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Sep 6, 2021 23:09
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I see. Thanks for all the answers. Also I mentioned it earlier but it got a bit lost in the fast-moving thread; I got prescribed some nasal spray steroids for nasal polyps. Along with non-steroid spray and some anti-allergy stuff. How hosed will steroids make my immune system? Like is it a negligible amount? If it's substantial I may well put off the steroid spray until this is all over - lol by which I mean until I die.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:10
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Digressing, but the one thing I can't get over about the way we treat covid is how advanced hospitalization and medicine has affected its impact so far. Like, the whole reason tons of people are surviving is due to massive medical intervention being available. Setting aside care providers trying to fleece the victims afterward, the fact is that a lot of people have been saved by medical intervention of various levels during this whole thing. If covid had happened, say, even a couple centuries ago? Dead. Every single one of those equivalent people would have been dead. The medicine of the time would have been able to do nothing for them and the caregivers would have had no protection at all. It would have been the straight up Red Death or some poo poo. But no one, not one person, seems concerned about the possibility of the spread going even wider, of vaccines losing efficacy, of the possibility that enough people might get sick that ICUs - especially Pediatric ICUs, and kids can't just be put in adult ICUs - might literally get 100% full with the equivalent of 100% capacity's worth of human beings still needing that level of care and it not existing. Those people are going to deadass die, and no one even seems cognizant of this fact. what im trying to say is, i absolutely dread the coming couple of months
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Sep 6, 2021 23:11
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Why was 6 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 horse dewormer.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:12
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Jon Irenicus posted:where did the people in the hospitals go We're below the absolute peak because Delta hasn't really ramped up all around the country yet so even though multiple states are choked full the overall national numbers aren't quite as bad as last winter so therefore COVID is over.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:12
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I see. Thanks for all the answers. dont forgo medical treatment you need.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:13
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I see. Thanks for all the answers. If your doctor said to take them, take them. If you doubt call them and ask about it.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:13
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Chamale posted:I was on warfarin. As long as I ate a steady amount of vitamin K that wasn't a problem, but eating too much fibre while on it can cause horrible nausea. And it interacts with a bunch of chemicals, hence the long list of plants I was told to avoid entirely. I've been on it for 16 years. Still cook with plenty of ginger and garlic and dried mango is an awesome snack. Never had fiber-pains, but you don't have to tell me twice not to eat grapefruit, that poo poo is cursed. It's still rat poison and awful and I wish I didn't have to take it. And not just because it's contraindicated with BOTH butt-chugging ivermectin AND purposefully Open Bidening, since even "mild" COVID can quietly sucker punch your liver and make you overdose.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:13
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I see. Thanks for all the answers. go to the loving dentist and take your loving medicine, goons
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Sep 6, 2021 23:14
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Cup Runneth Over posted:go to the loving dentist and take your loving medicine, goons
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Sep 6, 2021 23:15
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If you're worried about getting sick just turn the bathroom lights off and chant endemic endemic endemic 13 times, then brush your teeth with some horse paste.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:15
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SpaceDrake posted:what im trying to say is, i absolutely dread the coming couple of months Why? Seems like we'll get some great thread content!
