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Arc Hammer posted:Voted today. Got that poo poo over with as soon as I could. This post reminded me that my advanced polling station was the exact same as my normal one so I just went. There was a lady asking if the election could be stolen and a nice man calmly explaining to her that there are triple checks and redundancies. Calgary sucks.
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Sep 11, 2021 19:26
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Guess I can give a report back about voting yesterday. Went around 9:30 am-ish. Was about 15 people in a line which was more than I was expecting. All 50 +. All wearing masks. Was a bit disorganized inside as I guess everyone had the same letter beginning their surname so we all had to go to the same booth even though there were four booths set up. Allowed for a maximum of four voters plus about 6 staff. Was in a smallish church hall. I voted. Didn't keep the pencil.
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Sep 11, 2021 19:34
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Wish I could vote for the NDP, unfortunately Singh is a racist
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Sep 11, 2021 19:35
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Another Bill posted:The Ontario Liberals went on the attack against the NDP at the end of the last provincial election when it became clear they wouldn't beat the Conservatives. It always boils down to.. 
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Sep 11, 2021 19:43
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apatheticman posted:This post reminded me that my advanced polling station was the exact same as my normal one so I just went. Poodlebear posted:Wish I could vote for the NDP, unfortunately Singh is a racist
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Sep 11, 2021 19:48
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Another Bill posted:The Ontario Liberals went on the attack against the NDP at the end of the last provincial election when it became clear they wouldn't beat the Conservatives. That's standard operating procedure for the liberals to win more seats. It has nothing to do with forming coalition governments.
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Sep 11, 2021 19:49
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RBC posted:This makes no sense at all. None of the parties we currently have are going to ever want a coalition with one another because between Libs, Cons and the NDP as a distant third party everyone will want their chance to take power for themselves and gently caress the rest. Smaller parties that aren't super voting blocs like the Liberals and Conservatives could theoretically be more open to working together but as long as we've got two major parties and the NDP/Bloc consolation prize runners up coalitions would be off the table.
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Sep 11, 2021 19:59
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BGrifter posted:It always boils down to.. Seriously. It’s been a problem since the French Revolution. The centrists and “liberals” will always punch left harder than right. During the Paris Commune they made sure to kill as many communards as possible even though the commune initially banned the death penalty. When socialists try to play nice the centre brutalizes them. .
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Sep 11, 2021 20:06
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Poodlebear posted:Wish I could vote for the NDP, unfortunately Singh is a racist this is a good bit.
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Sep 11, 2021 20:12
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Just did advance voting to skip the lines on election day and I was clearly the only voter who'd been there within half an hour (since you had to sign in with name and time) - the scrutineers looked bored as all get out so I assume it wasn't exactly a hotbed of activity the rest of the time. My riding always goes Liberal anyway so it was a rather pointless endeavour but here's one vote for the NDP I guess.
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Sep 11, 2021 20:14
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My MP is Terry Beech and I have this fantasy where he's giving a TV interview and I ride past on my bike and yell "MORE LIKE TERRY BITCH".
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Sep 11, 2021 20:21
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ZShakespeare posted:My MP is Terry Beech and I have this fantasy where he's giving a TV interview and I ride past on my bike and yell "MORE LIKE TERRY BITCH". “gently caress HIM RIGHT IN THE BEECH” more like it
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Sep 11, 2021 20:24
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Arc Hammer posted:None of the parties we currently have are going to ever want a coalition with one another because between Libs, Cons and the NDP as a distant third party everyone will want their chance to take power for themselves and gently caress the rest. Smaller parties that aren't super voting blocs like the Liberals and Conservatives could theoretically be more open to working together but as long as we've got two major parties and the NDP/Bloc consolation prize runners up coalitions would be off the table. Liberals are somewhat open to working with Conservatives, but only if the alternative is the NDP having power As long as their class interests aren't threatened(and the ndp barely even threatens them, but it's still enough to get all hands on deck) it's everyone for themselves though yeah
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Sep 11, 2021 20:25
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ZShakespeare posted:My MP is Terry Beech and I have this fantasy where he's giving a TV interview and I ride past on my bike and yell "MORE LIKE TERRY BITCH". MORE LIKE TERRY BIRCH BECAUSE HES THIN SKINNED
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Sep 11, 2021 21:11
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Arc Hammer posted:None of the parties we currently have are going to ever want a coalition with one another because between Libs, Cons and the NDP as a distant third party everyone will want their chance to take power for themselves and gently caress the rest. Smaller parties that aren't super voting blocs like the Liberals and Conservatives could theoretically be more open to working together but as long as we've got two major parties and the NDP/Bloc consolation prize runners up coalitions would be off the table. You're wrong. If the conservatives win a minority of seats but the liberals and ndp can form a majority, there will be a liberal ndp coalition government. Trudeau will do it because it means he gets to stay prime minister. NDP will do it because they get more power than with a conservative minority. This is the current trajectory based on the polls.
