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twistedmentat posted:It's like cap saying he's going to give someone some straight dick. he says that to bucky all the time tho
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Veotax posted:Not quite on topic for this thread, but since it came up: is there a date for Andor yet? They were shooting that a while ago, weren't they? I assume it's next year sometime. Not as far as I can tell. None of the upcoming Star Wars shows, except Visions which is in like nine days, has a confirmed release date. Even Book of Boba Fett is still listed as just "December".
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Gavok posted:While he was inspired by the Ultimate version, I don't feel that MCU Hawkeye is purely serious. Through the movies, up until Endgame, his arc appears to be that he's a serious professional who is gradually accepting how utterly bonkers his world is becoming. Yeah, I've never read the comic and I don't know what "Hawkguy" means but I don't interpret MCU Clint as self serious. Yeah, he's a SHIELD super spy but he's also kind of a doofy dad. That's with his relationship with Nat, his interactions with Quicksilver and Wanda, is overall "what am I doing here?" vibe. Its not hugely developed because obviously he's never been hugely developed but its plainly established at least from Age of Ultron.
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Matt Fraction’s son used to mispronounce Hawkeye as Hawkguy, so Matt turned that conversation into an exchange between Hawkeye and one of his neighbors. 
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In his very first appearance MCU Hawkguy makes a joke about rooting for Thor when he was antagonizing SHIELD. One of his only non-mindcontrolled lines in Avengers was "You and I remember Budapest very differently" and then there is all of AoU. He was a quippy in over his head guy all the way up until his family dusted and he got angsty (which is something his comics counterpart has always been to some degree). You don't have to like MCU Hawkguy or even think he's interesting enough to carry his own show but he has more Fraction potential than Back-from-the-dead-New-Avengers-Ronin Hawkeye ever did.
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Variety is reporting that HBO Max is in early development of another TV spin off to The Batman, this one focused on the Penguin, although they haven't got a deal with Colin Farrell yet.
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Sep 14, 2021 02:13
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X-O posted:I think Hawkguy was kind of out nowhere myself. Clint was never really portrayed like that until that series. It was shortly after Wanda brought him back to life wasn't it? I don't remember him doing much between coming back the Fraction series starting.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It was shortly after Wanda brought him back to life wasn't it? I don't remember him doing much between coming back the Fraction series starting. He was basically the leader of the New Avengers during Dark Reign. The Hawkguy stuff was out of nowhere because Clint was never really that much of a fuckup, he's lead the Avengers a few times, rehabbed the Thunderbolts etc. He was usually held up as a main Avenger, not a clown.
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Fraction's run does this interesting thing of picking up a lot of deep hits from Hawkeye's past [Making him deaf again was a pretty deep cut. Did you know Hawkeye was deaf for a long rear end time? Sign language in a comic book was neat for a lot of folks.] and also just making up this entirely new character out of nowhere.
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muscles like this! posted:Variety is reporting that HBO Max is in early development of another TV spin off to The Batman, this one focused on the Penguin, although they haven't got a deal with Colin Farrell yet. Is it weird that I am deeply sick of every attempt to turn Penguin into like an edgy, skinny criminal weirdo instead of a smug bird-obsessed criminal weirdo with gimmick umbrellas, with proportions that suggest a water fowl? I'm only just realizing how often the formula for making Batman villains "modern" and "relevant" is to turn them into villains from bad genre TV. I'd make a joke about a Batman version of Smallville, but I think there's been like three of those already with the only real distinction being none of them centered around teen Bruce
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I sort of agree, but man the Gotham Penguin was fantastic.
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Rhyno posted:He was basically the leader of the New Avengers during Dark Reign. The Hawkguy stuff was out of nowhere because Clint was never really that much of a fuckup, he's lead the Avengers a few times, rehabbed the Thunderbolts etc. He was usually held up as a main Avenger, not a clown. Also the weird meta 'Pfft, Hawkeye's a guy who shoots arrows at gods ha ha' was irritating because... Clint knows that. It's how he helps, shooting arrows at things. He is also completely aware that without arrows he's just a guy in funny suit and will tell you so.
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Ok, I don't remember the Fraction run implying he was a professional gently caress up. Like it pretty much focused on his personal life (where he's a gently caress up) and made a couple passing references to the absurdity of being an arrow guy next to an iron dude but I didn't get bumbling idiot part everyone seems to remember. The brief Avengers vignettes seemed to imply it was hard for him to keep up with the rest of the team but I don't remember thinking they changed his level of capability much.
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Dawgstar posted:Also the weird meta 'Pfft, Hawkeye's a guy who shoots arrows at gods ha ha' was irritating because... Clint knows that. It's how he helps, shooting arrows at things. He is also completely aware that without arrows he's just a guy in funny suit and will tell you so. One of my favorite things about Hawkeye from around that time was that while most heroes would look at Deadpool and go, "Ugh, I'm dealing with Wade today. God, I hate that guy," Clint would be completely cool with working alongside him. They had a mutual respect for each other and it was pretty delightful.
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Sep 14, 2021 15:14
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Hawkeye versus Deadpool is such a great book.
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Sgt. Politeness posted:Ok, I don't remember the Fraction run implying he was a professional gently caress up. Like it pretty much focused on his personal life (where he's a gently caress up) and made a couple passing references to the absurdity of being an arrow guy next to an iron dude but I didn't get bumbling idiot part everyone seems to remember. The brief Avengers vignettes seemed to imply it was hard for him to keep up with the rest of the team but I don't remember thinking they changed his level of capability much. Yeah, the Fraction run still has Clint being very good at the hero stuff. It's that he keeps loving up his personal life and alienates everyone around him through bad decisions.
