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LesterGroans posted:It is just generally kinda funny that the only surviving member of the main three from the original movies is the only one not coming back. Morpheus is a character that has no purpose in 2 and 3 - he's like if Obi-Wan somehow survived A New Hope and just kinda stood around in the other Star Wars movies. I mean, the Matrix sequels have other faults, but it shows you how the Wachowskis never planned on making sequels to the Matrix because you have lots of strange hanging threads that don't make sense and were kinda shoehorned in. It was cool that he got to fight that Agent in the 2nd one though. I'm not expecting Matrix 4 to be good necessarily, but it will at least be interesting because most everything the Wachowskis do is interesting, even if a good percentage doesn't really land the execution.
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Mike N Eich posted:Morpheus is a character that has no purpose in 2 and 3 - he's like if Obi-Wan somehow survived A New Hope and just kinda stood around in the other Star Wars movies. I mean, the Matrix sequels have other faults, but it shows you how the Wachowskis never planned on making sequels to the Matrix because you have lots of strange hanging threads that don't make sense and were kinda shoehorned in. Yeah and I know the movie has Resurrections in the title but it still stands out that the two who absolutely 100% on screen no ambiguity passed on are the ones in this while the one that didn't die is not.
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I’m loving the theorycrafting we have going on, I’m just positively giddy that there’s a new Matrix movie coming out.
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I just hope this one is as super duper trans and general queer too.
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Sep 9, 2021 06:33
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The problem with the matrix sequels is that the plot drifted away from man vs machine and instead got derailed by agent smith has gone rogue and is gonna take over the matrix! I kinda hate that they even brought him back in the sequels.
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Everyone who has read the leaked script has been saying it’s utterly bonkers and inventive and will probably be quite divisive. I’m awkwardly trying to look for what people are saying about it without any spoilers whatsoever. Extremely dangerous game
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Jimbot posted:I have a theory that's completely off the wall! Well we know what the SNL skit is going to be now!
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Shiroc posted:I just hope this one is as super duper trans and general queer too. If Sense8 is any indication, you should be good. According to the IMDB only one of the Wanchovies is working on this one?
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Maybe Morpheus is dead because Matrix Online is considered canon?teagone posted:Who was Terminator Genisys directed by? Alan Taylor, known for several episodes of Game of Thrones and replacing Patty Jenkins on Thor 2. codo27 posted:If Sense8 is any indication, you should be good. Yes, Lana, with one of the Sense8 writers as co-writer.
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Shiroc posted:I just hope this one is as super duper trans and general queer too. Yeah, every time I watch the original I'm bummed that they didn't get to execute their original Switch idea. I really want to see that pulled off on screen this time around.
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boom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ix7TUGVYIo
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The Jefferson Airplane song is kind of perfect haha
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Very interesting, so yea it does seem that there is a new Morpheus who is out there basically doing what he did before, waking people up and trying to find The One. Makes me wonder if Jada Pinkett-Smith is playing a much younger version of herself that will be CGI'd up to match young Morpheus. As someone who hasn't really followed the production up to this point, it's a bit of a pleasant surprise that Keanu actually seems to be the main character again. I figured he would be more of a side character who would pop up for a few scenes.
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White Rabbit is so painfully on-the-nose here that I cringed a bit when that intro kicked in, not gonna lie
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Sep 9, 2021 14:29
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So if Neo and Trinity are themselves why they have to replace Morpheus and Smith (the most iconic film villain since....?) and whoever else?
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codo27 posted:So if Neo and Trinity are themselves why they have to replace Morpheus and Smith (the most iconic film villain since....?) and whoever else? Lawrence Fishburne's Morpheus canonically died in an alley shooting in a video game, sorry.
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Looks like Neo and Trinity were 'rescued' by the machines after their deaths and put back into the Matrix, so it probably literally is them and they're not computer programs. 
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Necrothatcher posted:Looks like Neo and Trinity were 'rescued' by the machines after their deaths and put back into the Matrix. Makes sense, I guess. The gently caress else you gonna do with the bodies? Let them go to waste? 
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That is a weird trailer. I'm down for whatever crazy poo poo that was. I wonder if general audiences with think that it "doesn't look enough like The Matrix" though.
