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Douche Wolf 89 posted:Was watching Simpsons and s8 e12 came on, the one where Marge finds a Chanel suit and joins the country club. On the way to the Ogdenville outlet store, there's a callback to Ogdenville appearing near Califormia on Lyle Lanley's map which also serves as a "Springfield isn't in any discernable place" gag: a sign that says "Paved Road ends 64 miles", then "Former Japanese Internment Camp 90 miles", then "Ogdenville 277 miles". Most likely this is just a reference to the Japanese internment camps all being way out in the middle of nowhere. I don't think it aged badly so much as it never worked well in the first place unless you lived in Southern California (Manzanar was a historic site by then).
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flatluigi posted:okay, seriously, holy poo poo why is everyone in here seriously acting like 'not wanting to be spoilered' is some Gay Agenda style conspiracy theory. nobody's trying to kill the concept of discussing media at all lmao It depends if you're one of the people who think spoilers about literal advertisements are big deal, I guess. It definitely gets pretty annoying in video game communities.
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Sep 9, 2021 05:16
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Tiggum posted:Who gives a gently caress? Why let the people who consider inconsequential details "spoilers" quash all discussion of media for everyone forever? gently caress 'em. I mean, in my situation it's less that I was advised to be as vague as possible and more told to choose my words carefully because "hey, the movie/show/whatever you're reviewing treats the particular thing you just mentioned as a secret for first time viewers, so maybe don't give that away as part of your synopsis". I don't disagree with the notion that I shouldn't let a listener's negative reaction be a reason to not discuss something but in my case the format of an episode is to introduce the media to the audience and give a brief overview for the sake of those who haven't seen it or even heard of it before and then give them a chance to stop listening if they want to go check it out before my friend and I dive into themes and narratives that are, by their nature, major spoilers. My original comment was more that I am so involved in the stuff I talk about that I'm not aware of how even saying which actor plays which character might ruin a narrative surprise for a first time viewer, sort of like what started this whole conversation to begin with, and my co-host has helped me be better about that
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Sep 9, 2021 05:42
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hawowanlawow posted:I loved frisky dingo, but didn't really like Archer. Archer was definitely going for broader appeal, and did that by just heaping on more dick jokes I think Frisky Dingo feels more natural because it wasn't a huge production and the voice cast basically wrote the episodes. The inside jokes that develop over the course of the show seem natural probably because they were actual inside jokes. IIRC, Mr. Ford was the landlord of their building when they were working on FD, and they added him as a character because they thought it was funny. Apparently the dude liked it enough to come back and voice a cameo in Archer, so hey. (Also, the literary geek in me still thinks Antagone is the best supervillain name by far)
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rodbeard posted:True Lies sucked and the stunt coordinator molested the child actress playing the daughter nobody even remembers being in the movie. Eliza Dushku? EDIT: Just checked google. That's loving horrible 
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Sep 9, 2021 07:02
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nonathlon posted:If you think about True Lies at all while you're watching it, it's a crappy movie. Man neglects his wife, she gets unhappy, he entraps her. The villains are comically ineffectual to that point that it didn't seem like a fair fight. Our hero solves it all with overkill via a jet fighter in the end. Wife is happy now she knows her husband is a professional killer, because it's more interesting? Family stays together. It's the story of a man who is awesome badass, but other people don't know that, but belatedly come to agree. When I watched True Lies couple of years ago it was a weird experience. Yes, it is a comedy, but it was sometimes hard to figure out what I'm supposed to laugh at. Ok, car salesman is a sleazeball, funny. Arnie mindfucks and tortures him just for kicks? Played like a joke, so ha ha, I guess?
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Sep 9, 2021 07:28
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Khizan posted:Archer has largely avoided aging poorly because the show was always well aware that the characters were all horrible people and it always treated them as such. There's not a lot of "How did they think that was acceptable?" stuff because it obviously wasn't acceptable and you weren't meant to think that it was.
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Sep 9, 2021 07:43
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Fish of hemp posted:When I watched True Lies couple of years ago it was a weird experience. Yes, it is a comedy, but it was sometimes hard to figure out what I'm supposed to laugh at. He pissed himself also.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Eliza Dushku? I remembered Dushku being in the movie but never heard about the abuse. Of course Dushku is best known now for her work with Joss Whedon. Woman can't catch a break.
