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It is a bit weird how apparently anything other than normal vaccination has to be a miracle cure. It's like taking your car to the garage and they tell you the brakes are hosed and you decide that you actually need to start pissing in the fuel tank and that will fix it.
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And also all the studies on the vaccine(s) are faked and nobody knows what's in them but also it's definitely 5G fetuses. e: In automotive terms the known conspiracies over tetraethyl lead and catalytic converters and oil changes are all actually suppressed knowledge, and the suggestion to change the brakes is just big brake pad (but not the one that covered up asbestos, the other one done by liberal marxulists) so the correct thing to do is replace your brake pads with lead, put asbestos in the fuel tank, and replace all your oil with 8 month old fryer grease. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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Sep 2, 2021 23:15
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One wonders how they made vaccines back when abortion wasn't legal where'd they get all the fetus bits from.
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Sep 2, 2021 23:16
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Just to give you an idea of what they call "inconsistencies in the data", one of the patients was supposedly released from the hospital on June 31. There have been new trials of Ivermectin and as I understand they don't look promising. It's also worth noting that even this study was about the human approved Ivermectin, not the horse paste. While it probably wouldn't help with Covid, it also probably wouldn't kill you. An internet doctors website with questionable financial ties to Ivermectin advocacy groups was advertised on social media as a place to get prescriptions for (human safe) Ivermectin, but they ended up getting massively overbooked so all the people who had seen social media promise it was a miracle cure started looking at lifestock medicine, and that's where the poisoning started. Bremen fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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Sep 2, 2021 23:23
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OwlFancier posted:It is a bit weird how apparently anything other than normal vaccination has to be a miracle cure. To these people, even the vaccines have to be a miracle cure or else they're nothing. A whole lot of them have added "if you can still get COVID with the vaccine, what's the point?" to their repertoire of bad-faith anti-vaxx talking points. It's like arguing that seatbelts are pointless because people still die in car crashes, but what Big Auto doesn't want you to know is that you'll be safe if you pour this one additive in your gas tank. Bremen posted:An internet doctors website with questionable financial ties to Ivermectin advocacy groups was advertised on social media as a place to get prescriptions for (human safe) Ivermectin, but they ended up getting massively overbooked so all the people who had seen social media promise it was a miracle cure started looking at lifestock medicine, and that's where the poisoning started.
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Sep 2, 2021 23:34
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Blotto_Otter posted:It's like arguing that seatbelts are pointless because people still die in car crashes, but what Big Auto doesn't want you to know is that you'll be safe if you pour this one additive in your gas tank. See both cars got damaged and both drivers got thrown about, that's why new cars are trash made by metrosexual hipsters and the cars I liked when I was a child kicked rear end (but also why I need a giant truck).
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Sep 2, 2021 23:38
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Blotto_Otter posted:Was this the same site that gave its "patients" the choice of getting either HCQ or Ivermectin, which somehow didn't cause any of these people to stop and wonder "hold on a moment, why do we need a second miracle cure?" Yep.
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Sep 2, 2021 23:41
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Blotto_Otter posted:To these people, even the vaccines have to be a miracle cure or else they're nothing. A whole lot of them have added "if you can still get COVID with the vaccine, what's the point?" to their repertoire of bad-faith anti-vaxx talking points. They're Christians they believe in sorcery and spells and raising the dead and transubstantiation. Is it all that shocking that people who believe in magic believe in magic?
