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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Count Roland posted:

loving lol. Credit to the BBC for having a service in a language I hadn't heard of until a few months ago.

tbf it’s the 3rd largest language in sub-Saharan Africa, with 40 million speakers. I think Somali has 10 million less and there’s been a bbc Somali so long that most Somalis wouldn’t know it’s British.

PawParole fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Aug 15, 2021

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

It’s Abiys birthday today, so the TPLF decided to celebrate by taking another city. They spent 2 weeks brutally besieging
Woldiya, and there’s a massive swarm of Amhara refugees flowing south.


https://mobile.twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1426921452939485190

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ethiopias-war-in-tigray-sees-minorities-targeted-across-the-country-11628687936

The Ethiopian Goverment is rounding up Tigrayans from across Ethiopia and detaining them in camps in the Danakil desert.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

OLA captured the entire guji zone recently and has most of borana. Negelle Borana may fall soon.
Almost all of southern and western Oromia is under OLA now, and they’ve captured the Moyale checkpoint with Kenya.

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWjNbvDvuw

Well, how novel, a President that accept he lost.

I was going to type "African President", then I remembered what Trump did.

"Zambia, better at accepting political realities than the USA".

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

How are we feeling about prospects for Zambia under Hichilema? No reason for optimism right?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekuZelalem/status/1427648483100659718

Maps

Tigray war

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1ukq3h-fUshA0a0ZDcSI22WHbfC6PnKtX&hl=en&ll=6.8734922252258235%2C38.142894043029045&z=6

https://mobile.twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1427707553832742923

Oromia war

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1lcYYe0xWn59CE_iC2xQOIDOvKdQW0UKT&ll=8.66135635030866%2C38.946367668236036&z=7

https://mobile.twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1427684222152683526

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Jesus loving christ

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
The ENDF recaptured Gashena today (a major town on the main east-west road across central Amhara, just south of Lalibela) which would be the first city the ENDF has recaptured since running out of Tigray with their tails between their legs two months ago.

https://twitter.com/qomche/status/1428714856686014470?s=21

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Saladman posted:

The ENDF recaptured Gashena today (a major town on the main east-west road across central Amhara, just south of Lalibela) which would be the first city the ENDF has recaptured since running out of Tigray with their tails between their legs two months ago.

https://twitter.com/qomche/status/1428714856686014470?s=21

The TDF controls the suburbs and roads. It’s not their doctrine to engage in urban conflict.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

PawParole posted:

The TDF controls the suburbs and roads. It’s not their doctrine to engage in urban conflict.

Gashena is sitting on a major road that TPLF needs to control; if they give up Gashena then they give up the road, which seems to be the case as their salient towards Debre Tabor appears to have collapsed. There's no way forward that way without controlling Gashena; there are no roads crossing the Tekeze in that area, and it is insanely hilly with an incredible number of different ravines, and getting things through by donkey track would take forever.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

So what if anything is the African Union doing about the war in Ethiopia?

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

Count Roland posted:

So what if anything is the African Union doing about the war in Ethiopia?

Absolutely nothing. The AU is headquartered in Addis Ababa so the Ethiopian government has a fair bit of influence, and Ethiopia is vehemently rejecting what few statements the AU made on the conflict with "it's an internal police matter".

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


https://twitter.com/breaking_bre/status/1430908292100882437

The government is blaming the OLA, who are claiming that they did it in self defense.

https://olacommunique.com/2021/08/25/press-release-regarding-the-situation-in-east-walaga/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

NAMA and other Amhara nationalists are claiming Abiy plotted it or allowed it to go through.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/addisstandard/status/1432673815650254852