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Sep 6, 2021 23:15
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Salt Fish posted:If your doctor said to take them, take them. If you doubt call them and ask about it. It was a walk-in because my insurance sucks and getting an appointment is nearly impossible. But my doctor also had the opinion of 'oh you don't need a booster, the CDC said everything will be fine if you've got 2.' so yeah. I'm less than thrilled by the quality of my healthcare and kind of terrified by the prospect of months of a weakened immune system. But eh, guess I'll give them a call before starting that and see if they can get back to me before I or they die of COVID. Thanks, again, everyone. C-Spam is the best, goons are the best. EDIT: Hey, I've seen my dentist a few times since this all began! I've seen plenty of doctors in fact. I've gotten medical attention as needed. It's just yeah, I'm not so sure about the tradeoff between 'compromised immune system?' (IDK how bad steroids are!) for 'improved breathing.' Like I can live with a cough and allergies more than I can COVID.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:15
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“Hey, I’m a good person, you can tell by the fact that I would totally be happy to do the right thing if someone from the government made sure I had no other choice. Until then, though, there are bad people doing things, and it’s not fair that the bad people get to do the things and I don’t, so I’m going to do what the bad people do because otherwise it’s unfair to me, a good person.” Liberals are amazing
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Sep 6, 2021 23:16
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I see. Thanks for all the answers. no one knows the answer to that question sorry. steroids do lower immune response, but the degree to which that increases your chances of contracting this particular infectious respiratory epidemic disease is not something anyone has measured. i think a good hypothesis is that it does increase that chance, but also you should use the medicine you need for your nose bumps because you need it and the pandemic isn't going anywhere. if your nose is runny because of it you're more likely to break mask discipline as well, which is probably a larger influence on infection risk. that's what "living with the virus" actually means too. people just have another nuanced decision to make without a clear best answer and with a variety of varying risk profiles. it's bad.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:18
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I see. Thanks for all the answers. If it's some kind of OTC-strength nasal corticosteroid spray like Flonase (fluticasone propionate) or similar, there's no evidence that it has any effect on systemic immune response and even the local effect is very limited. If it's something stronger, maybe but otoh polyps bad.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:20
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Stereotype posted:no one knows the answer to that question sorry. steroids do lower immune response, but the degree to which that increases your chances of contracting this particular infectious respiratory epidemic disease is not something anyone has measured. i think a good hypothesis is that it does increase that chance, but also you should use the medicine you need for your nose bumps because you need it and the pandemic isn't going anywhere. if your nose is runny because of it you're more likely to break mask discipline as well, which is probably a larger influence on infection risk. Stuffy, more than runny. And my mask discipline is immaculate. I legit don't take my respo off once I leave the house unless I'm being examined by a doctor and asked to do so. But yeah. It's a nuanced decision to make without any real data or expert weigh-in because the healthcare system has been compromised by genocidal ghouls who are underplaying the severity of the crisis at every step of the way, and overplaying the efficacy of vaccines as well. Most of the doctors I've had to interact with since this began have been firmly 'you're vaccinated and in your early 30s, you have nothing to worry about.'
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Sep 6, 2021 23:20
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:It was a walk-in because my insurance sucks and getting an appointment is nearly impossible. But my doctor also had the opinion of 'oh you don't need a booster, the CDC said everything will be fine if you've got 2.' so yeah. I'm less than thrilled by the quality of my healthcare and kind of terrified by the prospect of months of a weakened immune system. But eh, guess I'll give them a call before starting that and see if they can get back to me before I or they die of COVID. if you are legitimately considering skipping prescription medicine because you're worried about catching COVID, wear your respirator. if you're considering that and you don't own a respirator, what the gently caress
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Sep 6, 2021 23:20
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Cup Runneth Over posted:if you are legitimately considering skipping prescription medicine because you're worried about catching COVID, wear your respirator. if you're considering that and you don't own a respirator, what the gently caress Also this. You have the perfect excuse for a bane mask now.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:22
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The Oldest Man posted:If it's some kind of OTC-strength nasal corticosteroid spray like Flonase (fluticasone propionate) or similar, there's no evidence that it has any effect on systemic immune response and even the local effect is very limited. If it's something stronger, maybe but otoh polyps bad. I was going to fill the prescription today but my pharmacy was closed, but the illegible scrawl I have from the doc seems to say 'fluxcasone' but I'm assuming that's just a garbled version of fluticasone. Thanks. Appreciate it. And I normally would never consider going against the suggestion of a doctor, I'm usually very submissive to authority when it comes to stuff like this, funny enough. I know that I know very little about biology, and they know a lot. But when I have doctors repeatedly telling me the same nonsense the CDC is spewing, it kind of breaks my faith in the system. EDIT: And I've been elastomeric elite for months. I mean really, sounding like Bane or Darth Vader is its own reward and I have no idea why so few people are down for it. That I'm possibly saving my own life and the lives of those around me in addition is just icing on the cake.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:23
