Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

ekuNNN posted:

i bet the KPD are still around
no kidding, they were nearly banned from running and nearly lost their status as party

https://twitter.com/partei_dkp/status/1420621145456451586

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



The Swedish Prime Minister and leader of the Social Democrat Party, Stefan Löfven announced today that they will step down from both positions in the fall ahead of the 2022 election.

At least 14 668 people have died to Covid in Sweden so far.

Covid deaths per 100,000 population
Sweden: 142.61
Denmark: 44.08
Finland: 18.33
Norway: 15.16

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






but at least Swedish liberalism is saved

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

ted hitler hunter posted:

The Swedish Prime Minister and leader of the Social Democrat Party, Stefan Löfven announced today that they will step down from both positions in the fall ahead of the 2022 election.

At least 14 668 people have died to Covid in Sweden so far.

Covid deaths per 100,000 population
Sweden: 142.61
Denmark: 44.08
Finland: 18.33
Norway: 15.16
I'm sorry, but this obscures the fact that Swedes are culturally accustomed to snogging their co-workers, while everyone else in the Nordic Countries are habitually scared of human contact and will stab you if you get within ten feet.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I'm sorry, but this obscures the fact that Swedes are culturally accustomed to snogging their co-workers, while everyone else in the Nordic Countries are habitually scared of human contact and will stab you if you get within ten feet.

do y'all have employee fuckrooms? in the states we have to go into the industrial freezers

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

i say swears online posted:

do y'all have employee fuckrooms? in the states we have to go into the industrial freezers
No, I’m part of the stabbing nations. But that was an actual argument from Swedish thought leaders last year.

If we did, they wouldn’t be separate rooms though.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


What's the difference between Lega and Brothers of Italy?

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





iirc Lega are the diet fascists, the UKIP types, and Brothers Of Italy are the straight-up fascists

Italy's hosed

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Yeah...the Brother's of Italy are pretty much the direct successors of Mussolini. Congratulations!

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

ted hitler hunter posted:

The Swedish Prime Minister and leader of the Social Democrat Party, Stefan Löfven announced today that they will step down from both positions in the fall ahead of the 2022 election.

At least 14 668 people have died to Covid in Sweden so far.

Covid deaths per 100,000 population
Sweden: 142.61
Denmark: 44.08
Finland: 18.33
Norway: 15.16

What's wrong with your politicians? Don't they know that consequences for their actions and taking responsibility are 20th century concepts and you can just continue angrily denying that your incompetence has caused lots of deaths and accuse those who point that out of lacking all decency?

#justRuttethings

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/AramKrdstn/status/1429871527093276675

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

even the germans submit to the superiority of czech beer (that is a can of budvar)

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Was there a time when Macron lectured an African woman on how grateful she should be that there are/were French troops in her country?

I remember something like that happening but I can’t find a news article

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

probably from the events in Mali ~3 years ago

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



there are probably like 50 times that happened

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

spankmeister posted:

but at least Swedish liberalism is saved

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I'm sorry, but this obscures the fact that Swedes are culturally accustomed to snogging their co-workers, while everyone else in the Nordic Countries are habitually scared of human contact and will stab you if you get within ten feet.

They deliberately let COVID-19 run rampant in old people's homes so they'd die and stop being a financial burden. Dunno if they also deliberately tried to kill off foreign-language-speaking communities or if that was just incompetence. Everyone else who died was collateral damage.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Red and Black posted:

Was there a time when Macron lectured an African woman on how grateful she should be that there are/were French troops in her country?

I remember something like that happening but I can’t find a news article

Probably went something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=102vFxWl-Ls

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

3D Megadoodoo posted:

They deliberately let COVID-19 run rampant in old people's homes so they'd die and stop being a financial burden. Dunno if they also deliberately tried to kill off foreign-language-speaking communities or if that was just incompetence. Everyone else who died was collateral damage.
I'm sorry, but this is just plain false. The official story is that Swedes are just culturally predisposed to unhygienic/pro-pandemic behavior, and if you don't believe that you're a conspiracy theorist.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I'm sorry, but this is just plain false. The official story is that Swedes are just culturally predisposed to unhygienic/pro-pandemic behavior, and if you don't believe that you're a conspiracy theorist.