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And the people who treat disease by lighting a bunch of candles and praying at the sick person OK, I get that, it is an entirely different concept of how the world works but sure you can reject materialism. But the idea that scientists keep accidentally discovering miracle cures other than the actual highly effective cure which is actually very bad is just... well it lacks flair IMO. If you're going to just believe whatever you can at least try and come up with something more impressive than some stupid clancywank rubbish about how the world is actually materialistic but there is also a big conspiracy. It's just really loving pathetic, it's made out of recycled lovely movie plots. Have some loving taste in your insanity for god's sake. Like why can't you be doing poo poo like pickled rat tails under the full moon for your loving magic cures, what kind of magic potion is horse paste? Why aren't you dosing water with enough radium that it glows and makes your corpse spontaneously combust? People need to put some effort in IMO. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Sep 3, 2021 |
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Sep 3, 2021 00:25
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OwlFancier posted:One wonders how they made vaccines back when abortion wasn't legal Pineal glands of Christian babies
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pseudanonymous posted:They're Christians they believe in sorcery and spells and raising the dead and transubstantiation. Is it all that shocking that people who believe in magic believe in magic? OwlFancier posted:It's just really loving pathetic, it's made out of recycled lovely movie plots. Have some loving taste in your insanity for god's sake.
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Blotto_Otter posted:To these people, even the vaccines have to be a miracle cure or else they're nothing. A whole lot of them have added "if you can still get COVID with the vaccine, what's the point?" to their repertoire of bad-faith anti-vaxx talking points. This kind of all-or-nothing reasoning is an old standard whenever people don't want to change or just plain don't wanna do something. Since nothing is ever 100% you can always say "oh you can't guarantee if I do X then Y can never happen, well it's useless then!". And yes they said the exact same thing when seatbelts first came out, literally. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-02-05-8701090791-story.html Some loving 1980s idiot, christ posted:Society is paying dearly for state safety belt laws. Hundreds of millions of dollars are being wasted by safety belt law supporters in order to make accidents more tolerable--more humane, according to the personal safety standards of the governor and the state legislature. They also like to turn it around and claim the thing they don't like is more dangerous ("masks make you sick by trapping the viruses already inside you") and it is the safety people who are the real hazard. that same loving dumbass who needed a swift kick in the rear end posted:Also, while the use of a safety belt can, indeed, save a life in certain kinds of accidents, in other kinds of accidents it can take a life. Further, some persons have been saved from death only because they had not used a safety belt. Using a safety belt is not a guarantee of safety and must be the free choice of a person`s informed judgment. Naturally they never apply it to stuff they like ("abortion laws are pointless because women can still get an abortion with a coat hanger" said no conservative ever) I actually believed air bags were deadly until I was an adult because my dad told me they were when I was a kid and why would your dad lie or be stupid. And I don't mean he told me that air bags for adults are dangerous to kids and that's why kids should sit in the backseat until they're old enough, but I misunderstood because I was a kid. I mean he went on some rants (which I realize now he probably heard from Rush Limbaugh) that airbags make car crashes more dangerous and they're killing all these people, but we all have to be forced to have them because whiny liberals passed air bag laws to make themselves feel good and they don't know or care how bad air bags are, it's all about their feelings. My kid brain just filed that away and believed it by default like you do and I think was like 20 before I was like "hey wait a minute, why am I scared of airbags, why would people put up with killer air bags, was he full of poo poo"
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Blotto_Otter posted:It was nearly an exact replay of the whole hydroxychloroquine mess: a preprint of a study goes up showing a big impact when used on COVID patients, people start noticing problems with the study that suggest it is some combination of shoddy/plagiarized/forged, and the preprint eventually gets pulled - but only after right-wing grifters and conspiracy theorists have latched onto it as a possible miracle cure and started talking about it on social media. Those grifters/nutballs then argue that the withdrawal of the study was part of a cover-up to prevent you from learning about the miracle cure, and any further studies that happen to refute the original claim are just dismissed as parts of the cover-up conspiracy. I think that there are doctors, quacks and quack doctors that promote various medicines. Prior to covid-19 there were people promoting Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, MMC bleach, and you know crystals, orgone energy and whatever else as a cure for various conditions. Then covid-19 comes along, these people add it into the list of the various conditions that their favored drug supposedly cures. With Hydroxy- and Ivermectin, they are both drugs that are used to treat real conditions especially in the tropics which also are where the vaccines may not be widely available. Ivermectin does work very well against a variety of parasites. So you have doctors like Americas Frontline Doctors/Stella Immanuel promoting these non-vaccine treatments, amplified by right wing media and it takes off from there. Immanuel is from Cameroon and has said that Hydrox- and Ivermectin are fine to take because lots of people in Cameroon take them (for malaria and river blindness).