Gniwu
Dec 18, 2002

That sounds like chucking your future into the oven to keep yourself warm for just a little while longer, without ultimately changing your fate. They must be really desperate.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
Nothing new has been reported on Ethiopia Twitter Map (or elsewhere) in the past week, since the ENDF recaptured Gashena and the TNDF salient to the west collapsed. Who knows what's happening though. There are some recent photos of a church near Debre Zebit, recently recovered by the ENDF, as being badly damaged ( Checheho Medhanealem ). There is still no news out of Lalibela – I don't know if the TPLF captured areas still have had their internet cut, or what the deal is but people are saying they can't get in touch with their families there since the TPLF captured it, and I haven't seen any leaked photos of Lalibela recently, although there must be some somewhere. Ethiopia previously had extremely extensive 3G coverage but I guess it would be easy for the central government to shut off non-satellite internet access to recently-captured areas, and I don't think satellite phones are very common in Ethiopia since they're expensive and the cell service is usually good.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Saladman posted:

Ethiopia previously had extremely extensive 3G coverage but I guess it would be easy for the central government to shut off non-satellite internet access to recently-captured areas, and I don't think satellite phones are very common in Ethiopia since they're expensive and the cell service is usually good.

We were told when we were there a decade ago that sat phones are actually illegal.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

New coup just dropped in Guinea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoOHI9VWVW0

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
hmm, rule by french operators
something tells me he's gonna be a violent psycho

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Zedhe Khoja posted:

hmm, rule by french operators
something tells me he's gonna be a violent psycho

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1434518734534635520
Yup

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


https://twitter.com/TelegraphWorld/status/1434532668910325769

Can't comment on the source. This is near the tri-point of Ethiopia, Sudan, and Eritrea.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

https://twitter.com/TelegraphWorld/status/1434532668910325769

Can't comment on the source. This is near the tri-point of Ethiopia, Sudan, and Eritrea.

The Telegraph is a major UK newspaper. They're more reliable than a random twitter account, at least.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Count Roland posted:

The Telegraph is a major UK newspaper. They're more reliable than a random twitter account, at least.

They're a far-right tabloid that still think they're a broadsheet, but their international coverage mostly meets basic journalistic standards.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1434857203186405379?s=19
Oh man who could have done this?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Some military leaders who want to get rich? This isn't even the first recent junta, it's not like they wouldn't have considered it without the insidious whispers of the CIA. Non westerners have agency sometimes.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007


Given that by all accounts Condé seems to have had no problem letting mining interests exploit Guinea's resources, I'm gonna say...the people who did the coup, who aren't complete idiots?

(Mind you, when you aren't self aware enough to recognize that you're commiting West African Coup Ver.1.222a, you probably aren't going to be terribly familiar with, say, Mossadegh.)

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/the-interview/20210908-exclusive-uganda-s-museveni-says-guinea-coup-leaders-should-get-out

quote:

Exclusive: Uganda's Museveni says Guinea coup leaders 'should get out'

I just think of that old shmorky animation "computer fight", where the one computer says to the other: "big talk, coming from a giant vagina"

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Some military leaders who want to get rich? This isn't even the first recent junta, it's not like they wouldn't have considered it without the insidious whispers of the CIA. Non westerners have agency sometimes.

probably the french at least okayed this. west african special forces have pretty tight institutional connections to the french military and unless i misremember this guy is married to a french woman and a former legionnaire

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/the-interview/20210908-exclusive-uganda-s-museveni-says-guinea-coup-leaders-should-get-out

I just think of that old shmorky animation "computer fight", where the one computer says to the other: "big talk, coming from a giant vagina"

he compared Somali politics to "political aids" which is lol

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

PawParole posted:

he compared Somali politics to "political aids" which is lol

:drat: so apt though, like would YOU want to stick your country's military/political dick into political AIDS?

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

The new president of Guinea Colonel Doumbouya, seen driving a new Tesla Model X, has issued a statement "new boss same as old boss"

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

V. Illych L. posted:

probably the french at least okayed this. west african special forces have pretty tight institutional connections to the french military and unless i misremember this guy is married to a french woman and a former legionnaire

Absolutely, I'm just saying the causation might flow "aspiring dictator checks with his buddies" rather than "colonialists install random dictator". The ultimate result is not terribly different but one of these options involves (horrible) locals having their own agency.

which is in turn closely linked to why a lot of these programs are indirectly horrible

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/OromiaWa...%5Es1_&ref_url=

The OLA has been gaining in popularity in Eastern Oromia every day Jawar Mohamed has been in prison. Qeerroo have been defecting to OLA for months and now there are full blown OLA guerrilla cells in Arsi and Hararghe.