You have convinced me I now believe in the Filthy Swede theory of medicine.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

swordid

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/kniggem/status/1437535652241887232?s=19

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



rofl

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012


Seems like school indeed failed him, that's not a laughing matter.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...



lol it's like how in the US there's those freaks who go on about the classics are culturally superior but probably couldn't even identify the moonlit sonata if it was played. it's bad enough to be reactionary and to use the classics as a cultural cudgel, but to be illiterate in them too? what a world

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Mr. Lobe posted:

lol it's like how in the US there's those freaks who go on about the classics are culturally superior but probably couldn't even identify the moonlit sonata if it was played. it's bad enough to be reactionary and to use the classics as a cultural cudgel, but to be illiterate in them too? what a world
It’s Moonlight Sonata, you pleb. Pretty obvious that you have no love for the gaming classics.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


A Buttery Pastry posted:

It’s Moonlight Sonata, you pleb. Pretty obvious that you have no love for the gaming classics.

Hey, I never pretended I wasn't a philistine

Guy P. McMan
Sep 29, 2011
Oven Wrangler
Norway has won the election!


double nine
Aug 8, 2013

erm, who are the good lefties in that election?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Congratulations to President Norway

Guy P. McMan
Sep 29, 2011
Oven Wrangler

double nine posted:

erm, who are the good lefties in that election?
Disclaimer: i may or may not be full of poo poo on some things:

R, the Red party, is the leftmost party with any presence on stortinget, maoist splinters of the communist party 1000 years ago, i think???? don't know how relevant those roots are to their current politics
SV, the Socialist Leftist party, are probably ok as well.
AP, the Labor party, social democrats, have had the same trajectory as many other labor parties around the world, more right wing over the years.
AP wants to lead a coalition with SV and SP, they got their wish and do not strictly need R or MDG for anything. Kind of bad but better than another right wing government.
Speaking of: SP is a weird anti-centralization party (formerly farmers party) that's popular in more rural regions, economically more right wing than AP.
MDG, the Environmentalist party: the Greens (yes, that's their full name), supposedly "leftist", likely liberal, green party, got owned despite gaining seats.

The losers:
KRF, the Christian People's Party, supposedly humanitarian (because Jesus was nice) but hate communists and therefore will never work with social democrats, also socially regressive, got owned.
V, Left, second oldest party?, originally for rich people, intellectuals, proletarians etc. who are against the nobility and even richer people. you may notice this makes no sense anymore and they have been in a constant identity crisis for a long time. Nowadays they're liberals who want to legalize (and probably privatize) drugs, they are apparently also the environmentalist choice on the right. They did not get owned despite making no sense and appealing to nobody.
H, Right, conservatives, ruled the country for the past eight years with FRP, KRF and V, suck rear end.
FRP, "progress party" (literally "forward step party"), suck, terrible, no good, bad. Wonderful combination of right wing economics with regressive social politics, racism and the occasional populism about roads and toll roads. the party may or may not have taken money from the South African government in the 80s to say "apartheid is good". their former leader had a bust of reagan in her office and was a fan of ayn rand and thatcher. a truly inter nationalist party.

Finally PF is a tiny single issue party that got one seat in Finnmark? something about a local hospital???

Important note:
Getting more than 4% of the popular vote means your party is entitled to extra seats not tied to any particular geographic region. I guess to avoid an insane scenario where 20% of the country supports a party but they aren't concentrated enough to win anywhere. This is why R (good!) and V (bad) have so many more seats than MDG and KRF despite a small difference in %. don't think KRF has been below 4% in a long time and R is above 4% for the first time ever.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Guy P. McMan posted:

Norway has won the election!




no Oppslutshaming allowed

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



genericnick posted:

no Oppslutshaming allowed

except against right wing oppslut

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

What are some good books to read on modern politics in Western European states? I know like, next to nothing about countries like France, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Jesus wept, the cumbre vieja eruption .


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58620555

Stay safe, Spanish goons.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

Jesus wept, the cumbre vieja eruption .


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58620555

Stay safe, Spanish goons.
Note: Might trigger a mega-tsunami hitting every North Atlantic coast.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Guy P. McMan posted:

Disclaimer: i may or may not be full of poo poo on some things:

R, the Red party, is the leftmost party with any presence on stortinget, maoist splinters of the communist party 1000 years ago, i think???? don't know how relevant those roots are to their current politics
SV, the Socialist Leftist party, are probably ok as well.
AP, the Labor party, social democrats, have had the same trajectory as many other labor parties around the world, more right wing over the years.
AP wants to lead a coalition with SV and SP, they got their wish and do not strictly need R or MDG for anything. Kind of bad but better than another right wing government.
Speaking of: SP is a weird anti-centralization party (formerly farmers party) that's popular in more rural regions, economically more right wing than AP.
MDG, the Environmentalist party: the Greens (yes, that's their full name), supposedly "leftist", likely liberal, green party, got owned despite gaining seats.