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Sep 9, 2021 09:13
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Jedit posted:I remembered Dushku being in the movie but never heard about the abuse. Also she got fired from a show Bull when she went public with harrasment she suffered from Michael Weatherly. If she ever decides to burn entire show business down to ground, no one could ever blame her.
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Sep 9, 2021 09:45
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Gervasius posted:Also she got fired from a show Bull when she went public with harrasment she suffered from Michael Weatherly. CBS settled with her and still kept that show on the air a decision that just ages badly from the start. I am glad she semi-retired and moved back home because she seems way happier if social media is to be believed.
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Sep 9, 2021 12:35
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In Willow at one point they are literally saved and escape the bad guys because of one dude's weaponized gay panic at having sexually harassed Val Kilmer in a dress.
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Sep 9, 2021 12:54
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Mooseontheloose posted:CBS settled with her and still kept that show on the air a decision that just ages badly from the start. I am glad she semi-retired and moved back home because she seems way happier if social media is to be believed. They settled by paying her something north of $20 million, that's absolutely "semi-retire" money for someone who's not clearing 7 figgie movie paychecks. Micheal Weatherly got a studio babysitter to follow him around and make sure he didn't continue harassing women. pentyne has a new favorite as of 13:10 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Sep 9, 2021 13:07
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Fish of hemp posted:When I watched True Lies couple of years ago it was a weird experience. Yes, it is a comedy, but it was sometimes hard to figure out what I'm supposed to laugh at. That's a good way of describing it. Like it has the shape and form of a comedy and you can imagine a different version where the jokes are more clearly jokes and less "I'm going to mess with you because I can". I recollect it was based on a French film and I wonder if that played out differently or if it was just ... very French
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Sep 9, 2021 13:41
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I don't really watch television any more so when people started talking about an awful CBS show where the lead harasses women my brain immediately went to Shark, a James Woods vehicle that apparently was mercy killed by the writers strike in 2007.
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NorgLyle posted:I don't really watch television any more so when people started talking about an awful CBS show where the lead harasses women my brain immediately went to Shark, a James Woods vehicle that apparently was mercy killed by the writers strike in 2007. Bull was like 95% the same show, I think.
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Sep 9, 2021 13:55
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So it was a Bull Shark?
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pentyne posted:They settled by paying her something north of $20 million, that's absolutely "semi-retire" money for someone who's not clearing 7 figgie movie paychecks. Weird amount of studio babysitters out there
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Sep 9, 2021 15:19
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:In Willow at one point they are literally saved and escape the bad guys because of one dude's weaponized gay panic at having sexually harassed Val Kilmer in a dress. You could just as easily read it as Llug realizing his wife was cheating on him, though.
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Sep 9, 2021 15:21
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Khizan posted:Archer has largely avoided aging poorly because the show was always well aware that the characters were all horrible people and it always treated them as such. There's not a lot of "How did they think that was acceptable?" stuff because it obviously wasn't acceptable and you weren't meant to think that it was. Well, other than ISIS.
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Sep 9, 2021 16:24
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Phylodox posted:You could just as easily read it as Llug realizing his wife was cheating on him, though. Dunno I'm prob not gonna give the man in dress joke much leeway.
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Sep 9, 2021 16:29
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hallo spacedog posted:Well, other than ISIS. And not really like you can blame them for that. (the name is a reference to an ancient Egyptian goddess, hence their rival being ODIN)
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Sep 9, 2021 16:37
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Obama was an Archer fan which is why he was trying to hard to get ISIL to catch on.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Weird amount of studio babysitters out there It would be nice if we lived in a world where the abuser was the one fired, rather than the victim. But that's just crazy talk.
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Sep 9, 2021 17:41
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Gervasius posted:Also she got fired from a show Bull when she went public with harrasment she suffered from Michael Weatherly. I'm still confused that anyone gave enough of a poo poo about Dr Phil to make a multi-season tv show based on his early career
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Sep 9, 2021 17:51
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And not really like you can blame them for that. (the name is a reference to an ancient Egyptian goddess, hence their rival being ODIN) Oh definitely, just in light of the subsequent events it has aged poorly.
