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Cases have had a nice bump as a bank holiday treat, and they will surely have another with the reopening of schools, so more restrictions are probably on the cards. I wonder if they'll have to thread the needle on cancelling Christmas again, or if reduced hospitalisations and deaths means they'll just decide that everyone can do what they want.
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I actually had no idea national insurance was that regressive. There is really no good reason for it to exist. Also I have to pay a weath tax that is a little bit progressive, and if the loving Swiss are able to tolerate a wealth tax, surely the UK can manage to bring one in.
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Sep 7, 2021 15:45
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knox_harrington posted:I actually had no idea national insurance was that regressive. There is really no good reason for it to exist. Also I have to pay a weath tax that is a little bit progressive, and if the loving Swiss are able to tolerate a wealth tax, surely the UK can manage to bring one in. It's easy to tolerate a small wealth tax when you know you have an inheritance of Nazi gold resting in an anonymous account somewhere
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Sep 7, 2021 15:51
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's good to read some positive dadpolitics interactions, too many crap dads itt Seeing my parents for the first time in several years soon, so I'm bound to have more libdad stories for the thread. 
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Sep 7, 2021 16:09
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My dad is a hardcore Fubpee. Honestly think it'd be less annoying if he was just right wing at this point.
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Sep 7, 2021 16:15
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's easy to tolerate a small wealth tax when you know you have an inheritance of Nazi gold resting in an anonymous account somewhere Funny thing about this is people seem to give more FlaK to the Swiss for trading with the Nazis in WW2 than the Germans for actually being the Nazis. Not defending the swiss bankers ofc.
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Sep 7, 2021 16:20
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My dad treated me to a rant about how it's only right and proper working people foot the bill for him, as a pensioner. This is going to go through like a greased otter, and Labour won't lift a finger to stop it.
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Sep 7, 2021 16:30
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Trickjaw posted:My dad treated me to a rant about how it's only right and proper working people foot the bill for him, as a pensioner. This is going to go through like a greased otter, and Labour won't lift a finger to stop it. Starmer will oppose the 1.5% increase and propose that a Labour government would only raise NI by 1.25%
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Sep 7, 2021 16:42
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Speaking of things that will go through like a greased otter: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/07/uk-troubles-amnesty-plan-goes-further-than-pinochets-studyquote:The UK government’s plan to end all Troubles-era prosecutions in Northern Ireland would create an amnesty wider than the one Augusto Pinochet introduced to shield human rights violators in Chile, according to a study.
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Sep 7, 2021 16:42
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knox_harrington posted:Funny thing about this is people seem to give more FlaK to the Swiss for trading with the Nazis in WW2 than the Germans for actually being the Nazis. Not defending the swiss bankers ofc. Bankers are monumentally unlikeable
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Sep 7, 2021 16:53
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When I told my Dad the shelves were empty and he couldn't get the things he wanted from the shops because of a lack of lorry drivers and he voted to "get rid of the foreigners" he said the lazy people with no jobs can do it instead then. He also asked if the Indian teacher my Mum is teaching assistant for talks with a *does stereotypical Indian / Apu impression* head wobble thing. What a wanker.
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Sep 7, 2021 17:24
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Dead Goon posted:When I told my Dad the shelves were empty and he couldn't get the things he wanted from the shops because of a lack of lorry drivers and he voted to "get rid of the foreigners" he said the lazy people with no jobs can do it instead then. I'm unemployed for a reason, I'm poo poo at everything I've tried to do thus far in my life. Most jobs are just bust work to keep other people doing pointless poo poo equally busy. Stop making me do work.
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Sep 7, 2021 17:37
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it's okay everyone it's a health and social care tax we're paying for clapclap-times carers so it's okay and if you say it's bad you're a horrible uncaring monster
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Sep 7, 2021 18:15
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forkboy84 posted:Bankers are monumentally unlikeable My dad’s an economist if anyone is making “most nazi profession” charts.
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Sep 7, 2021 18:16
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crispix posted:it's okay everyone it's a health and social care tax we're paying for clapclap-times carers so it's okay and if you say it's bad you're a horrible uncaring monster Naturally, all front line staff will get their pay rise now, right?
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Sep 7, 2021 18:19
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crispix posted:it's okay everyone it's a health and social care tax we're paying for clapclap-times carers so it's okay and if you say it's bad you're a horrible uncaring monster NHS workers see lowest cut in wages in a decade masked as a pay rise. NHS workers eat a NI rise to pay for it.
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Sep 7, 2021 18:45
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It's not very comradely, but I think now all working people, who can't afford accountants to loophole out of it, to get on board with umbrella companies, until underlying wealth is effectively taxed. They could have done both, too, and this wouldn't be immediately spotted as mortgaging the future of the populace.
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Sep 7, 2021 18:56
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knox_harrington posted:Funny thing about this is people seem to give more FlaK to the Swiss for trading with the Nazis in WW2 than the Germans for actually being the Nazis. Not defending the swiss bankers ofc. I think you've been indoctrinated into some Basel selfpity groupthink because that is just not true at all lol. learnincurve posted:My dad’s an economist if anyone is making “most nazi profession” charts. Of fucken course he is
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Sep 7, 2021 19:12
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https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1435278978030391300 I really am very confused as to what could be quantified as a lie.