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Sep 14, 2021 17:21
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Hawkeye's characterization for the first like solid decade was him being a dick to Captain America and then a later panel where he's out at a club with two girls thinking "why was I such a HOTHEAD to CAP? even though he's an OLD MAN, I really RESPECT him. also I'm IN LOVE with my COWORKER" so nothing Fraction wrote seemed too far afield really
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Holy gently caress https://deadline.com/2021/09/netflix-orders-grendel-series-dark-horse-comic-abubakr-ali-cast-1234832350/
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Sep 14, 2021 19:06
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Rhyno posted:Holy gently caress I never thought this would get adapted, even though it's a perfect property and character to adapt. Brilliant!
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Grendel as a property almost sells itself. I always thought the reason it never got adapted was Wagner was resistant. And he probably was. I kinda wish it wasn't Netflix as I can't remember the last Netflix show I really enjoyed, but I have hopes because Wagner has kept a tight grip on the rights and it seems that he'd really have to be sold on it to go with it.
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Rhyno posted:Holy gently caress It will suck but fools will watch it for 3 seasons anyway
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Sep 14, 2021 22:00
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Rhyno posted:Holy gently caress Oh poo poo. I only got the first omnibus, but I found it really interesting. I need to pick up the rest at some point.
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muscles like this! posted:Variety is reporting that HBO Max is in early development of another TV spin off to The Batman, this one focused on the Penguin, although they haven't got a deal with Colin Farrell yet. The Penguin is being played by Colin Farrell? That's... different.
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Karma Tornado posted:Hawkeye's characterization for the first like solid decade was him being a dick to Captain America and then a later panel where he's out at a club with two girls thinking "why was I such a HOTHEAD to CAP? even though he's an OLD MAN, I really RESPECT him. also I'm IN LOVE with my COWORKER" so nothing Fraction wrote seemed too far afield really The best Hawkeye was of course in the 90s Iron Man cartoon where he was an idiot who tried to stop an out of control Iron Man with a magnet arrow and got owned because of course and also had his spine broken
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Skwirl posted:Hawkeye versus Deadpool is such a great book. I was thinking that after Deadpool is introduced into the MCU they can do that. They could even add in that AplusX story where Wade and Clint go after the pirates and get the horn of summoning and Wade uses hulk hand arrows that explode.
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lol you just know Michael went out of his way to get them to include the Gundam
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Sep 15, 2021 17:35
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What if... Killmonger picked his fights a little more carefully?
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OnimaruXLR posted:What if... Killmonger picked his fights a little more carefully? A nice detail is that it's established he got the intel on the convoy attack, and rather than just pass it up the chain to warn the convoy he decided to show up and handle things personally, showing he's already working an angle.
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They definitely need to follow this last episode up, cause it just ends so abruptly.
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Was a very meh episode
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This was the first one I was pretty "meh" on. It had it's moments, but easily the weakest of the series for me.
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JT Smiley posted:They definitely need to follow this last episode up, cause it just ends so abruptly. Yeah, I liked it up until the end where it just doesn't have a conclusion.
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It may not have been a groundbreaking episode but I'm still happy to see more Klaw
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I think the most amazing thing about this show so far is that every time they have Tony Stark in an episode, they kill him off. Really good What If...? energy with that and I hope it continues through at least the season.
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site posted:lol you just know Michael went out of his way to get them to include the Gundam That's like the least surprising thing I've ever read. It would be like if i was me and said "please give me a gun that looks like a Space Marine from Warhammer 40k's Bolter"
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muscles like this! posted:Yeah, I liked it up until the end where it just doesn't have a conclusion. It should have been What if Kilmonger used Stark Tech to conquer America instead of What if Kilmonger became Black Panther but semi legitimately. Like his plan in Black Panther is to use Wakandan technology to "free his people" (conquer the world?) so this episode isn't really any different where as if he used Tony as a shortcut and stuck around long enough for Mysterio drones we could have seen him take over America first but I guess Disney doesn't want to depict any kind of racial uprising
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As happy as I was to hear Boseman, the "You can't keep power you didn't earn" speech rings a little hollow since N'Jadaka has like a doctorate, a bunch of military medals, designed a gundam, uncovered the intel on Stane, and then carefully used that to ingratiate himself into Wakandan leadership. T'Challa may not like his methods, but it's weird to hear anyone claim he isn't putting in the work.
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theironjef posted:As happy as I was to hear Boseman, the "You can't keep power you didn't earn" speech rings a little hollow since N'Jadaka has like a doctorate, a bunch of military medals, designed a gundam, uncovered the intel on Stane, and then carefully used that to ingratiate himself into Wakandan leadership. T'Challa may not like his methods, but it's weird to hear anyone claim he isn't putting in the work. Also what did T'Challa do to earn his power?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Also what did T'Challa do to earn his power? T'Challa was born a crown prince in a hereditary monarchy. Only a select few get to do that. I'd like to see you try!
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Sgt. Politeness posted:It should have been What if Kilmonger used Stark Tech to conquer America instead of What if Kilmonger became Black Panther but semi legitimately. In Black Panther, that's mostly a lie to garner support. As soon as he actually gets power his goal is conquest and death. That's what that whole throne scene is about but everyone forgets anything but the cool camera rotation.
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