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My two cents on the Isis name change : This feels like its a exec or some other suit worrying that the LCD public is soooooooooooooo god drat stupid that they think that a single word or name is always the same THING. You dont have to hand it to a broken clock.
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PhazonLink posted:My two cents on the Isis name change : This feels like its a exec or some other suit worrying that the LCD public is soooooooooooooo god drat stupid that they think that a single word or name is always the same THING. It's the name of a terrorist organization dude
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hallo spacedog posted:Well, other than ISIS. So basically, the problem is phrasing? 
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PhazonLink posted:My two cents on the Isis name change : This feels like its a exec or some other suit worrying that the LCD public is soooooooooooooo god drat stupid that they think that a single word or name is always the same THING. It wasn't just Archer, tbf - the blowback was bad enough to convince critically-acclaimed seminal post-metal band Isis to also change their name for reunion shows. People get poo poo for having named their cats Isis. We live in a stupid world.
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PhazonLink posted:My two cents on the Isis name change : This feels like its a exec or some other suit worrying that the LCD public is soooooooooooooo god drat stupid that they think that a single word or name is always the same THING. But like, people ARE that stupid. I just learned a great example the other day. Some time back when, evidently, A&W introduced a 1/3 pound burger and priced it the same as McDonald's Quarter-pounder and featured that fact prominently in their marketing for it, and it failed, and the reason was that people are idiots and thought they would be getting a smaller burger because 3 is a smaller number than 4. I wonder sometimes if movie and TV execs put too little faith in the media-consuming public as well, but I mean, the numbers speak for themselves, assuming you can read them, which most people can't. ReidRansom has a new favorite as of 19:34 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Sep 9, 2021 19:31
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Khizan posted:Archer has largely avoided aging poorly because the show was always well aware that the characters were all horrible people and it always treated them as such. There's not a lot of "How did they think that was acceptable?" stuff because it obviously wasn't acceptable and you weren't meant to think that it was. it probably helps that Archer had a long-running gag about the show's timeline being impossible to pin down from the start
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I've gotten multiple people to watch Archer just by showing them that first-season scene where they're trying to defuse a bomb, something that in a Mission Impossible movie would take thirty seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNYMQpcqscA
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Fun fact: that scene served as the inspiration for Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes. No, seriously.
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And speaking of Archer, this new season and the last one have really felt kinda back on form. It was losing its way for a while there. But I guess with Jessica Walter gone now (and I feel like Aisha Tyler has sounded a bit rough in places, though that may have been down to an altered recording process back in the peak of the pandemic last year? Iunno), they're probably going to be wrapping up soon.
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AceOfFlames posted:Fun fact: that scene served as the inspiration for Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes. No, seriously. That's perfect, thank you for this information.
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ReidRansom posted:A&W introduced a 1/3 pound burger and priced it the same as McDonald's Quarter-pounder and featured that fact prominently in their marketing for it, and it failed, and the reason was that people are idiots and thought they would be getting a smaller burger because 3 is a smaller number than 4. This explains why the 1/2 pounder is so unpopular.
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The "Idiots thought the 1/3 pounder burger was smaller" story is probably a myth. The primary support for it is the then-head of A&W, who claimed that half of the customers in a market survey gave that response. He also claimed that customers vastly preferred the "superior" A&W's patty, while most blind taste tests found little difference. No third party evidence to support the claim has ever been found. The simple fact is that A&Ws has never been more than a middleweight in the saturated burger market, while McDonald's is and always has been the reigning emperor. Competing against them is very hard.
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Tell us you don't live in Canada without saying you don't live in Canada:Gnoman posted:The "Idiots thought the 1/3 pounder burger was smaller" story is probably a myth. The primary support for it is the then-head of A&W, who claimed that half of the customers in a market survey gave that response. He also claimed that customers vastly preferred the "superior" A&W's patty, while most blind taste tests found little difference. No third party evidence to support the claim has ever been found.
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:Tell us you don't live in Canada without saying you don't live in Canada: Yeah I was thinking the same thing, you'd have to be insane to turn down A&W for McDonalds. (For people who don't know, Canadian A&W is a completely different chain in all but name and some minor branding details.)
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