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sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
Can we please have PubeDoc officially weigh in on this? It’s important.

Also n’th’ing the hosed up nightmares on prescribed medications, it sucks - I apparently become quite passionate about Cantona vs Crystal Palace fan incident since I kick the poo poo out of anything in the bed with me (the escort service now charges me extra.)

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Having crazy dreams means you're probably taking way more than you need to. The recommended dose according to my sleep specialist is .5-1mg :eng101:

I looked into melatonin once and was turned off when I learned that the off the shelf stuff you can get here, when tested in a lab, has wildly varying actual levels of melatonin compared to what's on the label. Like anywhere from 50% to 800% of what the label says, which is a pretty huge variation when you're not supposed to go over like 1 mg or you risk permanently loving up your sleep because your body stops producing its own melatonin supply.

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


Mechafunkzilla posted:

Having crazy dreams means you're probably taking way more than you need to. The recommended dose according to my sleep specialist is .5-1mg :eng101:

And yet in North America you commonly only find it in 5mg - 10 mg tablets, you know, real propah doses.

Why?

https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/12/did-a-melatonin-patent-inspire-current-dose-confusion/ posted:

MIT was so excited about our research team’s melatonin-sleep connection discovery that they decided to patent the use of reasonable doses of melatonin—up to 1 mg—for promoting sleep.

But they made a big mistake. They assumed that the FDA would want to regulate the hormone and its use as a sleep therapy. They also thought the FDA wouldn’t allow companies to sell melatonin in doses 3-times, 10-times, even 15-times more than what’s necessary to promote sound sleep.

Much to MIT’s surprise, however, the FDA took a pass on melatonin.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Slotducks posted:

And yet in North America you commonly only find it in 5mg - 10 mg tablets, you know, real propah doses.

Why?

That's only when taken orally. :heysexy:

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Can confirm everyone I know who’s used melatonin had ultimately ended up dependent on it/having a hosed up sleep schedule as a fact.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Sandwolf posted:

Can confirm everyone I know who’s used melatonin had ultimately ended up dependent on it/having a hosed up sleep schedule as a fact.

N-1, I guess. My wife uses it and I occasionally use it. It only disrupted my sleep when I drank then took it.

Cut out drinking and I sleep like a Wayne Rooney, but in a bed.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Cannon_Fodder posted:

N-1, I guess. My wife uses it and I occasionally use it. It only disrupted my sleep when I drank then took it.

Cut out drinking and I sleep like a Wayne Rooney, but in a bed.

It’s entirely possible you use it sparingly and in small enough doses but from what I’ve seen no one has the discipline over long periods of time to respect the magic sleep drug.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Having crazy dreams means you're probably taking way more than you need to. The recommended dose according to my sleep specialist is .5-1mg :eng101:

Yeah the ones I bought recommended 1-3 pills as needed and were 3mg each lol

Mickolution
Oct 1, 2005

Ballers...I put numbers on the boards

Jose posted:

I've got some I ordered online though this is a couple of years ago now. I sleep like poo poo taking it because it gives me such insane dreams I wake up a ton lol

If you're taking it regularly, the dreams stop after a while. Did for me, anyway. They're so loving vivid, though.

Cannon_Fodder posted:

Cut out drinking and I sleep like a Wayne Rooney, but in a bed.

You mean with a hoover running in the room?
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/rooney-reveals-a-bedroom-secret-1035916

Mickolution fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Sep 8, 2021

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013





This is surprisingly common and something I've done before. Other things that have similar effect is a washing machine on spin, rain on a tin roof, etc. There's dedicated sleep apps with all kinds of these white noise type things to help people go off to sleep. His is of course a hilariously low tech way of doing it in 2021.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:

This is surprisingly common and something I've done before. Other things that have similar effect is a washing machine on spin, rain on a tin roof, etc. There's dedicated sleep apps with all kinds of these white noise type things to help people go off to sleep. His is of course a hilariously low tech way of doing it in 2021.

Good thing he was doing it in 2007 then

bradburypancakes
Sep 9, 2014

hmm. hmmmmmmmm
Have you people ever heard of a warm glass of milk?

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
I read a very scientific white paper that jerking off can aid sleepiness.

However if you’re a football player, you must have at least one (1) teammate present for it to work.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Gigi Galli posted:

just
smoke
weed

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/07/health/cannabis-heart-attack-young-adult-study-wellness/index.html

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

sticksy posted:

I read a very scientific white paper that jerking off can aid sleepiness.

However if you’re a football player, you must have at least one (1) teammate present for it to work.

On the other hand, going no fap makes you stronger and faster and gives you more endurance. It also helps your jaw look more manly.

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism


whatever nerd

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Jel Shaker posted:

tramadol during the day and zopiclone during the night would make you pretty much invincible until your hamstring just popped randomly

I was given tramadol after a pretty severe burn accident at work and I slept for 20 hours straight through what had been pretty terrible pain

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

TheRat posted:

I was given tramadol after a pretty severe burn accident at work and I slept for 20 hours straight through what had been pretty terrible pain

All opiates do this.

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1436030351600717828

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Wow another former Man City player who can’t keep his hands off women. Something in the water at the Etihad

Brass Hand
Feb 27, 2020
Totally forgot he played for City

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Eric Cantonese posted:

On the other hand, going no fap makes you stronger and faster and gives you more endurance. It also helps your jaw look more manly.

Get on neck tech

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1436401643050897423?s=19

Owned

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Turns out doing a sexual assault after you've already been arrested for it makes getting bailed out hard

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
Has any journo asked City why he’d been in the squad after his initial arrest?

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

trem_two posted:

Has any journo asked City why he’d been in the squad after his initial arrest?

