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And a decent one at that!
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We'll see how long it takes before they start rowing back on it.
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Sep 14, 2021 10:45
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Bringing back Owen Smith's one hour contracts.
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Sep 14, 2021 10:54
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Pistol_Pete posted:We'll see how long it takes before they start rowing back on it. They'd have to get elected with a clear majority to actually do it. It can just be traded away in coalition or (more likely) live on the to-do list forever
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Sep 14, 2021 10:56
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coulbd you spare just two pounds a mubnth fow wut ugg reliuf your two pounds could pruvude two uhsda whupps suction sucks of wut uggs - unuf tuh kuhp one parluhmuntry frunt bunch Luhbuh MP fed for an uvening 
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Sep 14, 2021 11:03
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Failed Imagineer posted:Dishi Rishi has made a powerful enemy in the Irish people today Only the DUP and their followers believed in that bridge/tunnel/Stargate to Scotland.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:12
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Just Another Lurker posted:Only the DUP and their followers believed in that bridge/tunnel/Stargate to Scotland. I mean since its basically impossible from an engineering perspective, I think even the DUPers only believed in it to the extent that they were incredibly naive, or else thought they could personally profit/show their ingroup affiliations/stick it to Them 'Uns.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:15
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CHEVRAWN FOAR INCOADED SO IT IS 
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Sep 14, 2021 11:28
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The DUP has been clear and will always be clear, £1.1bn sounds like a lot of money, but it is nowhere near as much as £20bn.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:29
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Failed Imagineer posted:I mean since its basically impossible from an engineering perspective, I think even the DUPers only believed in it to the extent that they were incredibly naive, or else thought they could personally profit/show their ingroup affiliations/stick it to Them 'Uns. For the higher ups i'm going with profit and grinding Them 'Uns when they can do so. Might be possible engineering wise but it would be of the upmost folly to do it, it would make the Burj Khalifa and Ryugyong Hotel look positively sane.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:31
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Just build thousands of ferries and connect them together into a bridge.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:37
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Comrade Fakename posted:I had a bit of this feeling when I watched Detective Pikachu on a bored evening and found that the fantastical and slightly cyberpunk Ryme City was incredibly obviously, and a bit hilariously, Just London. Extra funny since the next Pokemon region was obviously Britain, though London is apparently in Scotland now
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Sep 14, 2021 11:42
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Just use one of these but with a 238 KM long chain.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:47
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crispix posted:CHEVRAWN FOAR INCOADED SO IT IS I would like to see more of Captain Samantha Campbell
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Sep 14, 2021 11:51
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Just Another Lurker posted:For the higher ups i'm going with profit and grinding Them 'Uns when they can do so. Yeah it's eminently doable from an engineering perspective, even the bit where it was going to be a road tunnel instead of a rail tunnel, it would just be like 4 times more expensive than the Channel Tunnel (well 8 times because the Irish sure as poo poo wouldn't stump up half of it like the French did for the Channel Tunnel), for something that would have a tenth the traffic at best.
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Sep 14, 2021 12:11
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sinky posted:One weird trick for avoiding legal action, lawyers hate this So reading that link (and this article that goes into some additional hilarious details about how the Doorman basically said “you’re not getting in and we’re not bringing those papers up to his Lordship”) they seem to be trading on a “you can’t sue Prince Andrew, because you signed an agreement to take money from him in exchange for never talking about all the sex crimes he did.” Like I understand that it is potentially a legal defence to the Civil Action, but done in such a way that makes him look 100% guilty in the eyes of the court of popular opinion. Prince Andrew’s lawyer says documents will absolve him of liability in sex assault case https://jrnl.ie/5548535
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Sep 14, 2021 12:16
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Get the trebuchet
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Sep 14, 2021 12:21
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HOLY gently caress!  Is that actually a, a... commitment?  I'll believe it when I see it, obviously. Which will not be before 2027 at the earliest because even with every supermarket shelf empty, I honestly (despairingly) believe that Boris Johnson could tour the country and personally take a poo poo on the doorstep of each Tory voter before punching their dog/cat/horse, and still not lose the next election to Starmer.
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Sep 14, 2021 12:30
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Starmer will 100% ditch it if he ever got close to power.
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Sep 14, 2021 12:32
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there's gonna be like 5 asterisks to each part of that policy BAN ZERO HOURS CONTRACTS***** *but only for over 25s *but only for UK citizens *but not if you've been unemployed for more than 12 months *but your employer can unilaterally put you onto zero hours any time during your probation *but supermarkets are exempt
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Sep 14, 2021 12:41
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I feel like the true Labour thing would be to follow through on banning them but do absolutely nothing to prevent the introduction of like, one-minute-per-week contracts.
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Sep 14, 2021 12:46
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Means-tested opt-outs of zero-hours contracts
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Sep 14, 2021 12:57
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peanut- posted:I feel like the true Labour thing would be to follow through on banning them but do absolutely nothing to prevent the introduction of like, one-minute-per-week contracts. They'd word the law in such a way that it banned flextime/job sharing/childcare leave but also leave the call-on completely legal - my money's on the temp worker exception loads of companies area already using to get round sick pay etc.