The losers:
KRF, the Christian People's Party, supposedly humanitarian (because Jesus was nice) but hate communists and therefore will never work with social democrats, also socially regressive, got owned.
V, Left, second oldest party?, originally for rich people, intellectuals, proletarians etc. who are against the nobility and even richer people. you may notice this makes no sense anymore and they have been in a constant identity crisis for a long time. Nowadays they're liberals who want to legalize (and probably privatize) drugs, they are apparently also the environmentalist choice on the right. They did not get owned despite making no sense and appealing to nobody.
H, Right, conservatives, ruled the country for the past eight years with FRP, KRF and V, suck rear end.
FRP, "progress party" (literally "forward step party"), suck, terrible, no good, bad. Wonderful combination of right wing economics with regressive social politics, racism and the occasional populism about roads and toll roads. the party may or may not have taken money from the South African government in the 80s to say "apartheid is good". their former leader had a bust of reagan in her office and was a fan of ayn rand and thatcher. a truly inter nationalist party.

Finally PF is a tiny single issue party that got one seat in Finnmark? something about a local hospital???

Important note:
Getting more than 4% of the popular vote means your party is entitled to extra seats not tied to any particular geographic region. I guess to avoid an insane scenario where 20% of the country supports a party but they aren't concentrated enough to win anywhere. This is why R (good!) and V (bad) have so many more seats than MDG and KRF despite a small difference in %. don't think KRF has been below 4% in a long time and R is above 4% for the first time ever.

you have activated my trap card

Rødt is a descendent, as you correctly note, of the AKP-ml and their electoral unity front with the other far-left activist groups (think an amalgam of trotskyites, third-worldists and suchlike, a very LF bunch), Rød Valgallianse, which has stopped self-proletarianising and has put on suits; notable for still having politicians front their ideology rather than think tanks, because they've got no money for think tanks. this makes them by far the most ideologically aggressive, which again is a big part of what pushed them above 4% this time.

SV is a somewhat weird construction of left-wing social-democrats, renegade Soviet-aligned communists from the sixties (i guess they had their kronstadt moment with the prague spring) and intellectual eurocommunists. they were founded in the name of cold war neutrality (i.e. opposition to NATO membership) which they stoppd really caring about with the end of the cold war. they're still nominally anti-NATO and substantially anti-EU, but they got maneuvered into supporting the libya intervention in 2011 and have a tendency to succomb to weird bourgeois idealism

Ap is as you note the labour party, which was formed by a bunch of Very Serious Dudes in the late 19th century and was to my knowledge the only major social-democratic party to actually join the comintern following the october revolution. the moscow theses were not really formed for that sort of party, so they left a few years later, but not until absorbing a fair amount of soviet development theory which would persist until the seventies. they had a sharp neoliberal turn in the late eighties (these trends have historically arrived here about a decade after they strike abroad). they still have extremely close ties to the labour confederation, the single largest organisation in norway by membership and very *heavy* organisation, which somewhat curbs the most keen liberalism, but LO itself has become fairly professionalised over the past decades, stirring ideologically with the recent open challenges to its authority.

MDG are Greens. they are not supposedly leftist. they explicitly disavow being called that and i think we should take them seriously when they do this. basically they're a party for the urban educated class who think that the environment is more important than liberalism at all costs.

Sp is a centrist anti-liberal party. they like agricultural subsidies, decentralisation, lowered land taxes, relaxed building regulations, tariffs and active industrial policy. i am not familiar with a party like this anywhere else in europe, which is probably to their benefit since it means that they can't just steal their misunderstood ideology from elsewhere like most of the rest of them do.

V is the oldest, not second oldest, party in norway. they're not leftist. basically they're a party for the urban educated class who think liberalism at all costs is more important than the environment.

H is the second-oldest party and are basically fans of the British Conservative party, which they wish they could be and constantly salivate after. it's weird and bad.

FrP is, yeah, just an odious party. more libertarian than the alt-right parties have tended to be, weirdly.

PF is a list in Finnmark, based around Southern Finnmark; because of the way the regions are built and because people are very sparsely distributed in Finnmark, a good third of the population of that region has to drive for three to four hours on some rather precarious roads which are often snowed in during winter time in order to make it to a hospital. they're not happy about it, so they elected this random lady to say "hammerfest hospital delenda est" at every parliamentary debate. the efficacy of this manuever is not clear, but i respect the moxie.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


also:
https://twitter.com/AramKrdstn/status/1442143747093958659

https://twitter.com/b9AcE/status/1442123289699110920

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

the kpö in graz has been performing weirdly well for years, but this is both welcome and pretty funny

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

V. Illych L. posted:

the kpö in graz has been performing weirdly well for years, but this is both welcome and pretty funny

From what I've read they've apparently done a lot of unglamorous grassroots work for renters in the city and that's paying off

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Yeah, Switzerland not voting for the regressive option is honestly the bigger surprise between the two.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply