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twistedmentat posted:Yea but that was something that was pre existing that they acquired, both New Warriors and Rocketteer were made by Disney. I also miss why him being screwed over by Fox has any bearing on the discussion. Are you suggesting that Disney does not hold the rights to a piece of music made for one of their films? Holding the right doesn't necessarily mean they can use it without paying people.
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Norwegian Rudo posted:Holding the right doesn't necessarily mean they can use it without paying people. I find it hard to believe Disney would not own the rights to every single thing they ever made. I may be wrong and Horner owns to the rights to every movie score he did but this is Disney.
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twistedmentat posted:I find it hard to believe Disney would not own the rights to every single thing they ever made. I may be wrong and Horner owns to the rights to every movie score he did but this is Disney. they still can't make a Hulk solo movie without having to pay out to Universal I don't know think it'd be surprising if they had other dumb copyright/contract issues that said considering Intrada Records reissued the Rocketeer soundtrack after Horner died I don't think there's a rights issue Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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twistedmentat posted:I find it hard to believe Disney would not own the rights to every single thing they ever made. I may be wrong and Horner owns to the rights to every movie score he did but this is Disney. The whole point of that article was that companies have to pay fair market price for things within their catalogue when they "sell" the rights to other parts of the company to use certain things, due to the fact that people who have back end participation/royalties for work otherwise get screwed when their stuff is reused. Disney doesn't have to worry about Disney saying No to using something, but they can't just do it for free, and they may not be willing to pay the cost to do so.
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That. Plus I'm guessing if they used Rocketeer for one scene they didn't stop there and there's more music that would need to be cleaned out or paid for.
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Blockhouse posted:they still can't make a Hulk solo movie without having to pay out to Universal I don't know think it'd be surprising if they had other dumb copyright/contract issues Marvel sold the movie rights to them during their almost going out of business sale, so again the rights exist with someone else. And I'm just basing my knowlage of this from the many, many simpsons writers interviews that I've listened to and read and they always say that if Fox owned it, then they could use it without any issues. Unlike when they wanted to use something that wasn't owned by Fox they had to go through all kinds of hoops, and Fox Lawyers would always say "can you just use something we already own?". It isn't exactly proof but I find it hard to believe that Disney produced film themes are some kind of complex rights issue for a modern disney production to use. Anyways, I realized that it was probably just a temp track they used from the Disney library and a finished show would have probably had its own score so all this is moot. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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Sep 10, 2021 17:48
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twistedmentat posted:Marvel sold the movie rights to them during their almost going out of business sale, so again the rights exist with someone else. Disney could use it, but they'd have to pay royalties to the people responsible for the music, so it may be cheaper for them to do something else. Studios used to get around this in the past by paying themselves $1 to use the music, and then the royalty owner would get fractions of a cent, which is the whole point of the X-Files lawsuit that was linked earlier. It was a big issue again within the last couple of years with studios "selling" their catalogue to their own streaming service for peanuts, and the back end participants of that media getting nothing compared to if the content had been sold to Netflix or whatever. Many lawsuits were had and the practice is no longer as cut-and-dry for the studios.
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Seems really weird who they do and don't get for voice work on What If. I'm sure it's a contract thing but just seems kind of arbitrary.
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Retro Futurist posted:Seems really weird who they do and don't get for voice work on What If. I'm sure it's a contract thing but just seems kind of arbitrary. I'd guess some contracts didn't cover voice work and some did.
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Yeah, like Holland of all people must have been down but maybe they have to "rent" him from Sony so it's only worth it for Avengers movies, I don't know. Also is it just me or was Cumberbatch's performance bad? Like I just assumed it was a sound-alike because the dude was loving Smaug.
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Sep 11, 2021 02:11
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I thought he was the best voice actor of any returning character by a fairly wide margin.
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Yeah, he did a great job in that episode. Bettany was really good too, but that's not a surprise when you remember he did voices for the films until he became Vision. I don't think anyone's really been bad. Stan wasn't great the first episode but was much better in this recent one. But I thought Dominic Cooper was really bad too in that he was hamming it up a lot more, so I'm gonna say that the voice direction for that episode wasn't the best.
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I thought Benedict Waistband's acting was good, but his American accent was still as "Okay, this is non-American man acting playing an American in a piece of media" as it's ever been, which is to say significantly so
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OnimaruXLR posted:I thought Benedict Waistband's acting was good, but his American accent was still as "Okay, this is non-American man acting playing an American in a piece of media" as it's ever been, which is to say significantly so I have to regularly remind myself that Dr Strange is American, but to be honest I have to do that when reading him in comic books too, same with Emma Frost. I want a cartoon or something with Emma Frost using the same accent Matt Damon uses in The Departed. Dr Strange sounds like De Niro in Taxi Driver.
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She should have like a total throwback Midatlantic accent, and then you do the flashback origin episode where she's Rachel Dratch from the SNL Boston skits.