This is a problem Abiy created for himself with his heavy handed treatment of Jawar and the other Qeerroo leaders, who did not advocate for violence against the state, just for more rights and freedoms in Ethiopia.

The OLA have captured a number of villages and towns around Addis Ababa it just isn't getting a lot of press attention. The OLA have effectively cut Addis Ababa off from Amhara region by capturing the highway, which is why Abiy is supplying his army from airports (Gonder and Diredawa) via Ethiopian Airways flights, which is illegal for a commercial airline to do. He can do this because his opponents won't dare shoot down commercial airliners, and he mixes the military supply flights with normal civilian passenger and cargo flights. Abiy as always is playing with fire.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The new president of Guinea Colonel Doumbouya, seen driving a new Tesla Model X, has issued a statement "new boss same as old boss"

Well, good to know at least the 21st century dictators are going green now. Just waiting for a photo of MBS's gold-plated Plaid Model S.

Also can you link that photo/statement? I can't find a photo or anything else saying that.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

PawParole posted:

The OLA have captured a number of villages and towns around Addis Ababa it just isn't getting a lot of press attention. The OLA have effectively cut Addis Ababa off from Amhara region by capturing the highway,

I saw that announced like a month ago but I'm still skeptical of it, as there have been no additional posts either by the OLA or anyone else regarding the state of the road. If true, then how is Addis still getting anything itself? It's cut off then from Sudan, from Kenya, and from Djibouti (railway closed, road might still be open?). Information out of Ethiopia is garbage right now but Gondar and Bahir Dar are big cities so if they were closed for weeks to through-traffic to Addis I imagine it would have gotten at least some news.

ENDF also seems to have recaptured a fair bit of ground in the past week too, e.g. pushing north of Debark quite far down the face of the Simien mountains, pushing towards Lalibela, and also pushing towards Weldiya.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The new president of Guinea Colonel Doumbouya, seen driving a new Tesla Model X, has issued a statement "new boss same as old boss"

That would certainly save the next coup plotters the time and effort of blowing him up themselves.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Are international journalists allowed to report from Ethiopia? I find the lack of reliable sources to be odd given the scale and international character of this conflict. I basically only see Tigray get mentioned but little mention of Oromia or the OLA.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Count Roland posted:

Are international journalists allowed to report from Ethiopia? I find the lack of reliable sources to be odd given the scale and international character of this conflict. I basically only see Tigray get mentioned but little mention of Oromia or the OLA.

total press blackouts has become standard practice in dealing with internal conflicts over... i'd say the last five to ten years? i think they've realised that they can actually just turn off the internet and refuse to guarantee reporters' safety and foreigners will actually not take the risk, and because of the political economy of the media it actually won't be a big deal

it seems a part of the complete disintegration of the informal ethics of government that's been going on over the past years. at some point the forces that established a sort of governmental common-sense just atrophied and now various powerful people are pushing against it and finding that there's nothing much there. even in syria, a very well-covered war, you had blackout zones and the whole weird thing with the white helmets was going on

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Saladman posted:

Well, good to know at least the 21st century dictators are going green now. Just waiting for a photo of MBS's gold-plated Plaid Model S.

Also can you link that photo/statement? I can't find a photo or anything else saying that.

Sorry it was sarcasm. I was joking about the fact that he said "the mineral contracts will continue without interference" or something like that.

The Tesla model X joke was about Bolivian lithium coup

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Count Roland posted:

Are international journalists allowed to report from Ethiopia? I find the lack of reliable sources to be odd given the scale and international character of this conflict. I basically only see Tigray get mentioned but little mention of Oromia or the OLA.

The internet/vulture capital completely gutted foreign affairs reporting. The old model of thousands of smaller newspapers paying for agency/news wire reporting no longer exists and there's been belt tightening on international reporters all around for the last 15 years.

For most international conflicts why have a reporter on the ground when there's think tank analysts and the internet doing work for you and besides local and national news is what most people want to hear (especially in a pandemic)?

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