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sad to see such petty quarrels among canadian posters while the michaels are out there in chinese dungeons, suffering
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Sep 10, 2021 19:46
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i think a lot of their craft stuff is overpriced honestly
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Sep 10, 2021 19:47
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they don't sell dildos eh? i'm thinking of spencers?
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Sep 10, 2021 19:48
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Please, Mr. Collapse is my father, call me Brink
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Sep 10, 2021 21:11
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ToxicAcne posted:Why are workers so conservative in Canada? I've came the slow and horrifying realization throughout my early 20s that immigrants in particular just love the suburban middle class life. It's so disheartening. Canada has always been deeply conservative, our healthcare system is an anomaly created during a brief window of opportunity and you know how well it’s been nurtured over the years. You might be surprised by how many public servants actually care deeply about ‘balancing the budget’ and cutting taxes, far more so than they care about indigenous or LGBTQ rights or expansions of social programs aimed at alleviating some of the horrific realities of poverty. We aren’t actually a more progressive people and culture than America’s, our far right simply isn’t as visibly and cartoonishly insane.
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Sep 10, 2021 21:14
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Wheeee posted:our far right simply isn’t as visibly and cartoonishly insane. ahem *points at balls breathing guy*
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Sep 10, 2021 21:24
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our healthcare system isnt even especially socialist in anyway anymore. most hospitals are run as charities at an arms length from the government and clinics are all privately owned SMALL BUSINESSES. the government is mostly just acting as an insurance companies and all the important decision making is passed off to neoliberal corps like kpmg
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Sep 10, 2021 21:29
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:ahem *points at balls breathing guy* Until balls breathing guy gets elected PM, it's not quite the same lol
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Sep 10, 2021 21:33
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DariusLikewise posted:our healthcare system isnt even especially socialist in anyway anymore. most hospitals are run as charities at an arms length from the government and clinics are all privately owned SMALL BUSINESSES. the government is mostly just acting as an insurance companies and all the important decision making is passed off to neoliberal corps like kpmg Yeah every single healthcare related thing I've gone to has been a private company that happens to be covered by my partners insurance provided by her job. Canada's healthcare is a joke.
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DariusLikewise posted:our healthcare system isnt even especially socialist in anyway anymore. most hospitals are run as charities at an arms length from the government and clinics are all privately owned SMALL BUSINESSES. the government is mostly just acting as an insurance companies and all the important decision making is passed off to neoliberal corps like kpmg yup our healthcare system is a god drat dumpster fire that people only tolerate because the only basis of comparison in most people’s minds is america
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Sep 10, 2021 21:34
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https://twitter.com/EKOSResearch/status/1436298954367438851 dunno about these pollsters but PPC seems to be rising? and ppc+cons are supported by nearly half of canadian 18-34 year olds ??
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Sep 10, 2021 21:41
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Evergreen song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8a4fGbkbSY The poor, they got no money... The poor, they're always sick.
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Sep 10, 2021 21:45
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:ahem *points at balls breathing guy* That would be Sen. Ballbreathingguy (R) if he was American.
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Sep 10, 2021 21:45
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Receiving my Order of Canada for discovering and sharing my cum retention practices with the world
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Sep 10, 2021 21:48
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mila kunis posted:https://twitter.com/EKOSResearch/status/1436298954367438851 yeah that's kinda terrifying. about as many purported ppc as ndp voters 
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Sep 10, 2021 21:49
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mediaphage posted:yeah that's kinda terrifying. about as many purported ppc as ndp voters Oops. Looks like radicalization
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Sep 10, 2021 21:51
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ToxicAcne posted:Why are workers so conservative in Canada? I've came the slow and horrifying realization throughout my early 20s that immigrants in particular just love the suburban middle class life. It's so disheartening. Most immigrants (barring refugees and temp workers) originate from middle-upper classes in their countries 
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Sep 10, 2021 21:57
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yeah and if you talk to, for example, middle class indians, espescially in the Modi era, about their politics a lot of them will probably give you a very nasty surprise
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Sep 10, 2021 22:03
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National polls are totally useless. The polls from the voters in the 20-30 ridings in play are the only polls that matter.
