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Rinkles posted:Are you calling Deluge a FoF? 4 mana look at 4 cards draw 2 of them is 1 card less than FoF
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quote:Modal cards are nice and all but this second mode sucks.
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Sampatrick posted:4 mana look at 4 cards draw 2 of them is 1 card less than FoF It doesn't involve skill-testing pile splitting decisions. It's not very much like FoF beyond being an instant and putting cards into your hand.
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Jabor posted:It doesn't involve skill-testing pile splitting decisions. It's not very much like FoF beyond being an instant and putting cards into your hand. It's a 4 mana instant card draw spell that looks at almost the same number of cards as FoF, of which you choose two to put in your hand. It's not the same card but it absolutely is very similar in actual functionality.
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Jabor posted:It doesn't involve skill-testing pile splitting decisions. It's not very much like FoF beyond being an instant and putting cards into your hand. It's going to be a 4 of in every blue deck in standard the way FoF was though.
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It's not FoF but it's definitely the closest thing we've gotten in power level since then and I'm really happy to see it. Strong instant draw is a very underappreciated piece of what allows control decks to function well.
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mikeraskol posted:I'm really annoyed at how bad new Teferi is. The +1 and -2 are loving worthless. It's cool in EDH! But ya he stinks
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Shrecknet posted:I don't really care that Sphere of Annihilation is basically a better version of this that already sees no play, that name and art is just Sphere oh annihilation is a one time effect you play when you need more shadow verdict. This is an grind machine that sticks around and wins you the game.
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Shrecknet posted:I don't really care that Sphere of Annihilation is basically a better version of this that already sees no play, that name and art is just A weakish blood artist effect that can wrath in a pinch is worth testing in sac decks. I've been playing a lot of GB citadel and I'd have loved a -2/-2 effect in a few games.
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Sampatrick posted:It's a 4 mana instant card draw spell that looks at almost the same number of cards as FoF, of which you choose two to put in your hand. It's not the same card but it absolutely is very similar in actual functionality. Right, but so are all the other 4-mana instant draw-2s with extra selection plus a tie-in with the set mechanic, like Glimmer of Genius, Behold the Multiverse, and Contact Other Plane. Is seeing all four cards when you're making the scry decision better than only seeing the first two? For sure yes, but it's not such a huge buff that it makes this particular one comparable to FoF in a way that the others weren't. Jabor fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Yeah, it seems very much like a zombie stalemate breaker.
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Jabor posted:Right, but so are all the other 4-mana instant draw-2s with extra selection plus a tie-in with the set mechanic, like Glimmer of Genius, Behold the Multiverse, and Contact Other Plane. Is seeing all four cards when you're making the scry decision better than only seeing the first two? For sure yes, but it's not such a huge buff that it makes this particular one comparable to FoF in a way that the others weren't. I mean, imo it absolutely is that big of a difference, yes.
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An old planeswalker deck isn’t worth much, is it? I’m thinking of using the Dominaria Teferi deck as a fidget toy while I’m watching lectures this semester.
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!Klams posted:Am I alone in thinking that werewolves are really boring? I'm in the opposite camp, I find vampires kind of boring, but werewolves are my favorite of the classic monsters because they have SO MUCH history. Every culture has folktales of humans that turn into animals, vice-versa, and human-animal hybrids. But that does play into the point you're making here, which is that I think for werewolves to really hit in these sets, Wizards should take a broader approach with other were-animals, or maybe even other non-European versions of these types of creatures. It would be more interesting than the standard Hollywood "wolfman" that most pop-culture werewolves are.
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Jabor posted:Is seeing all four cards when you're making the scry decision better than only seeing the first two? For sure yes, but it's not such a huge buff that it makes this particular one comparable to FoF in a way that the others weren't. I think this is where people disagree with you.
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mikeraskol posted:I'm really annoyed at how bad new Teferi is. The +1 and -2 are loving worthless. I kinda disagree, the plus seems quite strong imo. It's pretty narrow, but it can generate an absolute gently caress ton of mana on the plus. It's just a weird role for a UW Planeswalker to fill.
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HootTheOwl posted:
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Jabor posted:It doesn't involve skill-testing pile splitting decisions. It's not very much like FoF beyond being an instant and putting cards into your hand. And it doesn’t even dump the rest in the yard
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Sep 9, 2021 17:55
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Thing in the Ice dragon looking pretty rad.
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Huxley posted:Thing in the Ice dragon looking pretty rad. Thing in the egg
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how long until the whole set is spoiled? need to inject the limited set reviews into my veins
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Lmao they could have just said Instant Foresee but nah
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Shrecknet posted:I don't really care that Sphere of Annihilation is basically a better version of this that already sees no play, that name and art is just Even if you don't get much value out of the effect on future turns, a black sweeper that potentially gains you some life sounds really sweet in some matchups
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Shrecknet posted:I don't really care that Sphere of Annihilation is basically a better version of this that already sees no play, that name and art is just Did you miss the part where Sphere takes an entire turn to do anything? That's why it's unplayable.
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Seems like a stretch for blue, no? Whyyyy is this a rare lol? And sorcery speed??
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babypolis posted:how long until the whole set is spoiled? need to inject the limited set reviews into my veins Mythic spoiler says there's still 70 cards left so I would expect that there's going to be more cards than spoilers (which end today. Commander start the 13th) so your have to wait for the full set reveal which I would expect tomorrow at 10ish central time.
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I'm with Jabor, it's really weird to call that a FoF when it's a very good variant of the blue instant 4 mana draw 2 that we've gotten a million times since. The piles are an essential piece of FoF. Memory Deluge is the best, at least for Standard, between the dig and the flashback.    Sunrise Cavalier 1RW Creature - Human Knight Trample, haste If it is neither day nor night, it becomes day as Sunrise Cavalier enters the battlefield. Whenever day becomes night or night becomes day, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. 3/3     
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fadam posted:
It's a reprint from MBS, of a phyrexian card which tend to stretch into black a little.
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Lone Goat posted:It's a reprint from MBS, of a phyrexian card which tend to stretch into black a little. Oh cool ty
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Just thought about Winota rotating out again and wondering if WOTC ever unbans things because they're not overbearing anymore. Bloodbraid Elf took like 5 years to get unbanned, right?
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this one is sweet as hell imo. will probably end up being my favorite card from the set.
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Deathbonnet Sprout could easily be a Standard enabler if the rest of the deck is there.
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fadam posted:
This card is so bad and bizarre that I have to think it was a late minute change on something busted Like this isn’t even good for a common….for one mana!
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 Tovolar's Huntmaster 4GG Creature - Human Werewolf When it enters the battlefield, create 2 2/2 green wolves. Daybound 6/6 //// Tovolar's Packleader Creature - Werewolf When it enters the battlefield or attacks, create two 2/2 wolves 2GG: Another target wolf or werewolf you control fights target creature you don't control Nightbound 7/7
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