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Going back a moment, there really was (human-use) ivermectin prescribed after a COVID infection. It happened in India, where parasite infection in the extremely poor is much more common, as an extension of their deworming campaign from years before COVID (I remember it hitting news in 2018), because it's easier to recover from COVID while you don't also have parasites. That's also why some conservatives point to India as an 'ivermectin success' but 'you aren't allowed to talk about that' on American news; they have a fundamental and often wilful misunderstanding of what it was being used for. It was a success at treating one of the pre-existing conditions that could make recovering from COVID worse, and that's all.
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Georgia football coach Kirby Smart says Bulldogs experiencing 'highest spike' of COVID-19 despite more than 90% being vaccinated The vaccine didn't cure COVID therefore we should let it tear through every corner of the Earth unabatedquote:To: God luvs America quote:To: Empire_of_Liberty The pandemic equivalent of "I'm not racist but...." quote:To: God luvs America quote:To: God luvs America quote:To: God luvs America I mean we have stats on this right now, and unvaccinated people are more likely to die. Not that it matters to these morons, of course. quote:To: God luvs America
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Sep 7, 2021 02:55
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Some Freeper Dipshit posted:A few did die, but Over, and over, and over again, anti-vaxxers just happy to declare how it's completely okay for other people to die because they just can't be bothered. Edit: learned my uncle was one of these today. My father is frail enough that a mild flu might kill him, so I guess my uncle isn't bothered he could actually kill kill his brother, and certainly doesn't seem to care that he could kill his parents, because when my other uncle told him that he'd not be able to visit my grandmother in the old folks home, because they are requiring people to be vaccinated in order to enter, he said "I'd like to see them stop me." Mind you, the idea of that uncle muscling past staff is completely hilarious to me, as he'd not get five inches in before being tossed out on his skinny rear end, but even so, cool. Cool, cool, cool. kartikeya fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Sep 7, 2021 |
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Sep 7, 2021 04:43
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kartikeya posted:Over, and over, and over again, anti-vaxxers just happy to declare how it's completely okay for other people to die because they just can't be bothered.
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I know I'm not the only person in here who has experienced having family get brain worms. But even having grown up with non-denominational pentecostal insane people, their embracing anti-vax stuff blows my loving mind. Especially because most of them are obese hypochondriacs.
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Hypochondria is by definition an irrational idea about your health, it isn't terribly surprising that they would adopt other irrational ideas.
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Idaho hospitals begin rationing health care amid COVID surge Technically they've activated their crisis mode that allows them them to ration care, not that they've started rationing care just yet, but still  quote:To: Callahan quote:To: Callahan Fake News! quote:To: Callahan quote:To: Callahan Come on, it's not even Deer Hunting Season yet. quote:To: Callahan Idaho has one of the worst vaccination rates in the country, by the way. quote:To: Callahan Fake! News! quote:To: cockroach_magoo quote:To: jonrick46 Have I said "Fake News!" yet? quote:To: Callahan  quote:To: jonrick46 Sorry, we're full up here, you'll have to go somewhere else. quote:To: Callahan quote:To: Organic Panic quote:To: mewzilla quote:To: Skywise
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quote:To: Skywise I really wish the Democrats were this willing to do something to enact an agenda.
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pseudanonymous posted:I really wish the Democrats were this willing to do something to enact an agenda. Communist oup government is basically code for "ZOG MACHINE"
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To keep a fire going you really need to get a good bed of coals going since that allows you to not have to constantly feed the fire individually. If you just put sticks on you have to be there forever. This is actually a great metaphor for political momentum while showing that this freeper couldn’t warm their own withered nut sack.