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Sep 11, 2021 21:37
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the talent deficit fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Sep 11, 2021 |
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Sep 11, 2021 21:43
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Generation Internet fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2021 21:44
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I just realized the BQ really really loving wants to get rid of the monarchy LOL
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Sep 11, 2021 22:00
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RBC posted:You're wrong. Unless they pull an Ontario Liberals and wait for a conservative government to turn toxic and then play the "miss us yet?" card.
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Sep 11, 2021 22:18
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RBC posted:You're wrong. Hell no they wouldn't do that. The Liberals would continue to govern as a Minority government, likely depending on NDP backing, but there's zero chance they'd bring them the NDP to a formal coalition.
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Sep 11, 2021 22:18
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Typo posted:I just realized the BQ really really loving wants to get rid of the monarchy LOL Ironic then that their party logo looks like a coronation crown and carries the unsubtle message with it of "WE'RE THE SOVEREIGNTY PARTY".
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Sep 11, 2021 22:25
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https://youtu.be/RaVCJS1rG3w I've never heard such an earnest cry for help from a reporter. I love how his wrangler immediately tries to skip it before he gives a non-answer.
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Sep 11, 2021 22:38
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Powershift posted:https://youtu.be/RaVCJS1rG3w "People are dying!" "And I appreciate that. It's good feedback." Alberta is hosed 
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Sep 11, 2021 22:41
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Generation Internet posted:Vic Sahai in my riding seems like a good enough guy that I'm daring to hope he can squeak past empty-suit Liberal candidate. At least on my street there's more orange signs than anything else which makes me feel nice. I didn't even know the con guy had signs until I saw my first one yesterday. Yes, I voted for Vic as the least bad candidate. Gerretsen is entrenched forever I think though, this riding picks someone and keeps picking them until they retire or die (see Peter Miliken) and Gerretsen is kind of a legacy because his dad was also mayor for forever. He was a much better mayopr than the current mayor who is sort of arm's-length dancing with the literal cult he "used to" belong to.
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Sep 11, 2021 22:54
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PittTheElder posted:Hell no they wouldn't do that. The Liberals would continue to govern as a Minority government, likely depending on NDP backing, but there's zero chance they'd bring them the NDP to a formal coalition. Why would the NDP agree to support them without a formal coalition? They would have Trudeau by the balls and wouldn't need to trigger an election. Without their support the conservatives form a government and they don't have the baggage of forcing an election.
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Sep 11, 2021 23:36
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Gonna be lol if Shachi Kurl's debate question to Blanchet, which has whipped up the Quebec media into wrapping themselves in the Quebec Flag and writing a bunch of nationalist garbage, results in a BQ surge and some dumb chaos outcome like the Libs losing.
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Sep 12, 2021 01:48
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Femtosecond posted:Gonna be lol if Shachi Kurl's debate question to Blanchet, which has whipped up the Quebec media into wrapping themselves in the Quebec Flag and writing a bunch of nationalist garbage, results in a BQ surge and some dumb chaos outcome like the Libs losing. The vaccine mandates have apparently lead to a (possibly imaginary) surge in PPC support at the expense of the Bloc and Conservatives because all the crazies have realized they can also be openly racist with Bernier when they had to pretend not to be under O’Toole and Blanchet. So yeah, we’ve transitioned out of the Orange Mirage phase of the election to the Anarchy Rules phase exactly on schedule.