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Sep 14, 2021 13:02
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Just Another Lurker posted:Only the DUP and their followers believed in that bridge/tunnel/Stargate to Scotland. I believe in the bridge from Kintyre being the only way there will be investment on west coast roads like the Rest and Be Thankful so they aren't closed for tens of days a year
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Sep 14, 2021 13:37
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Just build thousands of ferries and connect them together into a bridge. put rubber rings around retired train carriages
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Sep 14, 2021 13:37
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it's what they would have wanted
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Sep 14, 2021 13:38
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Build the bridge and then immediately unify Ireland and make Scotland independent.
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Sep 14, 2021 13:40
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forkboy84 posted:I believe in the bridge from Kintyre being the only way there will be investment on west coast roads like the Rest and Be Thankful so they aren't closed for tens of days a year Rest and Be Thankful must be the single most invested-in road in Britain.
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Sep 14, 2021 13:42
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The Question IRL posted:Like I understand that it is potentially a legal defence to the Civil Action, but done in such a way that makes him look 100% guilty in the eyes of the court of popular opinion. There's also the fact that literally everyone already knows he's a nonce so it's not like this changes anyone's mind anyway. "Comments disabled for legal reasons" lol.
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Sep 14, 2021 13:48
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It's a shame he's not the eldest, King Nonce would be the best chance of a republic in centuries.
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Sep 14, 2021 13:53
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I still don't trust starmer not to just end up getting me fired rather than actually improving my job security.
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Sep 14, 2021 14:01
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If Boris wants to win union points by spunking billions on tunnels/bridges he should start by investing in some infrastructure to improve transport links to and within the Western Isles/Orkney. Also broadband.
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Sep 14, 2021 14:02
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We have been in negotiations to do that, but it turns out that the Western Isles and Jersey and Orkney and the other one aren't even in the UK, wif waf!
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Skull Servant posted:Build the bridge and then immediately unify Ireland and make Scotland independent. Real Dál Riada hours, who's up?
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Sep 14, 2021 14:21
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Always confused me a bit when people make jokes about 1-hour contracts when the idea of banning zero-hour ones is floated. Like, yes, a one-hour contract is significantly better than a zero hour one because at least you can count on a specific number of hours worth of wages on a week to week basis, and knowing you have a one-hour contract frees you up to find other work whereas a zero-hour contract is entirely based around "You better be available when we need you, and also we might not need you at all" leaving you in some kind of wage limbo never knowing if you'll get enough money to pay rent and eat, but simultaneously not being able to pick up other part time work to fill the gap. Just seems a bit disingenuous really. That said, I don't expect Kier to put out anything resembling a progressive policy so as others have said this will be full of asterisks and means-testing or something, assuming he even gets anywhere near power before his career is over anyway.
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Surprise T Rex posted:Always confused me a bit when people make jokes about 1-hour contracts when the idea of banning zero-hour ones is floated. Like, yes, a one-hour contract is significantly better than a zero hour one because at least you can count on a specific number of hours worth of wages on a week to week basis, and knowing you have a one-hour contract frees you up to find other work whereas a zero-hour contract is entirely based around "You better be available when we need you, and also we might not need you at all" leaving you in some kind of wage limbo never knowing if you'll get enough money to pay rent and eat, but simultaneously not being able to pick up other part time work to fill the gap. The gag is that 1 hour contracts will just be exactly like zero hour contracts but instead of a minimum of 0 hours it'll be a minimum of 1 hour a week, which isn't actually any difference.
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Surprise T Rex posted:Always confused me a bit when people make jokes about 1-hour contracts when the idea of banning zero-hour ones is floated. Like, yes, a one-hour contract is significantly better than a zero hour one because at least you can count on a specific number of hours worth of wages on a week to week basis, and knowing you have a one-hour contract frees you up to find other work whereas a zero-hour contract is entirely based around "You better be available when we need you, and also we might not need you at all" leaving you in some kind of wage limbo never knowing if you'll get enough money to pay rent and eat, but simultaneously not being able to pick up other part time work to fill the gap. We're all assuming it'll just be a one hour minimum guarantee contract, but also you have to be on call and if you don't show up we can fire you type thing, just like the current zero hour ones are. efb
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Surprise T Rex posted:a one-hour contract is significantly better than a zero hour one because at least you can count on a specific number of hours worth of wages on a week to week basis yes that whole one guaranteed hour of work is really going to pay for a whole load of stuff efb twice there will be literally no difference except the number 0 will be crossed out and replaced with a 1
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Sep 14, 2021 14:44
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Like, gig economy work is genuinely better than retail at this point not because the gig economy is good but because retail is that bad in every possible aspect
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Like, gig economy work is genuinely better than retail at this point not because the gig economy is good but because retail is that bad in every possible aspect Unions should demand weekly wage payments for everyone in retail at this point.
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