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quote:if we had just let it run its course, yes, it would’ve been bad - but like Sweden and Finland we’d be DONE with it by now. Finland didn't let it "run its course" lmao
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Sep 8, 2021 19:13
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"i heard a slogan and badly misunderstood what it meant, this proves they're liars trying to take over the world"
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Sep 8, 2021 20:24
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DarkCrawler posted:Finland didn't let it "run its course" lmao Sweden also eventually had to close non-essential public spaces like gyms, closed high schools and university, limit gatherings in restaurants and mandated social distancing after their approach completely failed. They ended up in the same economic hit as everyone else but with the bonus of a death rate of 10x that of neighboring countries. The only reason it wasn’t worse was because the country isn’t densely populated. A shining example according to Freep 
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DarkCrawler posted:Finland didn't let it "run its course" lmao Neither did Sweden for that matter, but they remember telling themselves that those countries never locked down, so it must be true
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Neither did Sweden tbh, they just weren't as enthusiastic about ordering lockdowns and relied more on recommendations, and as a result had 7-8 times more deaths per capita (which is still 30% less than the US).
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There's a whole industry in claiming that Sweden didn't do anything and just encouraged common sense and thus won at Covid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IBo1KvNSX4 
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Yeah, it is just hilarious because as a Finn in Finland I am right now riding public transport where two out of the three unmasked people are children and we somehow zoomed past U.S. in both 1. And 2. shots taken as a % of the population despite our disastrous initial rollout and Biden's stellar one. Can't say about masks in Sweden but they got America beaten in vaccinations too. Finland lost less people than all but 5 states but 29 states have a smaller population. Freephoney, it ain't Finland that let it run it's course lol.
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Sep 9, 2021 13:37
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DarkCrawler posted:Yeah, it is just hilarious because as a Finn in Finland I am right now riding public transport where two out of the three unmasked people are children and we somehow zoomed past U.S. in both 1. And 2. shots taken as a % of the population despite our disastrous initial rollout and Biden's stellar one. Can't say about masks in Sweden but they got America beaten in vaccinations too. Finland lost less people than all but 5 states but 29 states have a smaller population. Historically, it has been a bad idea to underestimate the Finns. What the gently caress does freep know about history though?
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What do these guys think about Bidens latest plans for covid mandates?
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Look into your heart. You know the answer. Then get a bottle of something and take a shot every time they say “tyranny”.
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This is a crowd that already thinks OSHA has made America weaker as a nation, of course they're mad about OSHA making vaccination mandatory.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Then get a bottle of something and take a shot every time they say “tyranny”. Are you trying to kill us?
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HappyHippo posted:Are you trying to kill us? I was reading TexAgs earlier (I am a masochist and also there was some worry for a bit they were spinning up an organized harassment campaign against some TAMU CVM faculty over a mask mandate in the hospital) and yeah, that would be deadly. You'd get hammered just on thread titles. Diving into posts would be suicide.
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Now that Biden is forcefully leveraging Federal power to push vax mandates nationally, as of today, I'm expecting some good material in this thread.
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Zwabu posted:Now that Biden is forcefully leveraging Federal power to push vax mandates nationally, as of today, I'm expecting some good material in this thread. I'm sure as poo poo doing the same. But I'm also terrified for the proud Made-In-The-USA-McVeighs that are about to sprout up like weeds. I don't mean I'm terrified for my own safety, because I've got bigger poo poo to worry about. But as a country? poo poo's probably going to get nasty. (I have to admit, I'm thrilled a certain mother of mine is almost certainly going to get forced to vaccinate. She's 63 or 64, obese, and works for a big rear end publishing company. She isn't getting a choice in the matter. Her powerful brand of willful ignorance has always had a high chance of getting her killed.)
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Captain Log posted:I'm sure as poo poo doing the same. Don't gloat to soon. She might just go into early retirement to own the libs.
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