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Sep 12, 2021 02:57
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Hand Knit posted:(Jean still shouldn’t have allowed the proroguement.) On what basis? The prime minister has always had significant leeway to advise the governor general, and even in granting the prorogation, she required there to be a confidence vote pretty quickly after Parliament resumed. RBC posted:If the conservatives win a minority of seats but the liberals and ndp can form a majority, there will be a liberal ndp coalition government. Trudeau will do it because it means he gets to stay prime minister. NDP will do it because they get more power than with a conservative minority. The upside to this specific outcome is that in this scenario, the Conservatives could get the most votes and the most seats, but absolutely no power, and the reaction from Tory voters, and others who have no clue about how this country actually works, would be  to watch.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:05
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tagesschau posted:The upside to this specific outcome is that in this scenario, the Conservatives could get the most votes and the most seats, but absolutely no power, and the reaction from Tory voters, and others who have no clue about how this country actually works, would be The absolute meltdowns as people who essentially believe we're America discover the exciting possibilities of our parliamentary system.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:18
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nine-gear crow posted:"People are dying!" canadian government.txt linoleum floors posted:That's standard operating procedure for the liberals to win more seats. It has nothing to do with forming coalition governments. It very accurately shows where the Liberals' priorities lie. If it comes down to it, they'd rather the Conservatives have power than the NDP. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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Sep 12, 2021 03:21
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linoleum floors posted:Why would the NDP agree to support them without a formal coalition? They would have Trudeau by the balls and wouldn't need to trigger an election. Without their support the conservatives form a government and they don't have the baggage of forcing an election. Well for all the reasons they aren't in a coalition with the Libs right now. They don't need a formal coalition agreement to not trigger an election, they just need a GG who isn't an idiot.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:26
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"Fight against vaccine passports." https://twitter.com/wingkarli/status/1436701329355788300?s=19
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Sep 12, 2021 03:55
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It's impressive that no one hates Albertans more than their own government.
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Sep 12, 2021 04:07
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How are they fighting against something that is entirely in their jurisdiction and control?
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Sep 12, 2021 04:33
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Well those pesky voters keep fighting us
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Sep 12, 2021 06:15
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Poodlebear posted:Wish I could vote for the NDP, unfortunately Singh is a racist You must work at the Indian embassy.
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Sep 12, 2021 07:23
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tagesschau posted:On what basis? The prime minister has always had significant leeway to advise the governor general, and even in granting the prorogation, she required there to be a confidence vote pretty quickly after Parliament resumed. The unfortunate fact is the Liberals couldn’t keep their own party in check for 6 weeks (or however long it was) making her decision the correct one. That coalition wouldn’t have survived their second vote.
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Sep 12, 2021 08:23
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PittTheElder posted:Well for all the reasons they aren't in a coalition with the Libs right now. No they don't, but the NDP has every reason to force the liberals into it for support. It's a can't lose for them. If the liberals don't want to do it then they let them fall and make them look like idiots, then mop up their votes when the conservative minority government inevitably fails within a short period of time. No party has any reason to campaign On coalition platform in our current system. The two situations are not at all the same. I'm getting exhausted explaining this. Y'all need a basic politics course.
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Sep 12, 2021 12:40
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linoleum floors posted:No they don't, but the NDP has every reason to force the liberals into it for support. It's a can't lose for them. If the liberals don't want to do it then they let them fall and make them look like idiots, then mop up their votes when the conservative minority government inevitably fails within a short period of time. Having a superiority complex about it doesn't make your arguments more convincing you know. Make an actual explanation as to why the current government is not a coalition and why it was not even seriously proposed, and how this election which will probably have very similar results will obviously result in a serious coalition proposal. "It's so obvious and I don't want to explain it to you idiots" is an interesting debate position to take. I'm not convinced that the Liberals would actually be all that damaged by rejecting a coalition, I'm sure they'd find some way to spin it as the NDP forcing a Conservative minority and wow, aren't they so bad for handing the government to them? EDIT: Lmao wait, I see by your avatar text that this is not your first rodeo.
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Sep 12, 2021 14:34
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Anyone know if there are faster letter shipping methods from the US to Canada than USPS that don't also cost $20+ (a somewhat higher value than I'd place on my individual vote)? Elections Canada won't accept ballots received after election day no matter when they're postmarked (this seems ridiculous but here we are). "First class" USPS letter mail takes anywhere from 3 to ?15? business days and I was not wise enough to mail my ballot as soon as I got it.
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Sep 12, 2021 14:45
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