I'd assume the answer will be that he wasn't charged with anything back then.

ozmunkeh
Feb 28, 2008

hey guys what is happening in this thread

trem_two posted:

Has any journo asked City why he’d been in the squad after his initial arrest?

They didn’t want him in there but he insisted.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

pik_d posted:

I'd assume the answer will be that he wasn't charged with anything back then.

There's a couple of gaps in the reporting but it seems like he was on bail when he was arrested last month - I think you can only be on long-term bail if you've been charged?

e: This Graun article - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/27/benjamin-mendy-footballer-remanded-in-custody-on-charges - specifically says he was on police bail so no he wasn't charged.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Sep 13, 2021

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

ozmunkeh posted:

They didn’t want him in there but he insisted.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
What a dipshit Mendy is to break bail conditions flagrantly enough to allegedly commit another offense like that, he's probably looking at a 5+ year stretch now. Obviously wait for the verdict but he seems like a real monster too, imagine being that evil and hosed up of a person to be finding the need to sexually assault multiple women while having a successful career as a multimillionaire international sportsman. Good riddance.

Strawman
Feb 9, 2008

Tortuga means turtle, and that's me. I take my time but I always win.


Is it still OK for Silva to be a racist because Mendy said so?

Portland
May 5, 2021

Strawman posted:

Is it still OK for Silva to be a racist because Mendy said so?

Silva cannot be racist because he isn’t white.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Portland posted:

Silva cannot be racist because he isn’t white.

This is unironically what idiots have argued to me

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

ilmucche posted:

This is unironically what idiots have argued to me
By "idiots" do you mean Americans?

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Crazy Ted posted:

By "idiots" do you mean Americans?

Crazy Ted, are you familiar with the UK Press?

Tortilla Maker
Dec 13, 2005
Un Desmadre A Toda Madre
Guess this counts:

quote:

Ronnie Brunswijk has been a lot of things over his 60 years. Son of subsistence farmers from one of the poorest regions of one of the poorest nations in the Western Hemisphere. Handpicked bodyguard of a military dictator. A Robin Hood-type character who was convicted of bank robbery and revered for his handouts to the poor. A convicted drug trafficker in two European countries. Father to at least 50 children, according to the New York Times. And, as of last year, vice president of Suriname.

He also is the owner of a soccer team called Inter Moengotapoe, which competes in the top division of Suriname’s professional ranks. And on Tuesday night during an international club match, Brunswijk added a new entry to his résumé: world’s oldest professional soccer player.

Brunswijk inserted himself into Inter Moengotapoe’s starting lineup for Tuesday night’s match against Olimpia of Honduras in the Concacaf League, the second-tier competition for clubs from North and Central America, plus the Caribbean (though located in South America, Surinamese teams do not compete in that continent’s international tournaments). Wearing No. 61, a tribute to his 1961 birth year, he played 54 minutes as a forward alongside his son, Damian, before subbing himself out.

...

After being singled out to attend boarding school at the age of 10, Brunswijk became a paratrooper for the Surinamese army and eventually became the personal bodyguard to military dictator Desiré Bouterse, who assumed control of the tiny South American country in 1980 after a coup. But the two eventually had a falling out over what Brunswijk said was Bouterse’s violent treatment of political opponents, including a community of descendants of enslaved people called Maroons, to which Brunswijk belonged.

Eventually, Brunswijk earned a reputation as a Robin Hood of sorts, stealing funds from the government and giving the money to the poor (in a New York Times article from last year, Brunswijk says criminal charges against him were invented by the Bouterse regime and that he made his money from a gold mine). He eventually led a 1,200-strong rebel army in Suriname’s devastating six-year civil war, from which the country still is recovering three decades later.

Brunswijk also has been accused of using drug trafficking to fund his cause, and in 1999 a Dutch court convicted him in absentia of operating a cocaine-smuggling ring and handed down a six-year prison sentence. One year later, a French court issued a similar conviction. Brunswijk denied any involvement in drug trafficking in last year’s Times story, saying his wealth comes from timber and gold mining established. after the civil war ended in 1992.

Chandrikapersad Santokhi, a former police officer who was tasked with tracking down Brunswijk in the 1980s, became Suriname’s president last year. Brunswijk — who had become a political power player in the country and briefly had been chairman of the country’s National Assembly — was elected vice president after forming a coalition government with Santokhi, becoming the first Maroon person to hold the post.

...

Brunswijk has continued to spread around. his wealth to the impoverished Maroon community while also at one point reportedly buying cars for his entire soccer team. After Tuesday’s match, a shirtless Brunswijk even was seen on video handing out cash to the players on the opposing Olimpia team in their locker room, a questionable bit of generosity that has piqued the interest of Concacaf itself.

“We are extremely concerned at the content of a video circulating on social media which raises potential integrity issues surrounding the Concacaf League match between Inter Moengotapoe and CD Olimpia,” Concacaf said in a statement Wednesday. “The matter is being referred to the Concacaf Disciplinary Committee who will commence a formal investigation and a further update will be provided when that process has concluded.”

...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/09/22/ronnie-brunswijk-suriname-soccer/

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
Yeah "piquing CONCACAF's curiosity" means they just want a cut, too

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
hell of a dispute to end like this

https://twitter.com/FootballlForAll/status/1442585185413832713?s=20

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Former Leverkusen and Fenerbache player Sezer Ozturk has murdered one person and wounded and 4 in a traffic dispute and attempt to become thread champion: https://www.dailysabah.com/sports/football/ex-fenerbahce-besiktas-player-sezer-ozturk-tied-to-fatal-shooting

Edit: This is what I get for typing a wordy description

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sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
How does this rank in the "footballer yikesaroo" scale?

I'd guess just behind that Brazilian keeper who had his ex-wife murdered and fed to dogs, maybe just ahead of Suarez biting a couple fellas.

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