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Sep 7, 2021 19:16
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When Diane Abbott forgets a number.
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Sep 7, 2021 19:19
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knox_harrington posted:Funny thing about this is people seem to give more FlaK to the Swiss for trading with the Nazis in WW2 than the Germans for actually being the Nazis. Not defending the swiss bankers ofc. Well a lot of the german nazis got blown up by literal flak so that helps.
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Sep 7, 2021 19:21
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It would be cool if there were some videogames where you could headshot Swiss bankers tho
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Sep 7, 2021 19:30
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Failed Imagineer posted:It would be cool if there were some videogames where you could headshot Swiss bankers tho The Hitman games (the new trilogy) is pretty good for that.
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Sep 7, 2021 19:32
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Failed Imagineer posted:It would be cool if there were some videogames where you could headshot Swiss bankers tho the third level of Hitman has a Swedish one if that's close enough for you
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Sep 7, 2021 19:33
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It's like hating the british because nobody has nuked us yet, pretty reasonable tbh.
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Sep 7, 2021 19:33
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Julio Cruz posted:the third level of Hitman has a Swedish one if that's close enough for you Yeah they're the same thing afaik
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Sep 7, 2021 19:36
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As nobody has nuked me yet I spent today at work. 
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Sep 7, 2021 19:58
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keep punching joe posted:Lol didn't realise higher income peeps pay less NI, just assumed it was flat across the population. I dunno if it's different in Scotland but I'm just above that figure for my salary and paid 9% NIS last month. As far as I was aware you pay a certain tax threshold on your salary up to a certain figure. So I pay 12% on £30k or whatever and then the rest is 2% of £20k (I don't know the actual thresholds). It doesn't change things though. Just that it is flat in a sense. The only difference between higher and lower earners is that the higher earners have a second bucket of money that's taxed less. I think.
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Sep 7, 2021 20:02
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The way of thinking about it is that people earning less money pay proportionally more of their money in taxes so that the higher earners don't have to.
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Sep 7, 2021 20:20
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Caught Newsbeat on Radio 1 driving home and they had a vox pop from a young woman, Sophie, who voted Tory in the last election. Genuinely did a little cackle when her vox pop was basically "I don't see why working people such as myself should pay for the rise in NI, surely the government should Cut Benefits to Get More People Into Work to pay for it instead". Actual stereotype. The report must have been at around 17:45 if anyone fancies a listen (why would you though).
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Sep 7, 2021 20:30
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That could literally be a colleague of mine. Very nice, sensible Sophie... voted Tory, just like so many others.
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Sep 7, 2021 20:37
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So the Guardian printed a great interview with Judith Butler https://twitter.com/robin__craig/status/1435212820036128771?s=21 Then, presumably after the Terfs at the paper actually read the content of it, they excised three entire paragraphs, the reasoning being “developments which occurred after the interview took place (???) https://twitter.com/oldnorthroad/status/1435327870742769665?s=21 Absolutely mad stuff. gently caress the Guardian
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Noxville posted:So the Guardian printed a great interview with Judith Butler Jesus. That’s disgusting.
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Sep 7, 2021 21:35
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Can we even call them liberal when they censor an article to remove the bits saying "these are the neo-fascists, this is why they're neo-fascists, and neo-fascism is on the rise". Guess the liberal got scratched.
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Guavanaut posted:Can we even call them liberal when they censor an article to remove the bits saying "these are the neo-fascists, this is why they're neo-fascists, and neo-fascism is on the rise". Sounds liberal tbh
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Sep 7, 2021 21:37
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Butler really is up there with Chomsky in absolutely just demolishing her ideological opponents with rock-solid arguments and deep understanding of the academic discourse. The Guardian, to the contrary, sucks poo poo
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Any liberal in the tradition of J S Mill or Bertrand Russell would come to the conclusion that either "if we print the fascist, so that their points can be discussed, we must print the points discussing them" or "the fascist will print his point anyway, so when a respected person from an affected group makes a counterpoint we have a duty to make it for consideration" depending on which of the two (and at which point in their life) the liberal is tending towards. If they can't even meet that minimal moral standard, then they've gone fully into the abyss of bow tie classical liberals and fascist appeaser liberals. e: ^ I was just thinking of Chomsky as another "respected person from an affected group" who they'd probably censor to appease fash.
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Didn't they stop publishing Chomsky years ago? I remember Chomsky on something in the last couple of years grumbling that the only place that would publish him is the London Review of Books
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Sep 7, 2021 22:07
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Didn't he go all in on the freeze peach rowling letter?
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They interviewed him about Trump's Covid response last year, but idk if they censored any crucial chunks, even if only because 'Trump bad' is relatively uncontroversial for them. e: ^ He did sign the letter that Atwood and Rushdie also signed, but Atwood is anti-terf and it was more a general warning against curtailing controversial speech because it was unpopular with certain interests, which lol the guardian just loving did. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Sep 7, 2021 |
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