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Necrothatcher posted:Looks like Neo and Trinity were 'rescued' by the machines after their deaths and put back into the Matrix, so it probably literally is them and they're not computer programs. Great catch, but it doesn't look like his eyes are burnt out.
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Doctor Butts posted:Great catch, but it doesn't look like his eyes are burnt out. I dunno, looks kinda burnt to me  e: 
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Doctor Butts posted:Great catch, but it doesn't look like his eyes are burnt out. I'd say that's impossible to tell from that image.
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Either way, it still makes sense that they are reinserted into the Matrix and hence the Resurrections title.
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Doctor Butts posted:Great catch, but it doesn't look like his eyes are burnt out. maybe the machines gave him an eye transplant
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Give me more - the wait is gonna be unbearable.
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Sep 9, 2021 14:56
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We already know that Neo had some sort of connection to The Source due to his function as The One. It's possible Trinity did too for the same reason, her importance to the prophecy of The One. So they may not be able to "die" in the same way that regular people do.
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Looks interesting at least but I'm hoping they don't hit all the same plot beats they did in Matrix 1. Already seeing a lot of parallels from the trailer but maybe they'll end up taking us in a different direction, don't need another ANH/TFA soft reboot situation.
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Sep 9, 2021 14:57
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Fine... I will watch this new movie. That looked awesome and I'm hyped up already.
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The Glumslinger posted:I remember basically nothing about the third one other than it was terrible, did they ever explain how he stopped the sentinals at the end of the 2nd one? The way I saw it, eventually the simulation became close enough to reality that knowing how to bend the simulation rules translates over seamlessly to bending the rules of reality.
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Sep 9, 2021 14:59
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About 5 seconds in I realized there was very little I needed to be super hyped for this. I wish Keanu didn't have the beard to make this feel a little less like John Wick in the Matrix but it's nothing I'm super passionate about.
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Marx Headroom posted:The way I saw it, eventually the simulation became close enough to reality that knowing how to bend the simulation rules translates over seamlessly to bending the rules of reality. It's because of the connection Neo has to The Source that I mentioned above. He has something in him that is kind of like a wi-fi connection to all the machines, because the machines are connected to The Source.
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Tsietisin posted:Fine... I will watch this new movie. That looked awesome and I'm hyped up already. Same, I just hope they don't try to explain everything this time, that screwed up the sequels because the premise of the first film is so philosophically strange you're not gonna write your way out of that unless you're Philip K. Dick.
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Remember when we were all coming up with complex, universe-fitting, theories about how it was possible that Neo could control machines outside of the matrix at the end of Matrix 2, and it turned out that it was because Neo is magic? That's happening again right now. The Matrix franchise has only one good entry across all media, and that one good entry is the original movie. I would have been excited for this if there was a different director involved, but seeing a Wachowski involved means that nobody has learned anything, and that this movie is going to keep sliding down the same path that the franchise is already on.
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The Dave posted:About 5 seconds in I realized there was very little I needed to be super hyped for this. This is kinda where I'm at. It's the Matrix. Even when it's bad, it's still the motherfucking Matrix.
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The Human Crouton posted:
You don't think The Second Renaissance or Beyond are good? Insane.
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Whatever filmmaking faults the 2nd and 3rd films had were made up by Speed Racer. Those films felt like they needed more time to bake in the oven and I think 20 years is a pretty good amount of time for an idea to percolate into something decent. I'm picking up what they're putting down with that trailer.
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One thing that surprised me the most with this trailer is how good everything looks. The lighting and cinematography is so different from what they went for in the originals but still looks good. I'm interested in seeing this. One of my favorite things going into the first Matrix was having no idea what was happening. Like I had no idea it was about being in a computer generated world so I totally bought into the What is the Matrix tag. This isn't quite there for me but I'm excited about the questions I have. And the fact that it looks good makes me interested in finding out.
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The Human Crouton posted:The Matrix franchise has only one good entry across all media, and that one good entry is the original movie. patently false. all matrix franchise non-video game media is good.
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Shard posted:One thing that surprised me the most with this trailer is how good everything looks. The lighting and cinematography is so different from what they went for in the originals but still looks good. I'm interested in seeing this. Add me to the list of 'people who went into The Matrix in 1999 knowing almost nothing about it' and being blown away. "Something to do with virtual reality?" was as much as I had. Absolutely the best way to see it for the first time.
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