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Sep 10, 2021 22:25
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they're useful as a gauge of whats happening in the country, not as to what'll be the final electoral result in our lovely electoral system
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Sep 10, 2021 22:26
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Re: working class I know a few union brothers who constitute the fabled tory-dipper swing vote; depending on whether labor issues or cultural bugaboos are more prominent (and thus a conscious concern) in an election cycle Union brass usually supports jobs no matter what, so they will drum up support for things like pipelines but also free trade protests In conclusion, we are a land of contrasts Re: the PeePees polled well last time too, and even mad Max couldn't win a seat. let's wait until election day before we cum
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Sep 10, 2021 22:34
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Blood Boils posted:let's wait...before we cum no
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Sep 10, 2021 22:37
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skewetoo posted:Oops. Looks like radicalization Too bad there's no radical left party to balance things out
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Sep 10, 2021 22:39
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the communist party of canada exists, but this country is full of small c-conservatives so left radicalization isn't really a thing.
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Sep 10, 2021 22:40
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mila kunis posted:the communist party of canada exists, but this country is full of small c-conservatives so left radicalization isn't really a thing. by comparison here's the latest poll in norway, average polls for september v. the last election. (R: communists, SV: socialists, MDG: the greens, Ap: labour, Sp: centre, V: libs, KrF: christians, H: cons, Frp: "progressives" (they're pretty right wing i believe), A: others)  commies seem to be be gaining a lot more support there
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Sep 10, 2021 22:44
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thehoodie posted:Too bad there's no radical left party to balance things out There's actually two! Nakula Das, you must bust
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Sep 10, 2021 22:44
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the one advantage of canada is if you were to somehow pull together a leftwing party with a broad base of voters, you only need like 35% of the vote to get a majority and rule like a god-king for the next 4 years.
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Sep 10, 2021 22:44
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Dreylad posted:the one advantage of canada is if you were to somehow pull together a leftwing party with a broad base of voters, you only need like 35% of the vote to get a majority and rule like a god-king for the next 4 years. the hard part is finding a way to stop the factionalist circular firing squad long enough to pull said party together
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Sep 10, 2021 22:47
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Dreylad posted:the one advantage of canada is if you were to somehow pull together a leftwing party with a broad base of voters, you only need like 35% of the vote to get a majority and rule like a god-king for the next 4 years. RIP Jack Layton. He had a chance.
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Sep 10, 2021 22:48
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jack layton was the ndp's tony blair lol
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Sep 10, 2021 22:49
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mila kunis posted:jack layton was the ndp's tony blair lol My memory of him is positive... what am I not remembering about him that makes him also terrible actually? That was so long ago I only remember telling my dad that no, he isn't Hitler.
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Sep 10, 2021 22:52
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Kazinsal posted:the hard part is finding a way to stop the factionalist circular firing squad long enough to pull said party together yeah it's unrealistic, but the other good thing about our confederated system is you can do quite a bit to effect change on the provincial level if you can get into power.
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:My memory of him is positive... what am I not remembering about him that makes him also terrible actually? That was so long ago I only remember telling my dad that no, he isn't Hitler. https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/jack-layton-is-the-ndps-third-rail This is a good summary. He's responsible for dragging the NDP to the centre but for some reason there's a mythical cult built around him so you can't mention that. Hardcore dippers usually get really quiet or mad when I point that out.
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ToxicAcne posted:https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/jack-layton-is-the-ndps-third-rail Ah, I was clearly not as attentive in my 20s when the NDP swerved centre to get those votes. Jesus, just realizing how idealistic I used to be makes me shudder. Cynicism is mostly born from reality smashing an idealistic person and politics is really good at doing that.
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Yeah man I've grown to be extremely cynical in the past year. I wonder if this is how those 60s radicals felt when all was said and done. Edit: In all honesty, Tom Mulcair was just a less charismatic Layton. ToxicAcne has issued a correction as of 23:37 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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Sep 10, 2021 23:34
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i remember layton being popular because he was very anti war
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Dreylad posted:the one advantage of canada is if you were to somehow pull together a leftwing party with a broad base of voters, you only need like 35% of the vote to get a majority and rule like a god-king for the next 4 years. This, like fallout, would lead to annexation/occupation by the US. The only difference is there it was weird commie Albertan SoCreds
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DariusLikewise posted:i remember layton being popular because he was very anti war He dropped that from the NDP platform to satiate the liberals when the coalition talks were going on.
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