
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fart simpson posted:i wonder how much trouble china has being able to find spies that speak english. lol. Sending my CV rn
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Sep 6, 2021 15:46
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genericnick posted:Sending my CV rn get in line
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Sep 6, 2021 16:27
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im happy to learn mandarin on the government dime, please send me money CIA
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Sep 6, 2021 16:39
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mila kunis posted:im happy to learn mandarin on the government dime, please send me money CIA there are easier ways to have the cia send you money my friend
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Sep 6, 2021 16:41
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collecting a double salary of cia dollars and xi bucks
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Sep 6, 2021 16:43
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Dms are open xi, I’ll tell you whatever you want to know
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Sep 6, 2021 16:56
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Corky Romanovsky posted:The fact checkers have spoken. love to get facts from an organization best known for its recurring segment in the international hit podcast, Uh Yeah Dude, USA Today Snapshots
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