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:EDIT: And I've been elastomeric elite for months. I mean really, sounding like Bane or Darth Vader is its own reward and I have no idea why so few people are down for it. That I'm possibly saving my own life and the lives of those around me in addition is just icing on the cake. then you have nothing to worry about, unless you are for some reason taking your respirator off outside your home. respirator crew ain't getting no virus unless it catches them slipping
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Sep 6, 2021 23:26
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Cup Runneth Over posted:if you are legitimately considering skipping prescription medicine because you're worried about catching COVID, wear your respirator. if you're considering that and you don't own a respirator, what the gently caress I think OP's concerned about the booster possibly not being effective unless he stops taking the steroid inhaler But I could be mistaken
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Sep 6, 2021 23:26
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Stereotype posted:lol i've never seen it squeezed out before. i was imagining an opaque green paste, it's like a clear jelly. Let's be real, folks: this is horse jelly.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:28
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Cup Runneth Over posted:then you have nothing to worry about, unless you are for some reason taking your respirator off outside your home. respirator crew ain't getting no virus unless it catches them slipping Well, still gotta take it off to see doctors and I doubt my faceshield is perfectly protecting my eyes. Plus there are other people in my house who I avoid and are on different floors but yeah. Point is I prefer to take no chances when possible. But apparently flonase is NBD so eh. That's good. Plus who knows how long the pharmacies will be open anyway. I've been filling my brainmeds and cholesterol meds in advance ever since this began just in case I need to go a few weeks without being able to visit a pharmacy because of societal collapse.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:29
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Look, you people all just need to stop asking questions and believe in science. We're going to open Biden harder than we've ever opened before. Get vaccinated.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:30
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https://twitter.com/ericszyszka/status/1434878037208805378?s=19 Funny, but he's probably going to get suspended
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Sep 6, 2021 23:31
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i took the day off from the thread yesterday, is covid over now?
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Sep 6, 2021 23:31
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president Xi, i will suck ur fuckin DICK if you just send those Chengdu J-20s over
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Sep 6, 2021 23:31
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The simulation is mocking us. I want out!
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Sep 6, 2021 23:32
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Whoever recommended switching to safety razor shaving thank you. I'm so smooth.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:32
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gently caress gandhi gently caress oster gently caress fauci gently caress open biden gently caress them all god damnit loving gently caress
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Sep 6, 2021 23:34
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lol literally making me sick to my stomach i want to puke after reading / watching this
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Sep 6, 2021 23:35
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Sep 6, 2021 23:36
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Tzen posted:gently caress gandhi I said it about Abbot and DeSantis and it applies to them to; That these monsters are not in cells awaiting trial for their crimes against humanity is a failure of our government. That they have not been dragged from their homes and subjected to mob justice is a failure of our society. There are going to be thousands of dead children and literally millions more maimed for life in these next two months, and Americans just don't loving give a poo poo at all. Over two 9/11s exclusively of children, and not a peep.
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Sep 6, 2021 23:36
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GhostOfTomNook posted:Thanks to open er up, we had an at-home vaccine challenge experiment the last 10 days. hopefully everyone recovers well
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Sep 6, 2021 23:37
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Georgia is deteriorating faster then I thought or anyone is acknowledging. https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1434906143999025155
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Sep 6, 2021 23:38
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I said it about Abbot and DeSantis and it applies to them to; with all the parents soon to be dead due to open biden with the schools i wonder if orphanages in America will become a thing again
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Sep 6, 2021 23:39
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What are our guesses on Tuesday numbers?
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Sep 6, 2021 23:41
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Zurtilik posted:What are our guesses on Tuesday numbers? bigly
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Sep 6, 2021 23:42
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my family is treating me like I’m insane for still hunkering down and vastly limiting my exposure. holidays are coming up. I can see myself completely isolating from my family yet again because I don’t want the virus. logically I won’t see them ever again because they don’t behave safely and I don’t want to get infected or infect my SO. I feel like the zombies are at the gates. just an overwhelming sense of futility to resist against the tide trying to suck me under. this poo poo is crazy
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