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Sgt. Politeness posted:So they're definitely doing follow up zombies episode right? Like that ending might as well have had a To Be Continued... on it. I mean, there's not really anywhere to pick up from there, is there? A legless Black Panther, the head of Ant-Man, Spider-Man, and a cape aren't going to be enough to stop Zombie Thanos. I can't imagine a follow-up being anything more than 'Thanos destroys our heroes, gets the Mind Stone, gg universe', y'know?
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Vandar posted:I mean, there's not really anywhere to pick up from there, is there? The only real question from there is whether Thanos somehow retains enough of himself to follow through with his original plan plus maybe wiping out the zombie plague or snaps himself an endless supply of people to eat.
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Vandar posted:I mean, there's not really anywhere to pick up from there, is there? There's still more out there. Thor and the Guardians, and Thor with Stormbreaker could still very likely save the day. Also Eternals will have been out, so if they ever get to season 2, they could possibly add them to any number of stories.
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Skwirl posted:I have to regularly remind myself that Dr Strange is American, but to be honest I have to do that when reading him in comic books too, same with Emma Frost. I figure he's put on some fake-rear end upper crust accent like Jacob Rees-Mogg.
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Codependent Poster posted:There's still more out there. Okay yeah fair, I completely forgot about Thor. EDIT: Actually wait no. Thor got to Wakanda before Thanos, so if Zombie Thanos is there hanging out, then that probably means Thor already got hosed. Vandar fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Sep 11, 2021 |
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Sep 11, 2021 20:01
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Tbh I would rather them keep coming up with new scenarios than revisiting a bunch of stuff
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I think it'd be pretty cool if they like, held a vote for their fans which episode they would most like to see a continuation of, and made a series based on the winner.
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I'm kind of hoping they use it to springboard stuff in the future, like use the multiverse aspect to bring in mutants or something. Be a solid use of Exiles too
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Aphrodite posted:She should have like a total throwback Midatlantic accent, and then you do the flashback origin episode where she's Rachel Dratch from the SNL Boston skits. I always imagined Frost getting really upset with Hank or Scott or someone and just completely lose her normal upper crust accent and start screaming like some Southie.
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Vandar posted:Okay yeah fair, I completely forgot about Thor. Remember Thanos got held up by Iron Man/Strange/Spidey/Guardians and that is not the case here. He likely waltzed down and grabbed Time Stone from Strange's dead corpse and then made his way to Wakanda. With the Time Stone he would have known that was where it was going to be. Somewhere along the way he got zombied though.
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In my defense I totally misinterpreted the ending scene when I originally watched it. For some reason I thought the zombies against the force field were outside of Wakanda and that Wakanda was still safe like they thought and that the Thanos reveal was like their future/what was coming next. I didn't even realize the Thanos shot was even Wakanda (I guess I wasn't paying attention at all) For the record, I've never cared about Marvel Zombies stuff and wasn't neccesarily itching for a follow up episode to this one but something made me think this one was more cliffhangery than the last few.
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1437237232012722184
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VYb3B1ETlk
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Extremely excited for Rogers: The Musical
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Kate's costume looks pretty good. So far I've enjoyed Marvel TV, so I expect this one to be good too. Granted I've always been higher on MCU Hawkeye than most.
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Oh for a sec I was scared it was going to be very self-serious, and then the second half happened.
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So much Fraction DNA in that trailer, hot drat.
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I'm into it, and I never had any hate for Hawkeye. I think he has my favorite moment/line in AoU (I know that's not saying much) and up there in the top ten for favorite bit across the movies. I'm curious as to the plot reasons that keep him in NYC though. MCU Clint was definitely happy on the farm with Laura. Is Cardellini even slated to show up in this at any point?
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Is Renner a domestic abuser or was that someone else(or was he exonerated)?
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He did some unhinged poo poo, I don't think it crossed over into actual battery
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I mean Mark Rufallo was (is?) a 9/11 truther, and he's still around.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Is Renner a domestic abuser or was that someone else(or was he exonerated)? There doesn't seem to have been anything new since the accusations came to light in 2019.
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Hawkeye has more personality in this trailer than all of the movies combined. Too bad Renner sucks and will probably die/retire. Liking the dynamic between the 2 of them.
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hatelull posted:I'm into it, and I never had any hate for Hawkeye. I think he has my favorite moment/line in AoU (I know that's not saying much) and up there in the top ten for favorite bit across the movies. I'm curious as to the plot reasons that keep him in NYC though. MCU Clint was definitely happy on the farm with Laura. Is Cardellini even slated to show up in this at any point? I thought the trailer spelled it out well enough. Clint is probably treating his kids to a pre-Christmas trip to New York or something, and then has to send them away while he figures out who is running around in the Ronin suit. poo poo escalates from there.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I mean Mark Rufallo was (is?) a 9/11 truther, and he's still around. Yeah it would be a shame if the USA government told the truth about 9/11! Mark can be a shitlib but he is generally good. Also he shut up about 9/11 after his brother was executed/murdered. Real weird!
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